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TWO Russian Airliners Have Crashed.

Posted on 08/24/2004 3:01:38 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55

Per Foxnews Alert. Into the red sea.

60 people aboard the first one.


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KEYWORDS: chechentrash; georgia; plane; planecrash; religionofpeace; russia; russian911; russianplanes; terrorism; war
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To: Cindy

Cindy,

There is no url. I did not find them via a web site (google for instance archives usenet posts.) You should be able to find it at news://yournewsserverhere/alt.russia


801 posted on 08/24/2004 8:36:46 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Sacajaweau
About 400 miles from Moscow to Athens on my map.

London to Paris is 212 miles alone. Here's a pretty good map showing the great distance between Moscow and Athens....


802 posted on 08/24/2004 8:38:06 PM PDT by ohioconservative
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To: Smogger; Dog

CNN saying that a hijack signal was received from the first plane (I think).


803 posted on 08/24/2004 8:39:55 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1198756/posts


New thread


804 posted on 08/24/2004 8:43:22 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (If only hamsters could talk...THEY'D tell you the truth that Upland IS in Pennsylvania!)
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To: Mo1

Maby, I've found that local news usualy just gets its feeds from AP and and the like, and they offer very little except teasers to get you to tune in. This of course does not include local stories about local incidents. ie. abc dallas gets its feed from abcnews which gets most stuff from groups like the AP or its own global corrispondants. But if the dallas mayor does something stupid as usual abc dallas would be the first on it as far as MSM goes.... but thats my opinion, i could be wrong, if so, disreguard.

as per the switch, i dont know what a terror alert switch would do on a plane that small, its been reported that there was no emergancy signal on the transponder.


805 posted on 08/24/2004 8:43:39 PM PDT by melkor ("its just my thoughts, agree, disagree, doesnt matter to me")
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To: melkor

www.cnn.com

BREAKING NEWS Russian news agency Interfax reports airliner sent "hijack" alert before disappearing from radar and crashing. Details soon.

/shrug, well i was wrong on this one


806 posted on 08/24/2004 8:45:35 PM PDT by melkor ("its just my thoughts, agree, disagree, doesnt matter to me")
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To: melkor
they offer very little except teasers to get you to tune in

It was reported at the end of their broadcasting

807 posted on 08/24/2004 8:46:39 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: melkor
BREAKING NEWS Russian news agency Interfax reports airliner sent "hijack" alert before disappearing from radar and crashing. Details soon.

That is what my local news reported

808 posted on 08/24/2004 8:47:32 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: Mo1

We all want to say "Accident" but are all thing "terrorist".


809 posted on 08/24/2004 8:49:10 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: ChadGore

Read post 765 again. It sounds like 3 planes. What am I missing?


810 posted on 08/24/2004 8:51:32 PM PDT by fritzz (He that is good at making Excuses… Is seldom good at anything else....Ben Franklin)
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To: Sacajaweau
We all want to say "accident" but we're all THINKING "terrorist". (Correction to previous post.

Bet Putin had them shot down! Bet the earlier Bus stop bombing was a "go" signal!

811 posted on 08/24/2004 8:52:36 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
We all want to say "Accident" but are all thing "terrorist".

If it was one plane .. I would lean towards a terrible accident, unless reported otherwise

2 planes going down within minutes of each other .. then I lean towards terrorists

812 posted on 08/24/2004 8:55:21 PM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: Smogger

Thank you Smogger.
I appreciate the feedback.


813 posted on 08/24/2004 8:55:23 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: ohioconservative

Boy, never would have thought Moscow to Athens was only 400 miles. Hell, here to Boston is about that and you can drive that in 6 hrs.

Looking at your map Athens to Bucharest looks twice as far as London to Paris.


814 posted on 08/24/2004 9:05:05 PM PDT by L`enn
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To: Warren_Piece
Maybe some of y'all who are as old as me will remember this. Didn't the hardline commies attempt a coup of Gorbechev while he was on vacation?

If I recall correctly he was at his dachau. (sp)

815 posted on 08/24/2004 9:09:59 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (For our borders, there is no hope on the way.)
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To: All

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20040824_2481.html

Report: Russian Jet Sent Hijack Signal
One Russian Airliner Crashes, Second Disappears; Official Says Jet Sent Hijack Signal

The Associated Press



MOSCOW Aug. 24, 2004 — A Russian airliner crashed and a second disappeared from radar about the same time Tuesday night after both planes took off from the same Moscow airport, raising fears that terrorism was involved.
The Russian news agency Interfax reported that a hijacking signal was activated on the second plane before it went missing. The signal came at 11:04 p.m. from the Tu-154 airliner, Interfax quoted the source in Russia's "power structures" as saying.





