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One in five Germans want Berlin Wall back
Reuters ^ | 8 September, 2004 | Alexandra Hudson

Posted on 09/08/2004 7:50:22 AM PDT by Lukasz

BERLIN (Reuters) - Fourteen years and a trillion euros after reunification one in five Germans would like to see the barrier that split the country during the Cold War put back, a survey has found.

A poll by the Forsa institute released on Wednesday found a quarter of western Germans wishing the 15 million east Germans were cut off again by the Berlin Wall, living in a different state, while 12 percent of eastern Germans wanted out of the united Germany.

Many westerners said they were disgruntled because they have had to foot the bill for reunification -- 24 percent said they had suffered financially as a result.

In the formerly communist east, which has twice the unemployment as in the west and where wages are still below western levels, one-third said they were no better off financially because of unification and the end of communism.

The lingering divisions have erupted in recent months as Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's government attempts to reduce unemployment and welfare benefits, touching a nerve in the east.

Westerners are sometimes disparaged as arrogant know-it-all "Wessies" while easterners are at times referred to as 'Jammer Ossies' (whinging easterners) in the west.

The Forsa survey, based on interviews with 1,002 easterners and 1,005 westerners, highlighted a feeling in the west that easterners are ungrateful for the financial support they have received since 1990 and they should do more to help themselves.

Thirty-seven percent of west Germans said the 80 billion euros (54 billion pounds) the government pumps into the east each year was too much. But almost a third of east Germans thought it too little, Forsa said.

Two top diplomats recently said they were alarmed at the poisoned atmosphere. Former West German Foreign Minister Hans-Dietrich Genscher and former East German Foreign Minister Markus Meckel said they feared the east-west gap was growing.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: berlinwall; germany; ostalgie
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1 posted on 09/08/2004 7:50:23 AM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Michael81Dus
Do you know statistics, which party voters mostly support that idea? Or which party is more popular in the east and which on the west. It will help me to understand this situation.

Btw I think that any society no matter how good live they have will never be fully satisfy. Although this time situation is very strange, cause two separate German countries will never such strong as one united country.
2 posted on 09/08/2004 7:50:57 AM PDT by Lukasz (Don’t trust the heart, it wants your blood.)
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To: Lukasz

I'd also like "The Jolson Story" to be re-released!


3 posted on 09/08/2004 7:52:25 AM PDT by RexBeach (Before God makes you greedy, he makes you stupid.)
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To: Lukasz

And we worry about what these people think of us?


4 posted on 09/08/2004 7:53:04 AM PDT by RockinRight (Vote early, vote often)
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To: Lukasz

The west germans footed the bill, and the east germans are "no better off financially". It all comes down to money, apparently.


5 posted on 09/08/2004 7:53:04 AM PDT by .38sw
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To: Lukasz

I always thought the reunification of Germany was done way too quickly. The "Wall of the Mind" is going to exist for several generations, and is going to drag both sides of Germany down with it.


6 posted on 09/08/2004 7:54:15 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Lukasz

I agree,one in five is pretty good. The title is meant to make a drab but optimistic story colorfull and negative.


7 posted on 09/08/2004 7:54:23 AM PDT by ItsTheMediaStupid
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To: Lukasz

Only 25% and 13% of the west and east (respectively) hate each other?

Sounds pretty good to me, considering what a piece of junk East Germany was when they re-unified.


8 posted on 09/08/2004 7:56:50 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: dfwgator

it will be interesting to see also statistics by age.


9 posted on 09/08/2004 7:57:11 AM PDT by Lukasz (Don’t trust the heart, it wants your blood.)
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To: Lukasz

So?? This means that FOUR Germans to every one DON'T want the Berlin Wall back. The math isn't hard here. In fact, this is as much "news" as those stories about one American veteran of the war on terror supporting Kerry, out of millions of veterans, both present and retired, who don't.


10 posted on 09/08/2004 7:57:45 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Lukasz
Btw I think that any society no matter how good live they have will never be fully satisfy.

I agree. From 10% to 20% of any given population is not satisfied. Either way.

11 posted on 09/08/2004 7:57:49 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: dfwgator

I dunno...four out of five Germans don't want that wall back. Sounds like a success to me.


12 posted on 09/08/2004 7:58:57 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: .38sw

True! But it's funny that they don't take this to its logical conclusion and figure out why many in the US are fed up with paying for Germany.


13 posted on 09/08/2004 7:59:04 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: Lukasz

And one in five dogs eat their own vomit and doodoo too.


14 posted on 09/08/2004 7:59:47 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: FourtySeven

Once upon a time Dresden, Leipzig, Magdeburg, and Halle were great cities brimming with culture. Practically a who's who of German brilliance came from there.

Has it all been destroyed in 40 years ?


15 posted on 09/08/2004 8:01:38 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Lukasz
Why should this be a problem? The 12% of easterners who want out should just build a wall around themselves and sit there. I'm sure the rest of Germany would be happy to let them alone.

Wonderful idea for socialists generally, as a matter of fact ....

16 posted on 09/08/2004 8:02:07 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Lukasz

I wish we'd build a Berlin Wall on the Texas/N.Mexico/Arizona/California southern borders...


17 posted on 09/08/2004 8:03:41 AM PDT by Blzbba (John F'in Kerry - Dawn of a New Error.)
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To: Lukasz

Mr Schroeder- Build Back this Wall!

(PS: Why don't the Germans just build a great big "Busch Gardens:post-Hitler Germany" for everyone who wants to live in la-la land?)


18 posted on 09/08/2004 8:04:42 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Sam the Sham

"Once upon a time Dresden, Leipzig, Magdeburg, and Halle were great cities ....Has it all been destroyed in 40 years ?"



Actually, I think Allied fire-bombing pretty-much took care of Dresden in the 40s...


19 posted on 09/08/2004 8:06:18 AM PDT by Blzbba (John F'in Kerry - Dawn of a New Error.)
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To: Lukasz

This story dovetails nicely with this one:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1210089/posts


20 posted on 09/08/2004 8:08:45 AM PDT by WestTexasWend
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