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REPUBLICANS PLAN PUSH FOR ELIMINATION OF IRS
http://www.drudgereport.com/ ^ | XXXXX SUN AUG 01, 2004 21:01:25 ET XXXXX | Matt Drudge

Posted on 08/02/2004 5:57:43 AM PDT by downtoliberalism

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To: downtoliberalism

I fail to understand how people get excited about a 30% national sales tax on top of what will need to be a 10% state sales tax.


21 posted on 08/02/2004 6:12:09 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: downtoliberalism
I'd like to see an intelligent discussion of the Fair Tax vs. the Flat Tax. Milton Friedman and Steve Forbes have been big proponents of the Flat Tax for a long time. Both ideas have merit. You won't see the Democrats discussing either one of these ideas, though. All you'll get from them is hysterical demagoguery, like "Tax breaks for the rich..."

It's about time we heard from the grown-ups.
22 posted on 08/02/2004 6:12:25 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I would rather have the IRS than a Value Added Tax.

So you don't mind spending a month every year figuring what you owe, and the other eleven worrying about whether, in the opinion of the IRS, you did it right?

23 posted on 08/02/2004 6:12:39 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Dog Gone

Actually, a lot of immigrants, illegal, etc, would still land themselves exempt, because they buy a lot of things under the radar of that tax. Garage Sales, their own peoples delivery grocery trucks, that do not pay taxes. There is an entire segment of the population under the general population who function quite nicely outside of the laws of this country.


24 posted on 08/02/2004 6:15:17 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: downtoliberalism; StriperSniper; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; ...
This should be interesting................
25 posted on 08/02/2004 6:16:22 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Always Right

I don't ever remember seeing a number as high as 40% on nationa/state sales taxes combined - but I do agree that a flat tax would be much better IMHO.


26 posted on 08/02/2004 6:16:50 AM PDT by Frapster (ding-a-ling)
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To: usnret99
Next would love to see about 1/2 to 3/4 of the Government done away with.

The only way that will ever happen is if (1) we get a supermajority in both houses of congress and (2) Dubya decides that it's time to do it.

Unfortunately, our President, God love him, has not seemed to be on board with reductions in size of government to this point. We can hope and pray he's just been fooling the libs.

27 posted on 08/02/2004 6:18:28 AM PDT by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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To: silverleaf
I would imagine that the Heinz Corp...has paid more in taxes...than you or I could ever hope to make.

Frankly I think that even though I loathe them all...I'd like to see algore's, heinzscary, & Mr. Ed's taxes reduced.

I rather doubt it will happen....but I'd vote for a rock if they would implement two things....Abolishment of the IRS, ( replaced with some sort of NST, FLAT TAX, or the like. ) & absolute term limits.

FRegards,

28 posted on 08/02/2004 6:19:08 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is blacker than the Pacific's Monterey Canyon)
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To: downtoliberalism

Wow, nothing like posting OLD NEWS.


29 posted on 08/02/2004 6:20:09 AM PDT by xrp
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To: downtoliberalism

Tax consumption and not the creation of wealth.

National Sales Tax NOW!!!


30 posted on 08/02/2004 6:20:36 AM PDT by t_skoz
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And that is exactly the way that a lot of politicians want it.


31 posted on 08/02/2004 6:22:58 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: downtoliberalism

Sounds good, but the Republicans....will let this slip through their fingers too.....

Good ideas, but short on hard ball politics.


33 posted on 08/02/2004 6:26:01 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: Always Right

I agree with this statement. The IRS can't totally go away unless payroll taxes are eliminated and someone will still need to police the compliance and collection of any other form of tax. Why does it matter if its a VAT, NST or a variation of the income tax? Unless government spending is cut, the total tax they'll need to collect will be the same.

Why does it matter if they take it from me as a dollar bill or 4 quarters, multiplied by several thousand, if they still take the same amount of money. It's like not wanting to paint the livingroom and arguing with your wife whether it will be green or tan.

Dan


34 posted on 08/02/2004 6:27:47 AM PDT by scubadan (De oppresso liber)
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To: greatvikingone
Think they'll get on board?

I think they would prefer to keep the IRS AND have a national sales tax.

35 posted on 08/02/2004 6:29:38 AM PDT by knuthom
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To: nuffsenuff

Let me add a few more pleases to your list - but I'll do it mentally, so as not to bring down the server....


36 posted on 08/02/2004 6:30:04 AM PDT by livius
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To: Dog Gone

NO VATs they sound cool but inpractice they don't work too well and they allow the govt. to raise them way to easily. Give me a Flat Tax or an NRST(my preference because it abolishes the IRS). Either way a Flat Tax or an NRST is better than what we have now!


37 posted on 08/02/2004 6:30:11 AM PDT by Texas Patriot (Remember....Bunker Hill, The Alamo, Pearl Harbor and The WTC.....never forget HOORAHH!!!!!)
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To: downtoliberalism
I swear I was talking about this to a Swing Voter the other day.

I said Bush need to elimenate the IRS ans start a Sales Tax.

Hope this is true.

38 posted on 08/02/2004 6:30:17 AM PDT by agincourt1415 (Iraq has a fighting chance!)
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To: Always Right
I fail to understand how people get excited about a 30% national sales tax on top of what will need to be a 10% state sales tax.

Where did you get your numbers? It seems a little high.

The most exciting thing about flat tax is that it eliminates some non-productive work from our economy. Tax Preparation and Tax avoidance strategies are NOT productive at all. They don't add to our GDP. Those who work in this segment will have to shift to real productive work which should create a boom. Another thing about the flat tax, you no longer get penalized for risking capital. That alone would give a huge boost to our economy. Eliminating the IRS, tax code enforcement and court time should really cut down our government expenditures.

If this rumor is true, wait for people (way smarter than me) to analyze the pros and cons of the NST.

39 posted on 08/02/2004 6:32:06 AM PDT by John123 (Who is cuter, Kerry in a blue bunny suit or the Breck Girl?)
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To: lewislynn
Not quite. VAT is a tax added at each stage of the production/sales cycle. As such, it is a cumulative tax, and far more onerous than a simple national sales tax or any version of a ''fair''/flat tax.
40 posted on 08/02/2004 6:32:22 AM PDT by SAJ (Buy 1 NGH05 7.50 call, Sell 3 NGH05 11.00 calls against, for $600-800 net credit OB. Stone lock.)
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