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Mo. High Court May Decide Whether Boy Can Be Circumcised
Kansas City Channel ^ | July 15, 2004

Posted on 07/16/2004 8:42:13 AM PDT by presidio9

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- For most little boys, circumcision is a decision for the parents to make. But the Missouri Supreme Court may make that decision for one local boy because his parents don't agree.

Two-and-a-half-year-old Ethan Azar's mother does not want to have him circumcised.

"There's no medical society in the world that recommends it, including the American Academy of Pediatrics," said Camille Azar.

But Ethan's father was recently granted sole custody. He wants his son circumcised. While the boy's father and his attorney would not appear on camera, they did cite personal, social and health reasons for wanting the circumcision, KMBC's Kelly Eckerman reported.

Circumcision removes the layer of skin covering the penis. It is something more and more parents are opting not to do, Eckerman said. The medical community calls it a personal decision.

"Everyone has their bias. But we try to base recommendations on sound medical evidence and it just isn't there to say yes or no," Dr. Ken Wible said.

Lower courts refused to intervene, so the case is now going to the Missouri Supreme Court to see if Ethan's father should be able to go ahead with the circumcision.

"The fact the courts have ruled he can make medical decisions doesn't mean he can make a decision to have part of the healthy living flesh of the child cut off," said Dennis Owens, Camille Azar's attorney.

Doctors did tell KMBC that Ethan's age is a factor.

"At that age, a child is going to need anesthesia," Wible said.

Camille Azar said that the decision should be up to her son when he's older.

"I want Ethan to make the decision about his own body," Camille Azar said.

Eckerman said that religion plays a role in some families' decisions about circumcision, but that has not been an issue here. The battle over Ethan's circumcision comes in the middle of a custody battle. A decision from the state's high court is expected within two weeks.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: anteaters; circumcision; cleanliness; mutilation; warheads
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To: Modernman
A lot of Southern girls have an issue with playing the skin flute.

Screw 'em. :-)

Seriously, almost makes me ashamed of being from the south.

181 posted on 07/16/2004 11:45:53 AM PDT by stands2reason (Kerry/Edwards: TERRORISTS FLEE FROM BETTER HAIR!!!)
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To: monday

Apparently BJ's are unavailable in Europe....

Maybe that's why they were all impressed with Slick...


182 posted on 07/16/2004 11:49:46 AM PDT by stands2reason (Kerry/Edwards: TERRORISTS FLEE FROM BETTER HAIR!!!)
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To: cyborg
I just don't know about some guys' relentless pursuit of oral.

It goes both ways. I have known women who have broken up with guys because they don't spend enough time going down.

183 posted on 07/16/2004 12:04:47 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: Bella_Bru

Well Lil Kim made her millions appealing to ladies with that chief comlaint. I'm willing to guess that guys like to get it and not give it.


184 posted on 07/16/2004 12:06:37 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Modernman
"Someone who has issues with oral sex probably also has other sexual hang-ups."

And a man who dates a woman only for the sex he thinks he can get isn't worth having.

185 posted on 07/16/2004 12:08:13 PM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: Xenalyte
I can find humor in damn near anything, and do. Now I'm laughing at you. See how easy that was? ROFLMAO! I've been laughing this whole thread. Guess Glenn isn't into 'happy Friday' yet.
186 posted on 07/16/2004 12:08:33 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: cyborg
Well Lil Kim made her millions appealing to ladies with that chief comlaint. I'm willing to guess that guys like to get it and not give it.

I have yet to meet any who don't want to give it, it's just how much time they want to give. Most are willing to go the distance and for that they are well thought of.

187 posted on 07/16/2004 12:11:13 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: MEGoody
And a man who dates a woman only for the sex he thinks he can get isn't worth having.

Who said anything about only? However, a relationship that doesn't work sexually for both parties probably won't last.

188 posted on 07/16/2004 12:15:04 PM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Xenalyte
And from THIS sort of creature you can expect "meticulous hygiene"? Not hardly.

If a woman is offering oral sex in exchange for washing the willy ? You better believe that the man will be keeping that thing as clean as possible.

189 posted on 07/16/2004 12:32:35 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Many a law, many a commandment have I broken, but my word never.)
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To: Servant of the 9

"The upside of that, is tremendous endurance."

No wonder women are for it then ...


190 posted on 07/16/2004 12:34:17 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: Centurion2000
If anybody offers oral sex to my barely 12-year-old, she is going to get the flippin' Wrath of Mom on her skanky little head. (The borderline delinquents in our neighborhood are all very afraid of me . . . with good reason.)

Seriously, if my Pig-Pen had not been tidied up at an early age, he would have been at serious risk from infections until he got old enough to be interested in what girls thought about his personal hygiene. That age is still just barely visible on the horizon.

191 posted on 07/16/2004 12:36:23 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: cyborg
I'm willing to guess that guys like to get it and not give it.

Guess again.

192 posted on 07/16/2004 12:39:35 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: presidio9

Let him make decisions to also:

Play in the street,
Go to school,
Eat his veggies,
Get smallpox vaccination,
When to be weaned,
And, lastly...
Whether to empty his diaper or not..........


193 posted on 07/16/2004 12:40:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: COEXERJ145

#6 may be gone, but the echo lingers!!!!!


194 posted on 07/16/2004 12:42:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie; xsmommy; Xenalyte; Constitution Day; Tijeras_Slim; Glenn

I think the Admin Mod threw up his hands at this thread a long time ago...


195 posted on 07/16/2004 12:45:12 PM PDT by presidio9 (FREE MARTHA)
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To: BikerNYC
Getting a boy to put soap and water on his hands is one thing...getting him to put soap and water on Mr. Johnson is quite another.

And, in the process, washes his hands as well!


WIN-WIN!!
196 posted on 07/16/2004 12:46:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: HamiltonJay

"Funny, several men I know who had circumcisions later in life have told me its far far far better since circumcision."

You know several men who have been circumcised later in life? I don't know of one. Do you discuss circumcision with every man you meet or something?


197 posted on 07/16/2004 12:46:53 PM PDT by monday
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To: presidio9
I think the Admin Mod threw up his hands at this thread a long time ago...

The mods aren't as stiff on Fridays.....

198 posted on 07/16/2004 12:47:25 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: presidio9

it is a nice little informative PSA.... : )


199 posted on 07/16/2004 12:49:49 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: cyborg
"I'm willing to guess that guys like to get it and not give it."

lol...well, I am the giving sort, but I'm willing to guess that most people, guys and girls, "like to get it and not give it."
200 posted on 07/16/2004 12:51:44 PM PDT by monday
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