There was no word on survivors among the 89 people believed to be aboard the planes, which left Moscow's Domodedovo airport 40 minutes apart, Russian news agencies reported.

President Vladimir Putin ordered an investigation by the nation's top intelligence agency, and security was tightened at airports across the country.

Authorities have expressed concern that separatist rebels in the southern republic of Chechnya could carry out attacks linked to this Sunday's presidential election there. Rebels have been blamed for a series of terror strikes that have claimed hundreds of lives.

Chechnya's previous president, the pro-Russian Akhmad Kadyrov, was killed by a bombing in May.

Witnesses reported seeing an explosion before the first plane crashed about 125 miles south of Moscow, and authorities were not ruling out terrorism, the agency said.

Interfax said emergency workers spotted a fire about 600 miles south of Moscow in the region where the second plane went missing.

Putin ordered the Federal Security Service to investigate, Russian news agencies reported. The service is the successor to the Soviet-era KGB.

No restrictions were placed on flights at Domodedovo, Interfax reported.

A Tu-134 airliner with 43 people aboard crashed in the Tula region, 125 miles south of Moscow, at about 10:56 p.m. Tuesday, Emergency Situations Ministry spokeswoman Marina Ryklina said. She said the plane was carrying 35 passengers and a crew of eight.

ITAR-Tass reported that the plane belonged to Volgograd-based airline Volga-Aviaexpress and was being piloted by the company's director. Rescuers found the jet's tail near the village of Buchalki, Interfax reported.

A Tu-154 with 46 people aboard lost contact with flight officials about three minutes later near Rostov-on-Don, about 600 miles south of Moscow, Ryklina said. The jet belonged to the Russian airline Sibir, which said the plane disappeared from radar screens at about 11 p.m. Tuesday, Interfax reported. There were 38 passengers and a crew of eight aboard the plane, which Sibir said had been in service since 1982.

Interfax later said emergency workers were headed to the region near the Ukrainian border to see if the fire was from a crash. Rainy weather hampered the search, state-run Rossiya television reported.

Earlier, ITAR-Tass reported that emergency officials said the second plane crashed.

Quoting an unnamed air traffic official in Moscow, ITAR-Tass said authorities were not ruling out terrorism. The agency also reported that witnesses said they saw an explosion before the Tula region crash.

The plane that crashed near Tula left Moscow at 10:15 p.m. and was headed to the southern city of Volgograd, while the plane that disappeared left at 9:35 p.m. for the Black Sea resort city of Sochi, where Putin was vacationing, ITAR-Tass and Rossiya reported.

When Russia's U.N. Ambassador Andrey Denisov was told of the initial report of two near-simultaneous crashes, he said, "Now we have to see if there's terrorism."

In Washington, a U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity Tuesday evening, said it was the understanding of American officials that the two Russian planes disappeared within four minutes of each other, which "in and of itself is suspicious."

Separately, a U.S. counterterrorism official, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said there was no threat reporting to indicate a threat to U.S. aircraft or to U.S. aircraft in Russia.

The U.S. Homeland Security Department was monitoring the situation but was not implementing any additional security measures in the United States, spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said.


Associated Press reporter Katherine Pfleger Shrader in Washington contributed to this report.


816 posted on 08/24/2004 9:13:23 PM PDT by melkor ("its just my thoughts, agree, disagree, doesnt matter to me")
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To: ConservativeMan55

Didn't Gertz report last week that a major assassination was in the works, and that it would signal a series of attacks around the world?


817 posted on 08/24/2004 9:19:41 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Bingo! probably supposed to be Putin. Stay tuned.


818 posted on 08/24/2004 9:27:15 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Dunno.
Putin was at the destination of one of the aircraft but doesent he have a counterpart to our Air Force One?


819 posted on 08/24/2004 9:30:20 PM PDT by 76834
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To: 76834

I meant they may have planned to crash it into his vacation villa/home/whatever it is..


820 posted on 08/24/2004 9:43:16 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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