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GOTTA SEE THIS - "Looters will be shot" - Hurricane Charley
Yahoo news photos | August 14, 2004

Posted on 08/14/2004 11:08:50 AM PDT by TaxRelief

Another great example of the importance of the 2nd am Notice the shotgun on the green deck chair...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; bush43; charley; charlie; elections; fl; florida; guns; hurricane; hurricanecharley; hurricanecharlie; jeb; jebbush; looters; politics; weather
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To: Conservababe
Unarmed folks always run to armed ones when they need protection.

I hear yah...I practice w/swords/knives/body...being an Martial Artist is good, when you fun out of ammo. be safe :))

61 posted on 08/14/2004 6:02:30 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: Conservababe
...when you fun RUN out of ammo. be safe

..and it is FUN! :))

62 posted on 08/14/2004 6:05:51 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: Joe Brower
"they'll kill ya, and chances are good the A.G. will not prosecute"

Considering the "disaster" and past lootings, Floridians might react like New Yorkers did over Bernard Getz(sp?).

I think it was in the late 70's. He was a subway robbery victim that shot his robbers - he'd been robbed in the past, etc. Initially at least, he was a hero.

But then even he lost out in the end. I don't remember the details, but the Feds punished him.

63 posted on 08/14/2004 6:15:34 PM PDT by wasnova
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To: summer
The National Guard is on its way.


64 posted on 08/14/2004 6:16:23 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Keep your kids safe; keep W in the White House.)
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To: wasnova
...he will have to prove his innocence in a court of law, under a charge of murder.

That's just the way it is.

 

Frayed knot.

 

The PROSECUTOR will have to prove his GUILT in a court of law, under a charge of murder.

That's REALLY the way it is.


65 posted on 08/14/2004 7:25:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
"REALLY the way it is."

Really, it's a game of shows. A competition between shows presented to the jury. Or sometimes; who is allowed by the judge to put on the best show.

It's rare that anyone testifying actually tells the truth. Seems like most people that testify have reasons to be deceptive. The most important testimony usually comes from paid experts, police officers, civil executive employees, jail-house snitches and the very guilty who turn on the marginally guilty.

Truth and Reality are usually the first issues to be tossed by the wayside and it becomes - What is the best Show that the jury might buy that can get by the judge and can be created out of all the lies, deceptions and prejudices, etc. -

Sometimes it all comes down to something really insane like "If the glove don't fit you must acquit."

But, unlike that example, it's usually the prosecutor that has the upper hand with money, control of events, witnesses, sympathy of the judge and on and on.

66 posted on 08/14/2004 8:40:52 PM PDT by wasnova
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To: TaxRelief
Good Evening All-

TaxRelief, if one didn't know it was hurricane damage, you would think that someone barfed cotton candy onto the man's piano! Eating too many sweets causes that sometimes.

~ Blue Jays ~

67 posted on 08/15/2004 12:02:50 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: ArmyBratproud
Did anybody else notice that when they showed of one of the towns in Florida...that on one block...all the buildings were damaged, except one. That one building was a HOOTERS.

Breasts endure.

68 posted on 08/15/2004 12:06:40 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: wasnova
In case anyone doesn't know better; writing "killed" in a warning-sign like this is a very very bad idea.

Actually, this was the perfect time for him to spray-paint the addresses
(and hand out xeroxed directions) for the abodes of "Million Mom March"
supporters in his neighborhood.
69 posted on 08/15/2004 12:10:41 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Conservababe
Unarmed folks always run to armed ones when they need protection.

Amazing how "scalable" that principle is.
Works from individuals all the way up to multiple nations.
70 posted on 08/15/2004 12:13:26 AM PDT by VOA
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To: wasnova
I hear what you're saying. One large extenuating circumstance between the two events though:

That was New York. This is Florida. The sheep are well armed here, and the governments, local, county and state, are all perfectly OK with that.


71 posted on 08/15/2004 4:35:00 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Blue Jays

The only one who lost lunch was "Upchuck Charley".


72 posted on 08/15/2004 7:03:10 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Keep your kids safe; keep W in the White House.)
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To: Brytani
One of the funniest stories out of Andrew was security and nuclear operators at Turkey Point Nuke plant chasing an escaped chimps all over the reactor areas after Andrew.

The thought of "Radioactive Monkeys with AIDs" could have been on his mind.

Heck, sounds a new rat constituency to me. Bet he got in trouble chasing them off before registering them...

73 posted on 08/15/2004 7:08:28 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: wasnova

And people keep asking me why I have been saying this place is going to the dogs.


75 posted on 08/15/2004 6:25:42 PM PDT by Old Professer (The harbor master is largely unconcerned with the direction of the tide - only its amplitude.)
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To: Joe Brower; wasnova
That was New York. This is Florida.

... and looting is a unique offense, with a specific definition. In the aftermath of a hurricane - including a complete lack of law enforcement presence - looters are fair game, and in season.

Doesn't matter what the dude wrote on his wall.

76 posted on 08/16/2004 9:06:25 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: xsrdx; Joe Brower; wasnova
Worrying about the exact words he wrote on the wall after a massive hurricane is 9/10 thinking in a 9/11 world.

Nobody's got TIME to parse legalisms here.

But the most important thing is, any D.A. who DARED to prosecute this man if he shot and killed a looter would be run out of town on a rail. But he wouldn't - especially if D.A.s in Florida are elected. His entire constituency more or less is in this man's position - having to protect their families and homes with no law enforcement assistance.

77 posted on 08/16/2004 9:18:56 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: xsrdx
A Present Posting on FR:

"Young girl mistaken as intruder, shot and killed by stepfather

HOUSTON -- A 5-year-old girl's stepfather accidentally shot and killed the child after mistaking her for a burglar, according to law officers."

Would this guy be better or worse off had he posted a sign denoting an intent/desire to kill?

78 posted on 08/16/2004 4:44:16 PM PDT by wasnova
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To: xsrdx
... and looting is a unique offense, with a specific definition. In the aftermath of a hurricane - including a complete lack of law enforcement presence - looters are fair game, and in season.

Out of curiosity, what would be the preferred protocol for homeowners seeking salvageable items of theirs which they believe to have landed on someone else's property? For example, suppose a homeowner sees a chest of drawers which is plastered with stickers or something that they recognize. If the owner of the property where it is seen isn't present, are there any protocols?

Related story: my grandparents had a stone pier with two sections connected by a wooden bridge. About a decade ago, a storm blew the bridge off the pier, but I happened to find it on the beach some distance away. Some relatives and I took the bridge back to the pier where it has since been re-installed and stands to this day. So being able to salvage something that gets blown away is not out of the question.

79 posted on 08/16/2004 7:38:58 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: TaxRelief

Having gone through Andrew, this is a very stupid thing to do. Why protect property that will be replaced by insurance? In fact if I go through this again, I would happily help the looters get my stuff.


80 posted on 08/17/2004 10:48:01 AM PDT by ItsTheMediaStupid
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