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Spelling-bee protesters 'thru with through', the Seattle Times ^ | June 3, 2004 | Seattle Times

Posted on 06/29/2004 8:21:41 PM PDT by Spellfix

I am new to your forum, a spelling bee protester just getting around to answering some comments posted June 3 here: http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1146693/post My actual remarks are under Comment. Please email me if I'm putting the comment where the thread should be or vice versa. ramole@aol.com


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To: general_re
Spelling Reform

A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling

For example, in Year 1 that useless letter 'c' would be dropped to be replased either by 'k' or 's', and likewise 'x' would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which 'c' would be retained would be the 'ch' formation, which will be dealt with later.

Year 2 might reform 'w' spelling, so that 'which' and 'one' would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish 'y' replasing it with 'i' and Iear 4 might fiks the 'g/j' anomali wonse and for all.

Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants.

Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez 'c', 'y' and 'x' -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais 'ch', 'sh', and 'th' rispektivli.

Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

Mark Twain

21 posted on 06/29/2004 9:23:32 PM PDT by ScuzzyTerminator
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To: Spellfix; mhking

Welcome to FR. You may have picked the wrong forum though. Many of us here are fluent in that wonderful old "universal language" of Esperanto.


22 posted on 06/29/2004 9:29:46 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Spellfix
I don't agree that reading English is just "too hard" for 20-odd percent of people to learn. Part of the problem has been the rise in whole language taught in schools. Several of my Education Profs have mentioned that whole language produced poor spellers.

Who are these people who are illiterate? How many of them are citizens who have attended 12 years of public schooling? I'd be willing to bet the majority are illegal immigrants and children of illegal immigrants. The next largest group would probably be urban black kids to whom learning means acting white.

Then, of course, we do have people with language disabilities. THIS group is the only group which has trouble with the difficulty of the language itself. Such a large change for the population as a whole to accomodate a very small group of people is simply ridiculous.

23 posted on 06/29/2004 9:32:04 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: bayourod
Well, isn't that nice.

LOL. I wondered how long before this would start showing up on FR:') This is a joke, right? This is how the spelling challenged already write. They come out of high school this way. Those in prison that don't read well probably spell this way also. All you are doing is telling them it's ok. This is just another dumbing down idea, IMO.

24 posted on 06/29/2004 9:32:25 PM PDT by CindyDawg (guess I better use the spell check :'))
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To: Spellfix
Get ready for some more abuse, richly deserved.
What you are promoting is dumbing down a whole culture so you can feel better about yourself; or your mother or your son. Ain't gonna happen.

Self-esteem is a fraud perpetrated at intolerable cost to the normal majority. Excellence will always be with us. You cannot and should not bring everyone else down to feel better.
In my lifetime I have worked with excellent professionals who were either dyslexic or otherwise unable to spell even the most ordinary often used words. They did not focus on redefining normal. They simply excelled at what they could do and allowed someone else to deal with the spelling. In other words, they accepted their limitations, and did not attempt to persecute others to appear normal.

25 posted on 06/29/2004 9:49:34 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: Spellfix

eyem knot rilly cleer awn tha perpuss uv this psot...


26 posted on 06/29/2004 10:09:24 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (She says I don't listen, or something like that...)
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To: Spellfix
Well, SoundSpel drops silent letters ("no" not "know") and it spells long vowels (AEIOU) as AE (as in steak), EE (as in meet), IE (as in tried) and so on. Heer's a sampl. It is a litl shoking at ferst but being fonetic it's eezy with sum practis. Wuud U tri to reed it, to help a dislexic? To fiend out mor, see www.spellingsociety.org or www.americanliteracy.com/alc6.htm

Ebonics 4 de masses.

27 posted on 06/29/2004 10:15:27 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: mhking

A just damn candidate if I ever did see one.


28 posted on 06/29/2004 10:16:20 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: bayourod

29 posted on 06/29/2004 10:22:39 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Spellfix
Welcome to FR. I'm afraid I must dissent. The English language, while frustrating in both its inconsistency and its complexity, offers rich rewards to those for whom its proper employment constitutes a form of living art. I am not entirely convinced that simplification in the interest of accessibility doesn't remove a challenge that is beneficial to the child overall, and I do not think that a gradient of fluency from child to adult is in the least detrimental, albeit anathema to egalitarians.

I sympathize with the child for whom it seems an insuperable barrier to complete social intercourse, but for that child a carefully chosen vocabulary, properly employed, is no more difficult to master than common sums are when compared to integral calculus. It is the function of pedagogy to offer the child these subsets of overall vocabulary - for English, in excess of 100,000 words - in increasingly challenging forms until his or her needs are met. Forcing one mold on all is laziness; forcing too small a mold on all is cruelty.

30 posted on 06/29/2004 10:26:13 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

Yeah. What you said.


31 posted on 06/30/2004 12:22:39 AM PDT by MitchellC (No gamma rays for oil.)
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To: stylin_geek
II ges they want sumting teechers can teech.

Just wait until they get their grubbies on fractions....and move well away from airports.

32 posted on 06/30/2004 12:31:39 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Bring our foreign buried vets home, start with France, and let the French defend it next time.)
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To: mhking

Is this the best and brightest that the NEA can do?

Dumb down spelling?


33 posted on 06/30/2004 12:49:48 AM PDT by MonroeDNA (Hillary was in charge of the FBI files, which went into a data base: WHoDB. Genious hackers, expose)
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To: Spellfix

Illiterate prison inmates are just too dam lazy to be bothered with learning to read, write or speak coherently for the simple fact that their lives revolved around short cuts.

Short cuts is what put 95% of inmates in prison to begin with.

And here you are offering another.

You are an enabler of illiteracy and a small thinker.

And one more thing, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK WE CARE HOW THEY DO ANYTHING IN EUROPE!


34 posted on 06/30/2004 1:10:25 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: Spellfix; dighton; aculeus; general_re; L,TOWM; Constitution Day; hellinahandcart; Poohbah; ...

35 posted on 06/30/2004 5:09:39 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
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To: Spellfix
Let the freakin' kids be, would ya??? Just let them have their little contest!

Man, people would picket an effing rock if they thought it would give them some TV face time.

36 posted on 06/30/2004 5:12:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Spellfix
Well, SoundSpel drops silent letters ("no" not "know") and it spells long vowels (AEIOU) as AE (as in steak), EE (as in meet), IE (as in tried) and so on. Heer's a sampl. It is a litl shoking at ferst but being fonetic it's eezy with sum practis. Wuud U tri to reed it, to help a dislexic? To fiend out mor, see www.spellingsociety.org or www.americanliteracy.com/alc6.htm

Go away.

Quickly.

Or I shall be forced to dine upon you.


37 posted on 06/30/2004 5:17:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
This one is even more fun than your Nuke Paranoia thread.

Quick -- look out the window. Is there a full moon today???

38 posted on 06/30/2004 5:21:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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39 posted on 06/30/2004 5:24:19 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: Spellfix

u ned two bee moore care full wif yur spillin.


40 posted on 06/30/2004 5:24:54 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Drove my Jaguar to the Quagmire. But the Quagmire was dry.)
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