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LIVE THREAD: DEMCON -- DAY 4
www.freerepublic.com | July 29, 2004

Posted on 07/29/2004 10:32:33 AM PDT by Howlin

Live Convention Video, 7 - 11 p.m. ET
Sen. John F. Kerry
Max Cleland
Kerry's daughters, Alexandra and Vanessa Kerry
former Green Beret Jim Rassman
Madeleine Albright
Sen. Joe Biden (Del.)
Wesley Clark
Rep. James Clyburn (S.C.)
Sen. Joe Lieberman (Conn.)
Rep. Ed Markey (Mass.)
Rep. Juanita Millender-McDonald (Calif.)
Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D.C.)
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.)
Rep. Louise Slaughter (N.Y.)
John Sweeney, President of AFL-CIO
Gov. Mark Warner (Va.)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
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To: snarkytart

"I am glad you registered just yesterday to let us know all the bad news on Zogby, and to praise Kerry's speech..HMMMMMMMM"

Did you read what I wrote about the speech?? I said it was a good speech marred by poor delivery, and I stand by that. And in the bounce prediction thread, I said it would be a 5 point lead, just outside the margin of error. I'm out there working for the guy, but understand this is not going to be easy, and people like you that just go "the speech stunk...kerry's a loser" do no good for the campaign, whatosever.


4,841 posted on 07/29/2004 8:40:41 PM PDT by wisconsinbushvolunteer
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To: ArmyBratproud
MATTHEWS mentioned how he could not believe that Kerry would go out and say he is going to raise taxes.

Not to mention that privatizing social-security is critical in the Gen-X and Gen-Y collective mind. His support base has been seriously eroded.

Said he will raise taxes (loses 20% of support base).

Said he will not privatize social security (loses another 20%)

Said he will not allow outsourcing, waging war on pharmacueticals and international trade (loses another 20%)

Not intent on defending America (loses another 10% of his support base)

He's history.

4,842 posted on 07/29/2004 8:41:16 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Keep your kids safe; keep W in the White House.)
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To: cyncooper

Frank Luntz's groups are frauds.


4,843 posted on 07/29/2004 8:41:27 PM PDT by ambrose (Kerry is endorsed by the Communist Party USA)
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To: TomGuy
This was supposed to be a Convention to define Kerry and show America who he really is. To re-introduce him to the masses.

After 4 days, there is still that gap--what has Kerry accomplished in the last 19 years in the Senate?

All we know is that he served in Viet Nam. Ok. That was 35 years ago. What about the last 19 years?

Right ON, Brother!

4,844 posted on 07/29/2004 8:41:27 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: SE Mom

Please see my post #4810.


4,845 posted on 07/29/2004 8:41:27 PM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: 2rightsleftcoast

Hey the F bomb is on Drudge right now and I could hear the whole thing just fine! http://www.drudgereport.com/dnc.wav


4,846 posted on 07/29/2004 8:41:45 PM PDT by GVnana (Tagline? I don't need no steenkin' tagline!)
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To: Huber
Who's photo is that? A Kerry family member or just some celeb or model?

Alexandra Kerry wearing a see-through dress at the Cannes Film Festival that will undoubtedly be cluttering the political blogosphere this week ...

So much for Kerry's Family Values BS!


4,847 posted on 07/29/2004 8:41:49 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker (I predict a easy Bush landslide.)
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To: cyncooper

I'm not worried. The Dem's have owned the airwaves for four days. It's not called the post-convention bounce for nothing. Our time is coming...


4,848 posted on 07/29/2004 8:41:49 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Terrorists beware: most of the top US pistol shooters live in my area -- and my old man's one of 'em)
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To: snarkytart
Actually, Zogby gifts the dims at LEAST 2-3 points in all his early polls in my opinion. I never trust a Zogby poll anymore.

Just my opinion. What do the rest of you think of his polling?

