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Posted on 07/02/2004 10:22:06 AM PDT by JustPiper
Hey can you work on JR for eliminating the unwanted posts on thread 11 and giving it back to us for all the info?
I am sad he deleted the posts for that thread but killed our entire thread 11
Cash deal hhhhmmmmm
World News > Pakistan acquires Mirage fighters from Libya
Islamabad, July 5 (IANS) :
Pakistan has acquired 50 Mirage-3 and Mirage-5 fighters, 150 engines and innumerable spares for the aircraft from Libya in a cash deal whose value has not been specified.
http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/news/features.php?action=fullnews&showcomments=1&id=27094
TADA!
The "Tick" Hipshot ;)
OOOOOOOOO....
The "pinko-commie-liberal-bedwetting-crybaby-gimme-neurotic- psychotic-sociopathic-hateful-traitorous-seditious-stinkyfeet democrats, RAPPIN'" HipShot
Yes mam we have. Now they just posted a tornado watch
but ends the county just north of us. So maybe they
will stay there.
Any update Leila?
July 5, 2004
Jeremy Reynalds
P O Box 27693
Alb., NM 87125-7693
Tel: (505) 400-7145
www.joyjunction.org
Ascendancy in the Horror Stakes
While Islamic extremists have been making use of the Internet for a while, it's only recently with their demand letters and beheading pictures being disseminated on the Net that their fondness for this medium has become a topic of discussion.
One site administered by Hosting Anime continues to display the gruesome beheading video and still pictures of 33-year-old South Korean translator Kim Sun-Il. Another site hosted by the same company still shows pictures of engineer Paul Johnson after he was beheaded.
Whether sites like these should be allowed to stay on line is becoming a matter of serious contention. I'd like nothing better than to see them come down, but the misguided individual who apparently runs Hosting Anime says he plans to let them stay on line in the name of "free speech."
Other well meaning (but I believe equally misguided) people say that such sites should be left alone, because by so doing the intelligence community can monitor them and gain valuable information about who's visiting.
However, just how much useful information is actually gained from allowing these sites to stay on line is doubtful. That's because the vast majority are in Arabic (and the intelligence community is woefully short of Arabic speakers); false or hidden addresses are routinely given for Internet contact information and prolific use is made of cyber cafe's where activity is untraceable.
However, if you think that these sites should remain on line, here's something for you to think about. Is the information gained from monitoring these sites worth the price in terms of damage inflicted and even lives possibly lost?
Let me explain. As well as being used for covert communication, such terror sites, which are routinely full of splashy graphics, function as a morale booster.
A recent Aljazeera article talking about beheading and its visual dissemination ( http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/3567453C-FD1D-4FAC-A185-A2637E2B61BB.htm )
amplified my point.
"In war, ascendancy in the horror stakes can be a major battlefield gain. It gives people an enormous feeling of their own power that they can threaten this fate to their opponents," Professor Ian Robins, a London-based traumatic stress psychologist, told Aljazeera.
British psychologist Simon Meyerson added to what Robins said, telling Aljazeera in the same article, "The act also gives insurgents another advantage. In an age where wars are fought as much on TV as on the battlefield, they no longer need actual victories. The battle, says Meyerson, can be won with a single dramatic visual impact.'"
In addition to providing an essential sense of cohesiveness among disparate radical Islamic groups (perhaps resulting in more beheadings), there's another downside.
These sites can also provide just enough psychological impetus to encourage, say, a disenfranchised, testosterone driven young jihadi looking for "purpose" in life to seek training at a jihadi camp or even carry out a suicide bombing.
If they lack a computer at home, zealous young Muslims flock to the prolific cyber cafes which are all over Middle Eastern cities, where after spending hours poring over radical Islamic sites immersing themselves in rabidly anti-American rhetoric they're ready to go take on the world for Allah.
And let's face it. Radical Islamics don't need much encouragement to commit radical acts. They're already getting enough from the imams (Muslim pastors) in their Friday lunchtime services. In one visit to the Middle East, our group was told that Americans are advised to keep a low profile on Friday afternoons because the imams incite their flock with anti-American hatred. Consequently when the flock leave the mosque they're just looking for trouble. That Islamic hate site could be just enough to push them over the edge.
So if you still think these sites should remain on line in the name of "intelligence gathering," or "free speech," think about the lives which could be lost or devastated. They're more than "collateral damage."
