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RUDY TURNED MOST VOTERS TOWARD PREZ
New York Post ^ | 9/06/04 | STEPHANIE GASKELL

Posted on 09/06/2004 12:36:46 AM PDT by kattracks

September 6, 2004 -- Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani's speech at the Republican National Convention swayed more voters to re-elect President Bush than the speeches given by Sen. John McCain and Calif. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a new poll shows. Giuliani's 40-minute speech Monday night convinced 24 percent of those polled to vote for the GOP ticket, according to a recent Newsweek poll.

That's compared to 20 percent who said they were more likely to vote for Bush after hearing Schwarzenegger's speech Tuesday night. Just 20 percent said McCain's speech persuaded them to vote Republican in the Nov. 2 election.

Giuliani is said to be considering a presidential run in 2008, but some say his pro-choice, pro-gay rights record wouldn't make a good fit for a GOP ticket.


(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; camejo; cheney; dubya; edwards; election; giuliani; gwb; gwb2004; kerry; nader; rncconvention; rudy; swingvote
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To: txrangerette

We will need a national figure like Giulani to beat Clinton. By then, hopefully, the new supreme court justices will be confirmed so his liberalism on social matters won't matter as much


41 posted on 09/06/2004 6:34:16 AM PDT by ground_fog
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To: DoughtyOne
I like Laura, but I don't see her swaying public opinion that much.

Dick Morris said it was a home run with women voters.

42 posted on 09/06/2004 6:42:20 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: NewLand

LSM say the conventions of neither party are important. They're not news. They strive to give "equal time". They do not want to allow either party to give their message directly to the voters.

I watched on CSpan, but without seeing even one moment of network coverage, bet I can tell you what the network talking heads were telling viewers. The conventions are only a show & do not show people the real party.

I'd like to see the numbers for CSpan too. CSpan, the quiet network that helped change the nation. Newt's rise to power began there.


43 posted on 09/06/2004 7:05:40 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: ProudVet77
Rudy to NY, NJ, CT, RI and PA. (dense populations)

Dense populations? That explains why all those states went for Gore in 2000.

44 posted on 09/06/2004 7:05:41 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: kattracks

BUMP!


45 posted on 09/06/2004 7:08:06 AM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: SuziQ

If Giuliani could beat Hillary in the 2006 Senate race in NY, then we might not have to worry about her running for President. Of course if it looks like he will run for the Senate seat, she could choose not to run for a second term (in order to gear up for the 2008 race).


46 posted on 09/06/2004 7:08:10 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: kattracks; AntiGuv

Why no poll of how many votes
the President's speech turned?


47 posted on 09/06/2004 7:08:17 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Verginius Rufus

ROTFL. I was thinking in terms of getting the popular vote nationwide, but I your point is probably more accurate.


48 posted on 09/06/2004 7:11:37 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (It ain't over till the TRex throws out TF'n)
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To: BunnySlippers

Colorado Governor Bill Owens.


49 posted on 09/06/2004 7:16:37 AM PDT by RockinRight (Vote early, vote often)
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To: LS

Such as CO Governor, Bill Owens!

Owens in '08!!


50 posted on 09/06/2004 7:18:55 AM PDT by RockinRight (Vote early, vote often)
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To: AntiGuv

Interesting percentages! LOL

25% Laura Bush- Women voters

24% Giuliani- Americans (9-11)

22% Arnold- Immigrants, Liberals

21% Zell- conservative Democrats

20% McCain- Independents

19% Dick Cheney- Conservative base

There were other speakers that hit other voters but I think the Republicans did well with this list. These people all have different views on some conservative policies but those differences are well known. They spoke to what they were in agreement with and gave their support to the Prez. That is the best way to connect to voters that might not vote Republican because they have disagreements on certain issues. Tell them, yes, I have the same issues but these guys welcomed me! It's okay to vote Republican.


51 posted on 09/06/2004 7:21:19 AM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: DoughtyOne

All of the speeches were excellent but I loved the anger Zell spilled all over the dims. That is the same anger I feel for them. I could relate.


52 posted on 09/06/2004 7:26:57 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: txrangerette

The Newsweek poll was taken before the President's speech.


53 posted on 09/06/2004 7:26:58 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv

Another poll re: his speech, most
certainly could've been done. His
speech's effectiveness could've
been compared w/the previous ones.
Ridiculous(and telling) that NW
(or any pollster) chose not to.


54 posted on 09/06/2004 7:37:33 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: BunnySlippers

Geez. They were a hit at the convention because they sounded on ONLY conservative themes!!!! They didn't speek about their pet rino causes. Apparently you weren't paying attention. Go back and read their speeches.

This constant fawning over rinos or the more pathethic "well who else is going to defeat hillary" crap is pathetic. It's groupthink - someobody puts it out there (hell, maybe rudy did) and now no one can think beyond that little soundbite.

Here's a little clue - not many people thought of GWB during the 1996 election cycle to run for president in 2000. There IS time to find a better candidate than rudy - we don't have to choose now.


55 posted on 09/06/2004 8:29:01 AM PDT by flashbunny (Hey - click on my name to see an anti-kerry bumper sticker! Do it! Now!!!)
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To: LS

That's my take too.


56 posted on 09/06/2004 8:32:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: kattracks

Strange, considering the networks didn't cover his speech.


57 posted on 09/06/2004 8:33:09 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: ProudVet77

Nice. Thanks for the ping. I think Zell spoke to women also.


58 posted on 09/06/2004 8:33:53 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: txrangerette; ProudVet77

Ooops, you didn't ping me. TxRangerett did.

Thanks TxRangerette.


59 posted on 09/06/2004 8:34:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Al Simmons

Enough of this. What the hell his up with "only rudy can beat hillary, spawn of the devil?"

It's like one person said it so now all unimaginitive freepers repeat it. "Wow, that makes sense- we have to run a liberal republican against a liberal democrat". Does that make sense to you?

Picking rudy or mccain because you think "only he can beat hillary" is like picking kerry because "only he can beat bush". It's the same damn thing - a candidate that doesn't inspire his base (conservative republicans) but is merely a vessel for hatred of the other candidate.

Hiilary will not be defeated by offering a "anybody but hillary" candidate. She will not be defeated by offering up a 'popular' candidate that was made popular by the mainstream press, because the mainstream press can tear that candidate down when they run against hillary.

She will be defeated by running a candidate that energizies the majority of the base AND can communicate his core principles well to the rest of the country.

There are four years to go. Don't spout off about how rinos are our only hope when you don't even know who will be running in the republican primaries.


60 posted on 09/06/2004 8:37:33 AM PDT by flashbunny (Hey - click on my name to see an anti-kerry bumper sticker! Do it! Now!!!)
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