Nam Vet

4,849 posted on 07/29/2004 8:41:52 PM PDT by Nam Vet (Arab nutball bumper sticker ..... "My other wife is a goat")
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To: Howlin
I have heard rumors that we have 527 organizations, too.

Well, we shall see.

And now, I am off to watch HGTV to lower my blood pressure.

By the way, I consider the attack on the President's faith the lowest of the low. I think I will send another donation to Bush/Cheney tomorrow.

4,850 posted on 07/29/2004 8:42:05 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: LisaMalia

SERENITY NOW!


4,851 posted on 07/29/2004 8:42:05 PM PDT by Hildy ( If you don't stand up for what's RIGHT, you'll settle for what's LEFT.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Watching Leno right now.


4,852 posted on 07/29/2004 8:42:20 PM PDT by pulaskibush (Now I know and don't know, and knowing and not knowing is half the battle- GI Kerry!)
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To: Torie

here's an interesting bit of speculation... if there was no 22nd Amendment, but Clinton retired in 2000 anyway... and he ran this year against Bush.... ??


4,853 posted on 07/29/2004 8:42:24 PM PDT by ambrose (Kerry is endorsed by the Communist Party USA)
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To: Palladin
I keep clicking on the "last" link on this thread but it just keeps on going ?!?

Will it ever end?


4,854 posted on 07/29/2004 8:42:28 PM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

If anyone wants to comment on the air, the Roger Fredinberg Show will be taking comments on the Kerry Speech in about 30 minutes. Talkone.com 18008505043

Bring it on! Lets Roll.

Ole Kerry ain't gonna get much of a bump from tonight's blah blahathon.

Historically you should get atleast 5 points, I bet Naders gets more of a bump than Kerry.


4,855 posted on 07/29/2004 8:42:33 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: AFPhys
Much of it can be countered with something like, "and just how is this going to be more effective than the president's very successful policies" or "you're smokin' dope if you think that will work."

In the latter category is his pledge to make us, "finally and forever independent of Mideast oil". Yeah, good luck with THAT one, BunnyBoy...

4,856 posted on 07/29/2004 8:42:43 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Has Kerry even BEEN to Harlem lately? It's being gentrified by up and coming black lawers, doctors, professors, and entrepreneurs. Why, it's even where Clintoon has his offices.

Someone on the DNC ought to shoot Kerry's speechwriter.


4,857 posted on 07/29/2004 8:43:08 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: ambrose

Frank Luntz is a joke. The group is really dull. They are trying to pull this thing out because if flopped tonight.


4,858 posted on 07/29/2004 8:43:08 PM PDT by Whataday
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To: cyncooper

Remember the guy on TV with those colorful sweaters who sold all sorts of crap? They'd show some slicer and then cut to the "audience" and all of the audience would be shaking their heads in amazement? Well, the audience was full of actors. What Luntz does is pretty close to the same.


4,859 posted on 07/29/2004 8:43:27 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Strategery - "W" plays poker with one hand and chess with the other.)
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To: Toespi

That would definitely be helpful, but if someone can pull an image from tonight's telecast there was a moment after Kerry finished his speech which could also prove VERY damaging with 'swing' voters, I think. Did anyone else notice when Al Sharpton was standing right behind Kerry, as Kerry was waving and glad-handing, and for just a couple of seconds Sharpton held up a poster which said "Boot Bush" with a large boot on it. I thought it was "off message" for the supposed "national unity" speech that Kerry was trying to give and showed, once again, the nasty vicious undercurrents of the left that never go away, no matter how much Kerry wants to pretend to move toward the center. That kinda garbage plays well with the left, but I would think there are millions of people "in the middle" who would be rather disgusted to see the image of Sharpton, Kerry, and the "Boot Bush" poster that Sharpton was holding over Kerry's shoulder. If the LSM were honest enough to show that image on every front page in America I don't think Kerry's propaganda would get anywhere with the "swing voters." Can someone get ahold of that image from the broadcast and circulate it?


4,860 posted on 07/29/2004 8:43:35 PM PDT by Enchante
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