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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Nine
Yahoo News ^ | 5-30-04 | DONNA ABU-NASR AP

Posted on 05/30/2004 12:05:02 AM PDT by JustPiper

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"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"

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KHOBAR, Saudi Arabia - Tens of American, European and other hostages were released Sunday and a gunman believed to be the lead Islamic militant holding them was arrested, a Saudi security official said, adding that two other gunmen were "in the process of being arrested."

We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the enemy who wishes to do us harm



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To: cgk
We lived in Philly for a year and a half, up until the summer of 2001. It was my first introduction to "muslims", and it wasn't a good one, it was quite personal and nasty. These audio cassettes creep me out as well.

My hubby went to a gun show near Philly shortly after 9/11 and was creeped out at the number of muslims there

He said the wifes were the ones that were purchasing the guns

1,221 posted on 06/02/2004 9:40:33 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Mo1
From that article, another link at the bottom. This is the same one as above, yes? (still catching up here, sorry)...
Missing tankers: FBI Concerned
1,222 posted on 06/02/2004 9:40:57 AM PDT by cgk (Rumsfeld: Our task, your task... is to try to connect the dots before something happens.)
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To: All

Lord and Taylor is also directly across from City Hall. One of the entrances is at Juniper.

Lord and Taylor has the famous statue of the Eagle on the first floor.


1,223 posted on 06/02/2004 9:43:34 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: cgk

Sometimes they do, but that's more common after something succeeds.

At times it's like they are amused that we are concerned. Other times they get into a serious discussion. It's really hard to say.

In this particular post, there is only one response so far.

Someone named Hassan said: "Oh Allah destroy them by their own hands"


1,224 posted on 06/02/2004 9:43:34 AM PDT by StillProud2BeFree
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To: cgk; freeperfromnj; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; DAVEY CROCKETT

Fair enough...

There is a big difference in comparing dates in history and using minutes/days/seconds/days flipped around equaling other days/etc to try to guesstimate something.

I believe that it is highly possible that certain dates are chosen to correspond to previous events on that day (I think this is where we get the idea of "holidays"). It is also highly possible that you can take any date and "pick and choose" events to fit into an overall larger, but quite possibly, misleading picture.

That said, numbers are such an easily manipulated entity, it is hard to put much credence in anything they "tell you" about a future event. Also, you have to remember that you are focusing on numbers that MAY have a meaning to you (the westerner) while meaning absolutely nothing to those of other cultures.

IF you want to focus on numbers, focus on religiously significant numbers to Islam. 1, 19, 40, and others.

I highly doubt that AQ planners are sitting around with calculators deciding when 1001 days, 100,000,000,001 seconds, and etc. is from their last attack in order to plan a future attack.


1,225 posted on 06/02/2004 9:44:18 AM PDT by nwctwx
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To: nwctwx
The number game, however fun, is quite meaningless.

It may or may not be - I'm pretty much going with a gut feeling on this one.

1,227 posted on 06/02/2004 9:45:23 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: jerseygirl
Lord and Taylor has the famous statue of the Eagle on the first floor.

Isn't there also offices in there??

I think I remember a friend mentioning his office was in there .. he's an Army Corps Engineer

1,228 posted on 06/02/2004 9:46:25 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Mo1
My hubby went to a gun show near Philly shortly after 9/11 and was creeped out at the number of muslims there.

He said the wifes were the ones that were purchasing the guns

Doesn't surprise me... Here's what happened to me. I was on a bus to work a few months into living there. It was crowded, I was standing. I shifted as more people piled on and inadvertently stepped on someone's foot. I looked over and then down, apologizing profusely to a little girl who I discovered was the one standing beside me. She looked at me then her mom, in full Muslim dress, who said to the little girl "...she grow up and kill you...". I can't remember the first part of what she said, but I was absolutely blown away.

I went into work and asked a girl who had lived in Philly forever what it was all about - I wasn't even sure if the woman was Muslim. The girl told me it was "unusual" because they're normally "nice people who keep to themselves."

I never found out what she thought of 9.11.

