Too conservative huh? Maybe they should run the usual suspects.
Posted on 08/09/2004 5:28:52 PM PDT by RWR8189
CHICAGO (CBS 2) Illinois' senate race is heating up with both Democrat Barack Obama and new Republican candidate Alan Keyes in town pressing the flesh and warming up to voters.
The Republican candidate in this race may just be getting started, but according to an exclusive new CBS 2/Newsradio 780 poll, Keyes has a long way to go. 67 percent of Illinois voters prefer Democrat Obama; 28 percent would choose Keyes.
Keyes and his supporters were feeling the heat of the August sun as he announced for U.S. Senate at a crowded rally in Arlington Heights. Our exclusive voter opinion survey shows Obama generating another kind of heat.
Obama's lead in our CBS 2/Newsradio 780 Survey was most pronounced among women voters, 74 percent to 21percent for Keyes. Among men, it was 59 percent to 36 percent.
There was no surprise in strongly Democratic Chicago: 79 percent for Obama, 16 percent for Keyes.
But in the heavily Republican collar counties, it was Obama with 62 percent, Keyes with 34 percent. . Even downstate, 56 percent of those polled preferred Obama to 38 percent for Keyes. The results were almost the same in rural areas: 57 percent to 39 percent.
Virtually every Democrat we talked to favored Obama. Among independent voters, 64 percent chose Obama, 30 percent chose Keyes. Even among Republicans, 27 percent defected to Obama, 67 percent chose Keyes.
White voters went 62 percent to 32 percent for Obama; black voters by a margin of 89 percent to 10 percent.
The poll was conducted by Survey USA this past Friday and Saturday. It is accurate to within plus or minus four percentage points.
Good advice, and thanks for the correction.
Short of further examination, I withdraw the troll comment and apologize for it.
You're right.
This means noting, cross reference this poll with the question of whether or not they even know keyes, and you will see Keyes doing well considering he's basically an unknown in the state.
Keyes has his work cut out for him.. but one thing I can say about Keyes.... by election day he will no longer be an unknown in IL. for sure.
He keeps shooting straight and riling the PC establishment daily and every headline in every paper statewide daily will be about Keyes.
Too conservative huh? Maybe they should run the usual suspects.
Agree with you there... Any republican that wants to win Il has to do very good outside Chicago... Chicago is a city of corruption and a democratic machine that has owned the city for a century or more... Lots of dependency class welfare dems etc etc etc....
I don't think Keyes will ever get a majority in the city... hell I don't think any Repub can at this time. Focus on solidifying the rural and suburbans parts of the state, don't give up on Chicago, but have to solidify outside of city to have a change.
According to an interview he did for the Southern Illinoisan, that is exactly what he plans to do next. He said something like, "I firmly believe in seeing friends first."
or ANYWHERE in the USoA!
The best analysis is by John Kass of the Tribune (token conservative columnist). Kass has written that the state party leadership of "moderate" Republican Judy Baar Topinka (who thinks of abortion as a sacrament, showed up at a gay "rights" parade as state GOP Chair, and well knows that the most important issue is whose cronies get the jobs, contracts and jail terms) pushed for public disclosure to destroy Jack Ryan for showing the conservative nature of the state's GOP primary voters, then were humiliated by being unable to find a credible "moderate" candidate willing to run (which would most certainly NOT include Oberweis who claimed this year to be pro-life after labelling GOP pro-lifers the "Taliban" but whose embarassing anti-Mexican campaign would alienate a very substantial growing constituency in Illinois).
As Topinka needs to avoid her humiliating performance as state party chairman in order to be credible in running for governor AND needs to overcome the conservative primary victory this year of Jack Ryan lest conservatives here notice that they CAN win primaries after all (Fitzgerald? or O'Malley?), she needed a break. The Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee of Sen. George Allen needed to fill the Illinois nomination lest Barack Obama (the skinny guy with the funny name) be free to run around the country maximizing black turnout everywhere. You can bet that RSCC suggested Keyes and a good suggestion it was compared to the alternatives.
Keyes will campaign hard and will show the flag on most legitimate GOP issues, social, constitutional, foreign and military, taxes, etc. Keyes is the best candidate available because of the fact that Keyes is black and more spontaneously eloquent. Keyes will also be able to highlight Obama's state senate voting record of unrelieved radicalism, his ties to Chicago corruption and what not. Daley wanted Obama to go to Washington lest Obama primary Little Richie Daley seeking control of the machine's patronage base.
If I had to bet money, I would expect Obama to win. He will not win by the margin of this poll and Keyes will tie him down. I also agree with that Topinka will not avoid the opprobrium of having been utterly inept as state GOP Chairman. She will try and fail to peddle the line that she gave the conservatives a nominee after all their years of complaining against state GOP leaders and that Keyes lost (or lost big) proving that "pro-abort, pro-gay marriage "moderation" is what we need. We will be done with Judy Baby, Edgar and company in just two more years. If Blago really blows it, we may have either Fitzgerald or O'Malley as governor and a new day for Illinois and its GOP.
Thanks for your comments on my previous post.
Badray: I love the following quote on your page: "The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle, and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle."
James Madison, A Memorial and Remonstrance, 1785: Works 1:163
Too bad our so-called "historians" have dumbed us down to the ideas of liberty and the principles that lead to tyranny. America's Founders clearly understood them; therefore, they could 'avoid' moves to "usurp" the power that, alone, belonged to WE, THE PEOPLE, under their Constitution.
They wisely provided THE ONLY MEANS for amending the Constitution within that document. The Liberal Left and its activist judges have wrested that power away from the people in many cases and have twisted the Rule of Law into what can better be described as the Rule of Men in Black Robes.
People like Dr. Keyes should be given every opportunity to bring the Founders' ideas back into our public discourse. Only then will future generations have an opportunity to avoid tyranny and enjoy liberty.
The GOP is also not going to be the party more identified with income taxation, either. Our civilization would do very nicely without taxing earnings. Put the bureaucrats and their programs on a diet accordingly. Start by ending he mass murder which is gummint-funded child-killing.
Thanks. I just used that quote earlier today. Someone was bashing the country and our system and insinuated that the Founders failed us.
The truth is that we have failed them. They warned us about the nature of man and expected us to hold them accountable. That we haven't is our shame, not the Founders.
The American people have proven to be too craven, too lazy, and too greedy. Fortunately, we've always have awakened from our slumber in time in the past. The critical question now is whether we will even recognize the call to action. I'm no longer hopeful.
And he's got all those unpaid campaign bills from last time....
Amelia, must you always be so practical? I'm sure they'll be paid as soon as possible.
Right. Keyes can only manage to get around 28% of the vote and I'm a "defeatist" for believing he will lose. ROFL!
If Bush had 28% and Kerry had 67% I would say that Bush is going to lose as well.
In any event, I stated my opinion on abortion, and consider it middle of the road. Of course, you have this tendency to view what is in the middle of the road as the functional equivalent of the other side of the road.
How in the world did you ever acquire such highly honed diplomacy skills?
Even if they said that the day after he entered the race?
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