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REAGAN-LIKE LANDSLIDE EYED
New York Post ^ | 6/10/04 | DEBORAH ORIN

Posted on 06/10/2004 12:19:49 AM PDT by kattracks

June 10, 2004 -- NOW is a good time to look back at the landslide win that sent Ronald Reagan to the White House in 1980, because lots of analysts think 2004 could turn out the same way — close for a long time and then suddenly breaking wide open. In 1980, the break came just days before the vote, when Democrat Jimmy Carter finally agreed to debate. Reagan came off as sunny instead of scary and when he admonished Carter with a smile, "There you go again," it was all over.

Like President Bush, Carter faced voters nervous over both the economy and foreign policy and wondering whether it's time for a change — in Carter's case, skyrocketing inflation at home plus the endless Iran hostage crisis.

But there's a big difference, since Carter kept getting bad news on both fronts, while Bush is starting to get good news on both the economy, with a surge in new jobs, and Iraq, with international support for the June 30 transfer of power.


(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: landslide
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To: opus86

Takin' bets , the window is open !

Even money at this point 1:1

Odds may change in your favor after a debate if Skerry even shows up.


341 posted on 06/10/2004 4:40:57 PM PDT by Freesofar (" AHH.....SHUT UP ! ".... my favorite quote from president Ronald Reagan)
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To: nathanbedford

Works for me. In any case, Bush taking big democrat states like Cali, NY, NJ, CT, Ill and some others just isn't going to happen.


342 posted on 06/10/2004 5:28:18 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: counterpunch

"Rasmussen finds that only 39% will not vote for Bush under any circumstances, while 49% won't vote for Kerry under any circumstances."



No it didn't. According to the linked article, the number who said they wouldn't vote for Kerry under any circumstances was 39%, same as for Bush.

But that being said, Bush will get between 52%-56% of the vote and between 340-420 electoral votes.


343 posted on 06/10/2004 9:34:59 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: kattracks
Bump for later. Time for bed. G'nite, all.
344 posted on 06/10/2004 11:02:37 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic. (R.I.P. harpseal))
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To: ThanhPhero

Great thoughts on the centrality of Christianity to current world civilization. Christianity is really the only one of all the religions that offers a sense of redemption for sins - not even Judaism does that. Somehow I think that frees Christians to trust others in economic transactions, though I am at a loss to further explain this hunch.

"The Chinese, for all their great flowering of enterprise are still pretty much stuck with the ruler's businesses and family businesses. The great Chinese businesses outside of China proper hit ceilings where they need to take on foreign CEOs or Financial officers and it doesn't work. The Family cannot learn to trust the foreigner and the foreigner cannot work well in such a milieu."

I worked for billionaire Cyrus Tang, richest asian American. Cheap bastard. I was writing software to manage his $30 million petty cash stock market position, but his white CFO couldn't handle paying the last $500 of the first installment. As you state, "the Family cannot learn to trust the foreigner"


345 posted on 06/10/2004 11:53:13 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: counterpunch

"The only thing that discourages people from doing harm to others is the rule of law"

That is demonstrably false, religious morality has ruled many places where the law of the state does not reach.


346 posted on 06/10/2004 11:57:15 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: counterpunch

"So you mean to tell me that Germany was not Christian, but in fact occultists? "

You better believe it. What do you think all that Wagnerian opera was about? Ride of the Valkyrie etc. weren't Christian hymns.

"And you accuse me of ignorance? "

Well, you leave yourself open.


"And I am aware that they didn't kill just non-christians. Aside from gypsies and jews they also killed homosexuals.
...But no Christian fundamentalist would ever advocate that, right?"

Plenty of Christian fundamentalists on this site, why don't you point out the hive of posts calling for the execution of homosexuals. Condemnation, yes, opposition, yes, execution - not that I've seen.


347 posted on 06/11/2004 12:13:44 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: zbigreddogz

I like the Dole analogy - pompously arrogant and not showing much inner fire about what your base really cares about.