July 5, 2004
Jeremy Reynalds
P O Box 27693
Alb., NM 87125-7693
Tel: (505) 400-7145
www.joyjunction.org
Virtual Memories
A faithful reader of my on-line perambulations got me thinking that with no thanks to Internet giant Yahoo, July 4 was a beautiful, terror free Independence Day.
As she put it, while Al-qaeda, Aeisha, OBL's Crew and others hoped to create havoc on America's birthday, their MSN was not accomplished.
If I was to tell the story on my Hosting Anime page, with help from my friends at EV1, I would picture Independence Day this way. It would be in my treasured Kool Pages albums. Hopefully Free Webs, 1 Free Hosting or perhaps Yahoo could hold all my memories.
When I wasn't eating great food and enjoying the day, I thought about 9-11 on 7- 4. I realized that while attacks could occur on 7-6, 7-11, 11-9 or even 1-_9, hopefully the American people are wise to the terrorists' activity now.
Of course, many times threats of such attacks are always cleverly packaged in obscure files like koria1.zip or wasaya_iraq.rm
I also thought about the new language I've learned the last couple of years since I really started delving into the shadowy world of radical Internet terrorism.
I now know words and names of which before I never even dreamed. There's alneda and qassam, and kataeb and ezzedeen. Then there's shariah and shareeah and daleel and EOM. Of course, we can't forget GIM, Abu Banan, Abu Hamza, shariah law, kaffir and apostates all words essential for the person who wants a complete and comprehensive understanding of radical Islam.
Finally, I thought about that all important Islamic victory chant Allah Akbaar essential to pleasing Allah while you are successfully decapitating non Muslims.
Once I'd finished considering my new vocabulary, I contemplated a few of the things I've experienced while researching radical Islamic terrorism on the Internet.
I thought back to just a few weeks ago when the individuals from jailed terrorist suspect Abu Hamza's web site Shareeah.org indignantly denied posting a video on their web site dubbed by some "Behead the Young Infidel."
Even though the video portrayed a "game" of sorts, it was a sick one not in the last comical. The participants in the video were young children who were staging a mock execution eerily reminiscent of the recent Kim Sun-Il and Nicholas Berg decapitations that attracted worldwide attention.
With that in mind, I'm staying away from the Hamas-oriented children's site www.al-fateh.net, which as terror researcher Aaron Weisburd of the Internet Haganah pointed out, has presented comic book type material designed to encourage children to engage in jihad and hurry toward an unholy fate(h).
I also recalled Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad's radical al-Muhajiroun group which a few months ago published a graphic image of the U.S. Capitol building in flames and more recently even went as far as to place a "gallery of apostates" on the group's Muhajiroun.com web site.
Browsing through the Internet Haganah site, I was also reminded of alsakifah.org hosted by Fastservers. The folk who run this Hamas affiliated site weren't content with just using Fastservers. They also proposed a "fast" serving trip to eternity, carrying an interview with assassinated Hamas leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin urging Iraqis to turn themselves into human bombs.
So if I had to choose between a memo from Islam at www.islammemo.cc or a note from Jesus at www.christianity.com, the choice is obvious. There's no contest. Christianity.com wins all the way.
Me too Davey, what Ma said
I don't know, the "stinkyfeet" part may by libelous.
JP, I did not have anything removed from TM, I just asked Jim to remove the stuff from the Dimensions thread.
Mine is coming along nicely. That is a keeper. Maybe even wallpaper grade :)
I will try, but I don't know where it started or ended for that matter. I'll need help in pointing out which ones, BUT not by way of this thread! We don't want to lose TM...too much work has gone into it!
No, the blackouts won't affect the border crossers.
Have you ever gone for a walk in the desert on a full moon night? It can be as bright as day.
The reason is to create terror and it will kill a few older people, I don't know the temp in Phoenix today, but about 110 degrees I would think. The temp at midnight, according to the paper was still 98 degrees, last night and that is as cold as it will go for nights there.
The first report had the transformers out in Sun City, that is the retirement community and it is huge, or it was 20 years ago.
The report said to cut back on electric and they would be able to supply part of the normal amounts. Link to story in post #1403.
AP news was talking about a Muslim School that was burned to the ground by militants, lost a 30,000 book library with copies or the oldest Quran. I couldn't catch where it was.
ma
Granny I beleive the school was in Pakistan.
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