1,229 posted on 06/02/2004 9:46:30 AM PDT by cgk (Rumsfeld: Our task, your task... is to try to connect the dots before something happens.)
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To: nwctwx
"I highly doubt that AQ planners are sitting around with calculators deciding when 1001 days, 100,000,000,001 seconds, and etc. is from their last attack in order to plan a future attack"

I agree, they don't use calculators, they use fingers. When they don't have enough they just cut a few more off the infidels.

1,230 posted on 06/02/2004 9:47:33 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: JustPiper

... but Muslims don't do this, they're the "religion of peace."

/sarcasm off.


1,231 posted on 06/02/2004 9:48:48 AM PDT by JellyJam
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To: Mo1

Thank you for the pic.


1,232 posted on 06/02/2004 9:48:56 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: cgk

Dear cgk.

AQ clearly craves the destruction of our symbols of freedom.

However, I'm more inclined to think that the cassette would point to a location a bit closer to City Hall and somewhat less secure than the Liberty Bell, etc.


1,233 posted on 06/02/2004 9:49:38 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: freeperfromnj; nwctwx

The terrorists are big into numbers...911 is a perfect example. June 8 is a Tuesday and the 11th is a Friday.

I go with my gut feeling as well, but all these events are telling me something big is on the horizon. I just hope we can stop it.


1,234 posted on 06/02/2004 9:50:53 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (The RIGHT of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.)
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To: cgk
who said to the little girl "...she grow up and kill you...". I can't remember the first part of what she said, but I was absolutely blown away

Gee .. what a lovely thing to say .. / sarcasm >

One thing I don't miss about Philly is riding on Septa .. ain't nothing like taking an A Local through some of the worse neighborhoods to get home from work

Nope .. don't miss it at all

1,235 posted on 06/02/2004 9:51:41 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: nwctwx
I may have misunderstood your original post... the numbers I thought you were mentioning, and I was then talking about were dates in history... While it is strange that 3/11 was 911 days after the original 9/11, I tend to agree with you that counting out days, hours and seconds is more of a stretch. I guess because they strike me as more historically symbolic than just symbolic. (I hope I am not inaccurately paraphrasing).

IF you want to focus on numbers, focus on religiously significant numbers to Islam. 1, 19, 40, and others.

See.. this is where I am always getting lost. I can't understand their calendar for the life of me.

1,236 posted on 06/02/2004 9:51:46 AM PDT by cgk (Rumsfeld: Our task, your task... is to try to connect the dots before something happens.)
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To: cgk

Yes- Philly WAS packed with Muslims. They were far less obstrusive after the warning to "flee" DC, NY, LA and "the East side."

Now- how can I get my daughter to flee? At least for several weeks? :(


1,237 posted on 06/02/2004 9:51:56 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: jerseygirl

Thanks for the list. It's been about 15 years since I visited Philly. Now that you mention it I remember the Mall there as well.

The AQ threat that the Liberty Bell will melt is even more ominous when you add all these incidents together.


1,238 posted on 06/02/2004 9:53:02 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: StillProud2BeFree

Thank you... I was sitting here imagining a bunch of jihadis at their pc's ... reading about missing tankers and cackling while rubbing their hands together. LOL! Though we all know they might be about something else.


1,239 posted on 06/02/2004 9:53:22 AM PDT by cgk (Rumsfeld: Our task, your task... is to try to connect the dots before something happens.)
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To: Domestic Church
Phosgene gas is colorless and smells like moldy hay. I'm not certain of its heavier/lighter than air characteristics. Phosgene oxime is heavier than air and is an explicitly manufactured chemical warfare agent.

Chlorine gas varies from colorless at low concentrations to a bright yellow gas in pure form. It is heavier than air. The Germans preferred phosgene to chlorine as it generally killed within 48 hours. Both chlorine and phosgene gas were deployed against trenches, often mixed together. That implies both are heavier than air.

Anhydrous ammonia is heavier than air as well. Ditto for sarin and soman. That's how Saddam nailed the Kurds. The passing of military aircraft drove people into their basements to hide from bombs and gunfire. The aircraft made another pass with nerve gas bombs. The gas went to the lowest spots...the basements...and killed 5,000 Kurds.

1,240 posted on 06/02/2004 9:54:27 AM PDT by Myrddin
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