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Capitola drafting beach-smoking ban
Santa Cruz (CA) Sentinel ^ | July 10, 2004 | RAMONA TURNER

Posted on 07/10/2004 8:11:20 AM PDT by The Other Harry

July 10, 2004

Capitola drafting beach-smoking ban

By RAMONA TURNER
Sentinel staff writer

CAPITOLA — The City Council has asked staff to draft a proposal that would lead to an ordinance prohibiting smoking at Capitola Main Beach and on the wharf.

At Thursday night’s council meeting, members pointed out that cigarette butts are not biodegradable and pose a significant health and environmental hazard.

"I went down to the beach on Father’s Day and saw a toddler sitting in the sand and pick up a cigarette butt and put it in their mouth," Councilman Bruce Arthur said.

Part of the ordinance could include lining the Esplanade with ashtrays, and working with owners to provide ashtrays outside Village-area restaurants.

While some council members expressed concern on how the ordinance would be enforced, Arthur said nonsmokers would help enforce it because they know the dangers of second-hand smoke.

Of course, a "realistically absurd" fine could help, too, he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: pufflist; smokingbans
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1 posted on 07/10/2004 8:11:21 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: The Other Harry

Toddlers would eat bird cr** if it is in front of them!!!! Kill all the birds!!!!!


3 posted on 07/10/2004 8:14:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: The Other Harry

Is that Capitola or Crapitola?


4 posted on 07/10/2004 8:18:51 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: The Other Harry

My mother lives in Capitola and has for years. While I have always enjoyed visiting the village, I could never live there. I have come close to beating the $hit out of a few of these liberal punks who like to get into other people's business and assert their rights. The only reason I didn't was that they were all pretty fast runners and were intelligent enough to recognize the danger inherent in a big Texas with fire in his eyes. Good thing, too, or I would probably still be in jail out there. I am older and somewhat wiser now, so I let their nonsense roll off my back and keep my visits short.


5 posted on 07/10/2004 8:20:08 AM PDT by Max Combined
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To: The Other Harry
"I went down to the beach on Father’s Day and saw a toddler sitting in the sand and pick up a cigarette butt and put it in their mouth," Councilman Bruce Arthur said.

Hey Brucey, old buddy, old pal, It could have been a rubber condom.

Consider the kid lucky.

6 posted on 07/10/2004 8:25:14 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Piquaboy

Crapitola right next to Insanity Cruz. Lived there for 16 years.


7 posted on 07/10/2004 8:27:45 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ ( Only two ways to return from the battle field, with the head of your enemy or without yours)
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To: The Other Harry
"...Arthur said nonsmokers would help enforce it because they know the dangers of second-hand smoke."

Typical Liberal clymer thought pattern....

Does that mean the City Council is authorizing me to deck each and every obnoxious drunken/drugged teenager with a foul mouth that disturbs my peace and quiet at the beach?

It appears that too many morons from Santa Cruz have moved to Capitola -- after they destroyed Santa Cruz with their Marxist governance..

Semper Fi

8 posted on 07/10/2004 8:28:48 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: The Other Harry
Here's a pretty scary line:

nonsmokers would help enforce it

Now they will have everyone "telling on" each other.

9 posted on 07/10/2004 8:29:43 AM PDT by EggsAckley ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Evita Rodham Clinton)
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To: EggsAckley

There's another article in today's Sentinel to the effect that Santa Cruz city is considering doing the same thing. I didn't want to over-post.


10 posted on 07/10/2004 8:33:06 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: G.Mason

Hey Brucey, old buddy, old pal, It could have been a condom.

Or a hypodermic needle.

11 posted on 07/10/2004 8:33:42 AM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: LisaMalia
"Or a hypodermic needle."

Right.

We wouldn't want mommy and daddy to share in the states responsibility for taking care of junior, or little missy now, would we?

Grrrrr ...

12 posted on 07/10/2004 8:42:08 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: EggsAckley
"Now they will have everyone "telling on" each other."

Hey Eggs, they (the elected trash) have been asking folks to rat out their neighbors for years.

Two simple rules that, if followed, would allow one to lead a rather peaceful existance ...

Mind your own business, and keep your hands to yourself.

13 posted on 07/10/2004 8:48:54 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: G.Mason
That said, cigarette smokers are slobs.
14 posted on 07/10/2004 9:28:44 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan
Any beachside city with any sense would impose heavy fines for the discarding of ANY trash on their beach. Such an ordinance would figure significantly into my own family's vacation planning.

Last week we took a week of vacation on the beaches of Sanibel and Captiva, and discovered to our dismay that the beaches were filthy with discarded garbage and cigarette butts. We won't be returning any time soon.

15 posted on 07/10/2004 9:37:20 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: The Other Harry
"I went down to the beach on Father’s Day and saw a toddler sitting in the sand and pick up a cigarette butt and put it in their mouth,"

Atrocious grammar aside, would this councilman feel any better if the toddler in question had picked up a dead fish and put it in her mouth? Fish ARE biodegradable, and probably constitute a far greater health hazard as they lay rotting on the sand. Gonna prohibit those too, PC-Boy?

16 posted on 07/10/2004 9:46:56 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Last Dakotan
"That said, cigarette smokers are slobs."

My dear young Freeper friend, as you get older, and a bit more wise, you may find that "slob" smokers may well be the least of your problems.

However, in the true spirit of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness", I certainly do hope that is the full extent of your lifes laments.

17 posted on 07/10/2004 9:51:29 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Baynative

... or if a roach had been picked up and swallowed -- "It's Organic! - would have been the supporting hue and bellow" And those near and around Capitola reading the reports of "roach eaten" would have stopped suspecting their dude pals of petty theft.


18 posted on 07/10/2004 9:56:35 AM PDT by Alia
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To: EggsAckley
nonsmokers would help enforce it

Yeah.. as part of their "anger therapy and management" programs.

19 posted on 07/10/2004 9:58:22 AM PDT by Alia
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To: mad_as_he$$

You survived. And then escaped. Congratulations!


20 posted on 07/10/2004 10:00:13 AM PDT by Alia
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