New Questions On Bush Guard Duty [CBS USES FORGERIES TO SMEAR THE PRESIDENT!!!!!]

CBS ^ | 9/10/04 | Staff

[TastyManatees]

New Questions On Bush Guard Duty

CBS) The military records of the two men running for president have become part of the political arsenal in this campaign – a tool for building up, or blowing up, each candidate’s credibility as America's next commander-in-chief.

While Sen. Kerry has been targeted for what he did in Vietnam, President Bush has been criticized for avoiding Vietnam by landing a spot in the Texas Air National Guard - and then failing to meet some of his obligations.

Did then-Lt. Bush fulfill all of his military obligations? And just how did he land that spot in the National Guard in the first place? Correspondent Dan Rather has new information on the president’s military service – and the first-ever interview with the man who says he pulled strings to get young George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard.

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But 60 Minutes has obtained a number of documents we are told were taken from Col. Killian's personal file. Among them, a never-before-seen memorandum from May 1972, where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about "how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November."

Lt. Bush tells his commander "he is working on a campaign in Alabama…. and may not have time to take his physical." Killian adds that he thinks Lt. Bush has gone over his head, and is "talking to someone upstairs."

Col. Killian died in 1984. 60 Minutes consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic.

[bondjamesbond]

Those signature blocks also offer a good look at the difference between a uniformly spaced font, like Courier 10, and a TruType font, like Times New Roman. Look at the serifs on the "I"s in Killian on the actual signature. Those exagerrated serifs are there to make the type look even, when a typeset I would take up less room. Now look at the "m"s in Commander on the actual signature. The lower case "m" was the worst letter in Courier 10. It had to have vestigal serifs, or else it would have looked completely out of place. But with the serifs, there is nowhere near enough room for the double humps. A second generation copy will yield an unreadable lump, which the experienced reader know is a whole mess of "m"s.

[sinkspur]

True, but what would make it proportionate was the amount the carriage moved from letter to letter. I don't know that the Selectric was that sophisticated.

The carriage didn't move on the Selectric; the ball moved.

[Mogollon]

CBS is using blatant forgeries to smear the President, and they are quite confident that you will do nothing about it.

CBS probably figured they can prove 'absence of malice' if they get caught using forgeries to smear President Bush.

[intolerancewillNOTbetolerated]

"Laura Ingraham just announced that Dan Rather is going public about how he is going to work for kerry campaign par time. "

What is that supposed to mean? They're going to start giving him a paycheck? He's been working for them fulltime all along.

[Bogey78O]

I know some word processors can do superscript. I imagine some typewriters can do it as well. Doubt the army would shell out money for a frivilous tool like that. Especially since I still see people today in the military typing out memos on machines that can do it but don't use the function.

[Gator113]

Good job!! I don't think I could have explained my feelings any better than that!

[intolerancewillNOTbetolerated]

"The real objective here is to keep the Swift Boat Vets & their devastating (& unanswerable) charges out of the news."

Every time the Swift Vets come up the Democrat tools say they have been proven liars, and NOBODY CHALLENGES THEM, giving the clear impression that they're right to anyone too busy or lazy to check it out for themselves.

[CaptRon]

Ok, OK, I'm old enough for it still to be referred to as a 'carriage' (just like I sometimes refer to the 'ice box' in the kitchen) but I still don't believe that the system that moved the ball was sophisticated enough to move proportionately relative to which letter was being typed.

[tomahawk]

Hot damn!

[LivingNet]

I don't believe this was ran through a copier 15 times because in the first document you can see right through the black-out. It looks like 5000 Longwood. Unless CBS did the black out at the end.

Also the signatures are not the same person without question. Not even close.

[Sister_T]

Great work, Freepers! Keep it up!

[intolerancewillNOTbetolerated]

"What is exactly damaging in the memos? "

Very little in reality. It's a matter of how big the Democrats can make it appear while acting righteously as if the President picked this fight by questioning sKerry's military record (which, of course, is not the case, but the MSM will help them create that illussion.)

[concerned about politics]

POLL: MSNBC - Does Bush's military service matter to you?

[bootyist-monk]

This needs to be bumped to Rush and Hannity. I would love to see them tear CBS a new one.

[Bogey78O]

It looks like only the Selectric II could do it. It required the person to type every line twice so the typewriter could judge proper spacing. Would a military man have an advanced top of the line typewriter and go through so much?

http://www.ibmcomposer.org/SelComposer/description.htm

[silverleaf]

I'm no handwriting expert bu the signatures sure don't seem to match.

Also, the jargon and terms used do not jibe with military usage- in the Air Force, a first lieutenant is 1Lt (maybe an admin type can confirm this with a look at these memos). And the officer signing paperwork was just programmed to put his rank after his name and his office below, for example:

J. Killian, Col, USAF
Commander

And I really don't think a unit commander would call his squadron an F.I.S. ! (the periods are extraneous)

Not to mention the entire nagging question of why anyone would really think Bush's change of heart about continuing to fly, and request to be absent from the unit for two quarters, was a big deal to Killian? (and another error- the memo writer got it wrong- 1Lt Bush did not ask for leave to work on "his father's" campaign)

ANG officers were all civilians except for 56 hours a year and many requested leave to attend school or for business or personal reason.

NO BIG DEAL. To hius great credit- 1Lt Bush was obviously willing to work out an alternative duty location to FULFILL HIS OBLIGATION TO PULL DRILL TIME. This is NOT AWOL!

Plus between 1970-73, as the war in Vietnam wound down, active duty USAF officers were being RIF'd (involuntarily reduced in force) - I believe the USAF strength was directed to drawn down from 300,000 to 100,000- and many many guys (pilots too) were frantically searching for ANG billets so they could salvage something toward eventual retirement.

Poor Colonel Killian is dead and I believe in my heart something is very wrong here with someone claiming to be releasing his "personal papers". Another vet, voiceless in death, turned into a prop for John Kerry's political ambition?

[AmericanInTokyo]

I did not even read this thread yet, in detail, but just was drawn to the post with the two signatures. Not even knowing what the details are, I would say, two different people signed those signatures. They are different in many regards.

[bondjamesbond]

In 1972, there was no such system. The typefaces were all evenly spaced. I've been doing office work since 1980, and I started out on new machines doing even spaceing back then. TrueType fonts did not come into play until the inkjet typewriters and laser printers were widely available. Certainly not back in 1972.

Remember, you used to be able to set the tab at any of the approximately 100 spaces across the page. To do right justification you would set your Tab at the margin and backspace the number of letters. How are you going to do that with a TrueType font?

[MizSterious]

Attention anyone connected with Conservative 527's: This would be a good time to change the subject by airing a new ad asking the question:

George W. Bush has released all of his service records. Why won't Kerry release his?

[concerned about politics]

Wow. CNN, the Clinton News Network, is dismissing the charges against the Bush guard service (which is clean no matter what the spin) as "political retribution".

DNC: Facts don't matter - "It's the seriousness of the charge."