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REPUBLICANS PLAN PUSH FOR ELIMINATION OF IRS
http://www.drudgereport.com/ ^ | XXXXX SUN AUG 01, 2004 21:01:25 ET XXXXX | Matt Drudge

Posted on 08/02/2004 5:57:43 AM PDT by downtoliberalism

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To: Always Right

>>Oh yes it does. The sales tax has the exact same problem. Everyone will try to make all expenses business expenses and not be subject to sales tax.

I disagree. Most states already have a sales tax and know how to implement and enforce it. If the tax is low enough, then it would be more effort than it was worth to try and circumvent the tax.


141 posted on 08/02/2004 1:22:21 PM PDT by BigAzzHam ("Ward, I think there's something wrong with the Beaver." - June Cleaver)
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To: undeniable logic; All

By the Way Hastert to talk to Hannity about his thoughts on Sales Tax on the Radio in a moment, TUNE IN, to Hannity Radio Talk Show NOW!


142 posted on 08/02/2004 1:25:10 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (5% Retail Sales Tax)
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To: agincourt1415

Damn, I missed it. What did he say? Is he going to be on the tv show tonight?


143 posted on 08/02/2004 2:02:54 PM PDT by undeniable logic
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To: BigAzzHam
I disagree. Most states already have a sales tax and know how to implement and enforce it. If the tax is low enough, then it would be more effort than it was worth to try and circumvent the tax.

The federal sales tax alone will be 30%. No one in history has every successfully implimented a 30% broad sales tax on goods and services. Avoidance will be huge. Studies in Europe suggest anything over 10% causes a significant amount of avoidance.

144 posted on 08/02/2004 2:20:56 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
Avoidance will be huge.

Avoidance is figured into the 23%/30% rate -- assumes equivalent to income tax avoidance (off the top of my head, I think that's roughly 15-20%).

There ain't no such thing as a tax system of any stripe where some people won't try to game or cheat the system. The fact that some poeple will try is not a good argument against a particular system.

145 posted on 08/02/2004 2:24:20 PM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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To: scubadan
Do you think its as simple as the clerk asking whether this is a retail (non-business) or business purchase and charging or not charging the tax?

If it is a retail business, you would not be asked.

Who will determine that the day care operator is honestly reporting the correct portion of the personal expenses and the correct portion of the business expenses.

The DayCare operator would not be asked.

146 posted on 08/02/2004 3:06:26 PM PDT by carenot (Proud member of The Flying Skillet Brigade)
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To: undeniable logic

I it was brief and I did not get to listen to all of it, but I think he said he was going to be on the show tonight.


147 posted on 08/02/2004 3:51:30 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (5% Retail Sales Tax)
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To: carenot
You need to read the proposed bills before you speak:

`(1) BUSINESS AND EXPORT PURPOSES- No tax shall be imposed under section 101 on any taxable property or service purchased for--

`(A) a business purpose in a trade or business, or

As a business owner, I can buy retail stuff used in my business and pay no sales tax.

148 posted on 08/02/2004 4:35:35 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: television is just wrong
Make the senate and house a non-paid position, and make these people get real jobs.

I like it, I like it!

Not practical, though; few folks could afford to take two, four or six years without earnings. If they had other jobs they could not devote the time required to their congressional duties. I think maybe a combination of term limits and strict accounting of (and recapture of the excess) money raised for campaigns would discourage those who are only there to line their pockets.

Make them go back and live under the laws they pass after their term of service ends.

As far as selling influence, all political donations should (by law) be anonymous. You can't sell if you don't know who is buying!

149 posted on 08/02/2004 5:36:23 PM PDT by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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To: JimRed

OOPS! I forgot the bonus! After the IRS goes away, a small number of the IRS staff can become the campaign contribution acceptance and distribution agency!


150 posted on 08/02/2004 5:39:39 PM PDT by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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To: JimRed

Most of these congress people are millionaires. They can work senate/house jobs part-time, and work a job in the private sector. It will be a 180 degree turn around. They would have to work in the real world. It would be a service job, and hold distinction, but lose some of that idea that they rule the free world. Any salary they would receive would be compensatory. Our founding fathers did not make a career out of setting up this country, they should not either.


151 posted on 08/02/2004 7:04:04 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: downtoliberalism

While this would be great if it did happen, radical change such as completely getting rid of the IRS just doesn't happen overnight. Start tearing down the pillars of Liberalism by gutting and doing away with such things as the NEA and NPR/PBS and then start aiming for the IRS. I believe at this point, doing away with the IRS is all but a lofty, yet, worthwhile goal to work toward.


152 posted on 08/02/2004 8:03:12 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Nobody But Bush | Kerry/Edwards: Re-inventing the we'll)
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