348 posted on 06/11/2004 12:31:54 AM PDT by 185JHP ( "Who is this King of Glory? The Lord strong and mighty, invincible in battle.")
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To: Christian4Bush; WinOne4TheGipper
Exactly, it's all part of his strategery ;).
But seriously, they never expected him to get elected governor of Texas, or get re-elected as governor. They all banked on McCain in the primary. They thought he'd get killed in the debates with Al Gore. They never expected he'd survive the drunken driving charges. He got his tax cut passed. He exceeded their expectations as a war president after 9-11. They thought they'd make gains in the mid-term elections. And he has far surpassed them in fundraiser. They couldn't even unseat his brother as governor of Florida when the DNC made him their number one target.
So I guess if I had to ask the Democrats anything, it would be this; If George W Bush is so stupid and incompetent, like they keep saying he is, how come they keep losing to him?
349 posted on 06/11/2004 12:35:32 AM PDT by Hostile (Freedom is not the sole prerogative of a chosen few; it is the universal right of all God's children)
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To: counterpunch

"Of course the nihilist simply snickers at your preoccupation with being morally superior to begin with."

Say I become an atheist. Say I decide I don't like you, I track you down and kill you. As an atheist, you are gone, poof. As an atheist, I could care less.

As a thinking atheist, this course of events must hold no moral advantage or disadvantage over any other state of affairs.

Conseqently, if you argue FOR your continued existence, I would argue that you are subconsciously also arguing FOR a higher state of morality, and the existence of God if you will. Morality consequently is a theistic argument, no matter how you might twist in the wind trying to be a nihilist.


350 posted on 06/11/2004 12:37:02 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: LibLieSlayer
I agree that he needs a mandate in one regard and one regard only.

Maybe then we can get some conservative judges put on the bench .

But maybe I'm daydreaming there too? Even with a landslide the nadless wonders that are our repub leadership in the senate will still roll over for the Dems buly tactics!

351 posted on 06/11/2004 12:38:46 AM PDT by freethinkingman
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To: kattracks

They forget Carter was not only getting bad news, he was also blaming the bad news on the United States as a nation and the people as a nation. He was basically telling us he was smarter than us because he figured out the people were the problem holding the government back.

Reagan came in and with the revolutionary (old) notion that the government was the problem holding the people back.


352 posted on 06/11/2004 12:45:37 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: mwl1

keeping him low key is not a strategy to win. The only nation that believes greatness is achieved by running away and hiding is the French. Ironic that Kerry has French ancestry.


353 posted on 06/11/2004 12:48:45 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: nightdriver

The ivory tower elites are lining up to vote for kerry. They are pushing the premise that to be ANY religion is to be intellecutally inferior. Thus they seek to define all that is not socialist as "religious opposition" and not to be taken serious. IOW they want to treat all non-democrat voters as mentally disabled.

I really believe fraud will be enginieered into Democrats election strategy. They will use manually entered "provisional" ballots thus bypassing the restictions of computer systems and registered voter lists.

It is why poll watchers and Poll workes are so important.

BTW to ALL South Florida has a poll worker shortage they are begging for people to help in primaries and during the election.


354 posted on 06/11/2004 12:59:26 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: FastCoyote
Somehow I think that frees Christians to trust others in economic transactions, though I am at a loss to further explain this hunch.

Torah details how people are to treat one another' that a man's word should be his bond, which Jesus repeats and amplifies, and that one is to treat the foreigner the same way. Contrast that with Quran wherein it says that it is legitimate to lie to the infidel to gain something from him.

355 posted on 06/11/2004 4:28:15 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Ong la nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: little jeremiah

Chesterton. I should have known. Thanks


356 posted on 06/11/2004 4:45:23 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Ong la nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: little jeremiah

Chesterton. I should have known. Thanks


357 posted on 06/11/2004 4:52:57 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Ong la nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: counterpunch

The headline on my MSN homepage
right now:

"Poll: Kerry leads Bush by 7 pts."

Despicable headline/story, based
exclusively on the LAT "survey.


358 posted on 06/11/2004 4:58:43 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: txrangerette

"survey"


359 posted on 06/11/2004 4:59:34 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: counterpunch
Well johnb838, (or should I call you Robert Byrd?) you are absolutely full of #!%&*#!.

You're just full of anger aren't you.
360 posted on 06/11/2004 5:26:07 AM PDT by johnb838 (When I hear "Allahu Akhbar" it means somebody is about to die.)
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