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Hurricane Frances : 2004-09-01 (New Thread)
Various | 2004-09-01 | Patton@Bastogne

Posted on 09/01/2004 3:15:34 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne

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Welcome to Wednesday's Hurricane Frances news-twist !

It looks like a Melbourne Landfall after all, once again (to Section9's worst fears) churning it's way North along the Coast Highway ...



Excellent Hurricane Frances Websites:

HURRICANE ALLEY

U.S. Weather Observers






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TOPICS: Announcements; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: South Carolina; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: frances; hurricane; hurricanefrances
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To: brothers4thID

A hurricane this size will continually go through the eyewall rebuilding cycle. This is what can give the hurricane a "wobble" and also causes the intensity to fluctuate. It actually has had 2 eyewalls as an outer wall decayed while a new inner wall grew.

Here is a real sexy computer model of Frances:

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2004/images/frances090104-1215zb.jpg


381 posted on 09/01/2004 2:13:19 PM PDT by Right_Handed_Writer
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To: scot taylor

I'm no hurricane expert but I think you were wise in pulling your daughter out of that trip. Prayer heavenward for the team in Florida <><


382 posted on 09/01/2004 2:13:35 PM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle (AMERICA, LAND OF THE FREE **BECAUSE** OF THE BRAVE.)
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To: dirtboy

Is Cape Canaveral in the middle of the path? Maybe we'll see how well the Space Shuttle Vertical Assembly Building flies.


383 posted on 09/01/2004 2:14:54 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: All

For all S. Florida Freepers - Monroe and Broward counties have closed schools for Tomorrow and Friday - Dade has not made a decision as of yet.

If nothing else, parents in those areas need to make arrangements for their children for the next two days.


384 posted on 09/01/2004 2:16:29 PM PDT by Brytani (A changing mind is a terrible thing to waste - Vote John Kerry)
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To: killjoy
Excellent advice killjoy. You should safeguard all your important documents, but that policy could shortly become the most important piece of paper you own.
385 posted on 09/01/2004 2:16:35 PM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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To: scot taylor

You did the right thing. Gov. Bush has asked all tourists planning to come to FL for Labor Day weekend to reschedule their trips.

Those hotels and other resources are going to be needed by evacuees.


386 posted on 09/01/2004 2:17:16 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat ("History? I love history! So sequential....")
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To: Howlin
Tallahassee is going to get wet and windy, but the storm will have lost most of its punch wrecking things in central Florida.

If the storm makes it intact into the Gulf, I don't think it would strengthen much before coming ashore again perhaps no further west than Pensacola. Of course, I may be the one who's all wet.

387 posted on 09/01/2004 2:19:25 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: killjoy

As a veteran of the Northridge earthquake, I can add another important tidbit: Keep some green cash handy; cash is king when there's no power and credit cards can't get processed.


388 posted on 09/01/2004 2:19:57 PM PDT by ErnBatavia ("Dork"; a 60's term for a 60's kinda guy: JFK)
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To: RightWhale

Tom Terry WFTV Ch. 9 Orlando..."I don't want to give anyone false hope right now but there is still time for it to turn north if the Bermuda High breaks down. Right now we are going to act like it is coming into Florida. The breadth of the storm means more wind damage. Not just in the eye." Winds of 80-100 in Orange County if it comes in. Osceola to 120 mph.


389 posted on 09/01/2004 2:22:02 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: gobucks

I'm not a weather expert, and realize that hurricanes can quickly lose strength over land, but the areas on that map prjected to receive cat 2,3, & 4 winds seem awfully shallow for a storm that size.


390 posted on 09/01/2004 2:23:39 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat ("History? I love history! So sequential....")
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To: All
The most recent pictures on TWC indicate a distinct deflection to the right in the last hour or so. The short-term significance of this is that it looks like the Turks and Caicos may be spared the very worst of the storm.

The long term question is... does this deflection indicate that a turn to a more NW direction is beginning, therefore raising the possibility of landfall to the north of the latest median projections? Or is it just a wobble?

This little directional change, combined with the forecast slowing of its forward speed, makes me think that it may be too early rule the Carolinas out of harm's way.

Question for those more knowledgeable hurricane hands: if it makes landfall, or approaches the land, at a very oblique angle -- say it approaches the north Florida shoreline on a 320 heading -- is there a tendency for it to "bounce" off the land mass and be deflected even more to the right?

391 posted on 09/01/2004 2:24:31 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (I used to be schizophrenic, but we're fine now.)
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To: SpookBrat

It never hurts to pack and be ready. If it takes a path as far north as you are it will most likely have slowed considerably and wouldn't get to you until Sunday late. But it would be a beast when it hit!


392 posted on 09/01/2004 2:26:38 PM PDT by Right_Handed_Writer
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To: Brytani
My husband has been called into to ride out the storm at Turkey Point Nuke plant where he works.

My brother designed the landscaping for Turkey Point many moons ago.

Gotta tell you a funny story...

I took a novice sailing in Biscayne Bay . We sailed over to Caeser Creek did a little fishing and were going to spend the night.

Nightfall came, mosquitos biting (summer) no fish.

Some phosphorescent algae floated by and my friend asked me what it was.

I pointed at Turkey Point. He freaked out.

Took me some time to calm him down. :)

Turkey Point is a Nuke plant.

393 posted on 09/01/2004 2:31:29 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Gabz
Just heard from Mom, she was due to come home from FL on Tues but that's been changed, she's going home Fri.

Rumors are going round here that they'll bus us out of here if Frances makes it up this way as a Cat 4...

Will just have to wait and see what happens. If it starts to look bad this weekend I'll be packing my bags and waiting for the order to leave. I didn't stick around for Isabel either. Our complex was without power for at least a week in some parts, two weeks in others.

394 posted on 09/01/2004 2:33:39 PM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: Right_Handed_Writer; JustPiper

This thing is a monster.


395 posted on 09/01/2004 2:34:17 PM PDT by drymans wife (Clintoon Saga continues, MONICAGATE, TROUSERGATE, I did not put those papers in his pants.)
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To: Vinnie

Oh you're bad, very bad. Typical FReeper-style humor, though, I have to hand it to you :-).


396 posted on 09/01/2004 2:36:14 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: All

Mr. Lu has an ex-wife (whom I like) in West Palm, and a son in Hobe Sound. Another son in Gainesville.

Good thoughts to all, b/c Frances is a b****.


397 posted on 09/01/2004 2:37:23 PM PDT by LuLuLuLu
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To: All
For anyone hanging their hat on the hurricane losing strength over land, go back and look at the Charley track. Then calculate the distance between landfall on the west coast and it's exit point on the east coast. Subtract 10 miles since damage on the coast wasn't that bad. The Orlando area got POUNDED by that hurricane that "should have lost strength over land." That is a minimum of 100 miles of significant damage and it went diagonally across the state which should have maximized any land attenuation effect.
398 posted on 09/01/2004 2:37:30 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Kerry was in the Senate???)
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To: Howlin

I hope to also be in Raleigh on Saturday after two weeks in L.A. - hopefully before Frances... :-)


399 posted on 09/01/2004 2:40:05 PM PDT by NCjim
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To: Vinnie

I hope he has his Potassium Iodide kit and a radio with batteries. When I worked in the Coral Gables area we'd go to this bar near the reactor after work. We got to know some of the regulars who would, after we'd been there for an hour or so, get up to leave saying their shift at Turkey Point was starting soon.


400 posted on 09/01/2004 2:41:31 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Kerry was in the Senate???)
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