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Chirac Says Sharon Not Welcome in France
AP ^ | 7/19/04 | PAMELA SAMPSON, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 07/19/2004 12:59:05 PM PDT by yoely

PARIS - President Jacques Chirac said Monday that the Israeli leader would not be welcome here until he gave a satisfactory explanation for saying Jews should go to Israel to escape anti-Semitism in France.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (news - web sites)'s remarks Saturday produced a storm of rebuke after he said French Jews were under threat by the nation's much larger Muslim community and should leave.

Sharon was considering a trip to Paris, but no date had been set.

"A visit by the Israeli prime minister to Paris ... won't be looked at closely until the requested explanation is provided," a presidential source said on condition of anonymity.

The sharp response by Chirac, the head of the French National Assembly and others caused Sharon to step back, with Israeli officials claiming the remarks were taken out of context. The Israeli officials also praised steps France has taken to stop a surge in violence against Jews.

Sharon's remarks — in which he said France was host to "the wildest anti-Semitism" — were misunderstood, said Jacques Revah, the charge d'affaires of the Israeli Embassy in Paris.

He said Sharon's comments to American Jewish leaders on Sunday in Jerusalem were only a way of telling Jews they belong in Israel. "Mr. Sharon had the same message for all Jews in the world, and if he pointed out France, it was to praise the position and the measures France has taken to combat anti-Semitism," Revah said.

Since the birth of the Jewish state, Israel has encouraged Jews to immigrate there to reclaim their ancestral land. But in the case of France, there is an especially complex interplay of politics and history.

Many Israelis speak French, admire France's culture, and recall the days when it was a close ally; France today, however, is widely seen in Israel as biased in favor of the Palestinians; and the French Jewish community — at 600,000 the third-largest in the world — tends to be strongly pro-Israel, creating friction with a Muslim population of almost 5 million.

France has a history of emblematic instances of anti-Semitism — such as the 19th-century trial of Alfred Dreyfus, a Jewish army captain framed by anti-Semitic conspirators — and of liberalism: French author Emile Zola's denunciation of that trial, entited "J'accuse," ("I accuse") stands as a watershed attack on anti-Semitism.

On Monday, Sharon's words were widely deemed scandalous and provoked widespread irritation within the prickly French political class.

The Foreign Ministry quickly issued a terse statement calling his remarks "unacceptable" and demanding an explanation. Jean-Louis Debre, president of France's lower house of parliament, went further, telling Europe-1 radio that the words are "inadmissible, unacceptable and, furthermore, irresponsible."

Even French Jewish leaders said Sharon's remarks did nothing to help the situation.

"These comments do not bring calm, peace and serenity that we all need," said Patrick Gaubert, president of the International League Against Racism and Anti-Semitism, told France-2 television.

In the past, Israel has castigated the French for not doing more to stem an upsurge in anti-Semitic acts blamed on young French Muslims using the Middle East conflict to justify their violence. The latest French Interior Ministry figures show 510 anti-Jewish acts or threats in the first six months of 2004 — compared to 593 for all of last year.

In response, France has beefed up security at Jewish institutions and enacted tougher punishments against anyone convicted of a crime motivated by anti-Jewish hate. But in a nation where French police files are burgeoning with reports of such crime, a sense of uneasiness and betrayal has some Jews questioning where they belong.

"Maybe I would move, I don't know," said Claude Chiche, a public school teacher in Paris. "It shocks me when I go to a synagogue to see the police officers there with guns. It's a hard thing to explain to my children."

According to Israel's Ministry of Immigration and Absorption, 7,024 immigrants have come from France since 2000 — from a low of 1,160 in 2001 to a high of 2,385 in 2002. For the first half of 2004, 647 French Jews immigrated.

Many Jews here think of themselves as French first and foremost.

"The French government has done a lot for us," said Nessim Barchichat of Paris. "The Jews in France have their space, they are very important here, they have their business, they are part of the country's economy and despite the attachment to Israel, they refuse to leave."

While French Jews were granted equal rights in the 18th century, they have also been subjected to severe persecution — particularly during the dark hours of World War II, when 75,000 Jews were rounded up from France and sent to Nazi concentration camps. Almost all died.

The French government failed to recognize its role in the Nazi extermination program until 1995, when Chirac became the first French president to publicly acknowledge and apologize for France's role in the Holocaust.

France's relations with Israel have been no less problematic.

France provided critical military help to Israel in the first years following independence in 1948, a relationship that hit a high point in cooperation when Israel fought with France and Britain to capture the Suez Canal after Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser nationalized it in 1956. France was then also a major supplies or arms to Israel.

But relations went downhill with the election of French President Charles de Gaulle, who was anxious to establish closer ties with the Arab world.


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KEYWORDS: arielsharon; france; frenchjews; israel; jacqueschirac
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To: Swanks

I actually don't feel welcome in France and I'm not going any more. I'd like to visit Prague.


41 posted on 07/19/2004 4:25:21 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Zhangliqun

Just who would want to spend any time in France with GIRLY MEN Anyway????


42 posted on 07/19/2004 4:26:29 PM PDT by getbillnow
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To: yoely
Chirac Says Sharon Not Welcome in France

Well DUH! Sharon is a Jooooooooooo....

43 posted on 07/19/2004 4:27:02 PM PDT by null and void (Middle East n. former name for the region commonly known as Oil Under Glass)
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To: yoely

Chirac probably isn't welcome in Israel either.


