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The Tragedy Of The McGreevy Marriage (Rabbi Boteach's Thoughts On Bi-Sexuals And Marriage)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 08/14/03 | Rabbi Shmuley Boteach

Posted on 08/13/2004 11:13:57 PM PDT by goldstategop

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The Rabbi's point is bi-sexual men don't change their natural attraction for men easily and to insist they love women they cannot remain faithful to is to devalue and undermine the very meaning of heterosexual marriage. In unions such as the one Jim McGreevey and his wife Dina were involved in, the result is more devastating to the woman than to the man. How we can we avoid such scenes on our nightly newscasts? By going back to the basics and eschewing the "if it feels good, just do it" mindset that that undermined the stability of marriage and family in our culture. Society needs to do all it can to strengthen love and commitment over lust and casual sex and so bringing out in the process the best rather than the worst in human nature. It may be too late to save McGreevey marriage but hopefully a more realistic approach will save countless others. And it cannot happen too soon.
1 posted on 08/13/2004 11:13:58 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
The Rules:

1. A male who is only attracted to females is heterosexual.

2. A male who is attracted to females and males is queer.

2 posted on 08/13/2004 11:17:20 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise
McGreevey is attracted to males.

He hired a woman to play his wife for political reasons.

And I very much doubt that his wife didn't know the score from day one.

3 posted on 08/13/2004 11:19:31 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: goldstategop; cyborg; Lijahsbubbe; NYC GOP Chick; Happygal; Slings and Arrows; Jet Jaguar; ...
Don't have the time or the energy to read the entire article, so I'll leave you with this thought.

KOSHER SEX

4 posted on 08/13/2004 11:24:18 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid (Blessed is the man who wears a cap.)
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To: goldstategop
Indeed, gay men who are attracted to women usually make much better husbands and fathers since they are usually softer, gentler, more domesticated and more nurturing than their heterosexual counterparts.

Oh, yes, and they are much better at decorating, and cooking. This is total BS.

5 posted on 08/13/2004 11:26:45 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: Enterprise

... as a three dollar bill.


6 posted on 08/13/2004 11:27:56 PM PDT by Founding Father
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To: sockmonkey
Shmuley is as crazy as a loon. It wasn't five years ago that he was saying of pedophile rapist Michael Jackson:

Watching him with his children has made me a better father, seeing him interact at his ranch with cancer patients has made me a more compassionate human being, and witnessing his humility has made me realise that if he can be approachable, then I have no excuse for aloofness.

Koo-Koo for Cocoa Puffs is Shmuley.

7 posted on 08/13/2004 11:34:00 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

Amen. The guy drives me crazy whenever he talks. All sex experts are weird, including the Vermin sisters. And that dried up Canadian wacko woman! Ugh. She is a walking libido killer.


8 posted on 08/13/2004 11:57:00 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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To: goldstategop

The Rabbi's screed is compelling, but I think McGreevey has been deceiving the New Jersey voters about more than his sexual preferences. When you cut through the religious and moral smoke, what we have here is a criminal.


9 posted on 08/13/2004 11:58:45 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: goldstategop

"Religious" or "moral" (his words), Boteach deemphasizes and liberalizes the importance of the Law, IMO. ...remember Sedom and Amorah?


10 posted on 08/14/2004 12:09:23 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

Check Leviticus. This ain't Kosher.


11 posted on 08/14/2004 12:13:37 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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Don't have the time or the energy to read the entire article, so I'll leave you with this thought.KOSHER SEX

"No no no! I said you need to separate your meat from your dairy!"

12 posted on 08/14/2004 12:19:44 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War (we use the ¡°ml maximize¡± command in Stata to obtain estimates of each aj , bj, and cm.)
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To: goldstategop
in the case of the wife of a successful politician like James McGreevey, she is seen as cold and calculating, prepared to remain in a fraudulent marriage in order to share power.

I don't know if this describes McGreevey's wife, but it does bring to mind another woman in politics: Hillary.

13 posted on 08/14/2004 12:33:24 AM PDT by wai-ming
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FAct of the matter is the good Rabbi missed the mark...the ones who suffer the most are the CHILDREN of such unions...McGreevy is a total and complete jerk and dilitante. He goes to a foreign country falls in love with a person not his wife, brings that person back to NJ, gives that person a job to keep that person around, and continues to pretned that his marriage is meaningful by fathering two children...what an ahole


14 posted on 08/14/2004 12:40:53 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: dead

She had children with him...I think she had no clue


15 posted on 08/14/2004 12:41:37 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: Slings and Arrows; Dont Mention the War; wai-ming; sockmonkey; Xenalyte; Bacon Man; dead; ...
Abu Hamza:

Take dat mashbooh shiz-nit out da house, b***! Dere ain't no "Kosher" sex, ye retarded bloke! Dere is only halal sex, ye stoopid bugger! Jess, zat is sex wit de hook! If you ain't been banged by a fat, Muslim wanker with a hook for a hand, let me tell you, "YOU AIN'T BEEN banged right and propa." Inshallah, dis haram, whack, jahilliyah bull**** will be avenged, by the grace of Allah.

Imam Hamza's Guide To Funky Sex

-by Capt. Hook

16 posted on 08/14/2004 12:45:22 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid (Blessed is the man who wears a cap.)
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To: Dont Mention the War

Two sets of sheets?


17 posted on 08/14/2004 5:13:51 AM PDT by OSHA (Cheap Shots, Low Blows and Late Hits. Free Delivery. Fast Friendly Service with a Smile!)
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To: goldstategop
But the truth is that these women suffer enormously. I have had many women crying in my office as they related the pain of discovering that they could never be attractive to their husbands, and how that horrible fact undermined their very identity as women. One woman told me that after her husband had revealed to her that he was only able to perform with her sexually by thinking about men, she had thought that night of killing herself.

I have a female friend who found out that a male high school friend of hers (her prom date, actually) was gay. They had remainded friendly through their 20s and 30s and she was quite upset when he announced his "coming out" to her.

As for the 2nd Mrs. McGreevey, though, I'm somewhat skeptical. Supposedly her husband's dalliances were well known during his first marriage.

18 posted on 08/14/2004 5:19:53 AM PDT by independentmind
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To: sockmonkey

You knew the article was screwy when it makes reference to the governor's "marriage" instead of "marriages"; the guy did it twice, and had a child in each of them.


19 posted on 08/14/2004 6:30:56 AM PDT by Tuco Ramirez (Ideas have consequences.)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

The image of Abu Hamza having sex will go down in history as the most effective contraceptive device known to mankind.


20 posted on 08/14/2004 8:27:57 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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