44 posted on 07/19/2004 4:57:31 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: cweese
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040719/ap_on_re_eu/france_israel_4
45 posted on 07/19/2004 5:03:51 PM PDT by BullDog108 (Know Your Enemy! http://bvml.org/webmaster/enemy.html)
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To: unspun
In all seriousness, I think the population of France should be sampled for the deleterious effects of imbibing alcohol during childhood. Alcohol poisoning affects judgment and conscience.

I can't think of two more dead-end, lethargic cultures than France and Russia. Both are know for their imbibing.

Even Iraq has a better future.

46 posted on 07/19/2004 5:11:33 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: yoely
One Example of my view on this: http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761568934_2/France.html#endads

Roman Catholicism is the dominant religion in France. More than 80 percent of the French population officially identifies with this faith, although only a minority claim to be practicing Catholics. About 5 percent of the population practices Islam, the second most popular religion. A small minority, about 2 percent of the population, is Protestant. Many Protestants fled France during the 16th and 17th centuries to escape Catholic persecution, and few parishes survived. About 1 percent of the population is Jewish. More than 10 percent of the people claim no religion.

That 5 percent is an explosion and growing. Sharon isn't the only one that has noticed what's really going on.

47 posted on 07/19/2004 5:20:33 PM PDT by tazman3
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To: Inyokern

But why on Earth would he want to come there? Just like GWB and NAACP - as nothing good was to be expected, he (like any reasonable person) did not go.


48 posted on 07/19/2004 5:22:31 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: FreeReign

Oh, come now! If all the Jews left, there wouldn't be any scapegoats for the Arab immigrants! (Sarcasm)


49 posted on 07/19/2004 5:34:21 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel
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To: yoely

So, how is this news?


50 posted on 07/19/2004 5:47:42 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (The Passion of the Christ--the top non-fiction movie of all time)
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To: Zhangliqun; KangarooJacqui; yoely; freedom44; MadIvan; tiger; faludeh_shirazi; TigerLikesRooster; ..
I see you're angling for a list.

Well, if I could get some musical accompaniment please...

There's:

Muhammed Khatami and Saddam Hussein.

Bin Laden's first cousin and the late Marshal Petain.

A roster of rogues to fill Madame Tussaud's

When you live to appease, that's just how it goes.

By the way, isn't the infinitive form of "appease" French by way of Latin?

Just curious.

I'm not a "master of etymology", in case you haven't noticed.

Just an apprentice.

51 posted on 07/19/2004 5:56:07 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("How do you get someone to stop taking drugs? In short, you don't.")
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To: yoely

Uh, Mr. Chirac. Hello? Is anyone home? Uh, Mr. Sharon is advising jews to LEAVE France not GO there. So why would the leader of this Jewish country be interested in visiting your God-forsaken country?


52 posted on 07/19/2004 6:09:02 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: yoely
this time I think that Chirac is totaly right.

You have got to be kidding. Since when does a head of state tell another recognized head of state they are not welcome in their country.

Sharon is exactly right to be telling Jews to get out of France. France is lost and the first victims will be the Jews. All the signs are there. Chirac is pandering to all the Muslims he knows are taking over his country. France is lost.

53 posted on 07/19/2004 6:12:19 PM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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To: SF Republican
"The Jews in France have their space, they are very important here, they have their business, they are part of the country's economy.
france's economy is going down hill faster then the french can wave a white flag or stab you in the back.
The Jews must be close to the only productive group left. france would slide further into a depression if they weren't around to exploit.
Soon the french will not allow them to leave but will compel them to stay and work for the greater glory of france."


Actually, the reflexive liberal response should be to brand them the evil rich, then tax them into utter poverty, then blame the right for their misguided policies.
54 posted on 07/19/2004 6:31:42 PM PDT by ConstitutionElgin
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To: yoely
Many Israelis speak French, admire France's culture, and recall the days when it was a close ally; France today, however, is widely seen in Israel as biased in favor of the Palestinians; and the French Jewish community — at 600,000 the third-largest in the world — tends to be strongly pro-Israel, creating friction with a Muslim population of almost 5 million.

Good riddance to this so-called ally France and its terrorist friends.

55 posted on 07/19/2004 6:31:47 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (Unite)
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To: Zhangliqun

Anyone who marches in with a gun and demands that they surrender.


56 posted on 07/19/2004 6:32:57 PM PDT by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/index.html)
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To: yoely

I think we should follow Chirac's example this time. I would like to see President Bush come out and say that Sharon is not welcome in the United States. But then again, we are above that.


57 posted on 07/19/2004 8:05:01 PM PDT by dmc8576 (High School Students for Bush - 325 members ....Students for Kerry - 20 members. ENOUGH SAID!!!)
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To: null and void

This is to funny


58 posted on 07/19/2004 8:09:30 PM PDT by Lori675
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To: Rutles4Ever

On the short list of who is welcome in France..."Zarqawi, Hussein, Osama, al-Zawahri..."

You forgot...

Kerry


59 posted on 07/19/2004 8:40:42 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: The Scourge of Yazid
You make a wonderful Julie Andrews. I like it :-)

BTW, found this in my quotes file:

The French polly-wogs had best watch it. Israel could kick their ass in forty-five minutes . . . and thirty of those would be spent trying to drag ChIRAQ out from under his bed.
--geedee, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/886042/posts

60 posted on 07/19/2004 8:49:08 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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