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U.S. journalist wants war to failEditors believe it would ensure 'evil' Bush ousted
Worldnet Daily ^ | May 15, 2004 | WND

Posted on 05/14/2004 11:24:22 PM PDT by LifeTrek

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

A British reporter says a U.S. journalist in Baghdad told him she wants to see more Iraqis die so President Bush will be thrown out of office in November.

Toby Harnden, Middle East correspondent for the London Daily Telegraph, said he engaged in the conversation while taking a break by the pool at the Al-Hamra Hotel in the Iraqi capital.

In an opinion piece for the Spectator magazine of Britain, Harnden said at poolside he "was accosted by an American magazine journalist of serious accomplishment and impeccable liberal credentials."

The American journalist told Harnden she had been disturbed by his argument that Iraqis were better off now than under Saddam Hussein.

Harnden said he heard from her the usual "script" from antiwar activists, "no WMD, no 'imminent threat' (though the point was to deal with Saddam before such a threat could emerge), a diversion from the hunt for bin Laden, enraging the Arab world, etc."

But the American then came to her point, Hernden said.

"Not only had she 'known' the Iraq war would fail but she considered it essential that it did so because this would ensure that the 'evil' George W. Bush would no longer be running her country.

"Her editors back on the East Coast were giggling, she said, over what a disaster Iraq had turned out to be. 'Lots of us talk about how awful it would be if this worked out.'"

"Startled by her candor," said Herndon, "I asked whether thousands more dead Iraqis would be a good thing."

The British journalist said, "She nodded and mumbled something about Bush needing to go."

He then suggest to her that by this logic another Sept. 11 attack, on about Sept. 11, would be perfect for pushing up John Kerry's poll numbers.

"Well, that's different — that would be Americans," she said, haltingly, according to Harnden. "I guess I'm a bit of an isolationist."

In his column, Harnden then commented on the "moral degeneracy of these sentiments," concluding with:

"Whatever we thought about the war before it was launched, it is imperative that the forces of Arab nationalism and Islamism that now threaten to destroy Iraq are defeated. If America fails in Iraq it will be all of us in the West, not just Bush, who will suffer. But those who would be most in peril, of course, would be the Iraqis, who deserve better than to have their country treated as an electoral playground by the American Left or Right. To wish otherwise is as sick as the grins on the faces of the Abu Ghraib torturers."


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KEYWORDS: fools; justdamn; liberalmedia; media; mediashillforkerry; mediashillsforkerry; treason
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To: LifeTrek

Newsweek?...Time?...This woman is an enemy of our troops, an enemy of the Iraqi people and my enemy and there are just so MANY of them...She wants America to fail because of Bush?..What hatred, what ignorance.


81 posted on 05/15/2004 4:09:44 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Travis McGee
I have nothing against the establishment of hasty people's courts and after conviction, a summery execution, but cigarettes? Maybe a slice of grapefruit or a spoonful of yogurt with granola topping for the lefties.
82 posted on 05/15/2004 4:23:42 AM PDT by Leisler (The Democrats. The nation's oldest organized crime family.)
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To: LifeTrek

"Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth in their military chest; with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.

At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide."

---Abraham Lincoln


83 posted on 05/15/2004 4:31:59 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Her definition of "religious terrorism" is comprehensive, encompassing the growing Muslim jihad in Indonesia, Thousands of them

militant Palestinians thousands of them

and zealous Israelis, Self-defense--the Palis are trying to kill them all

and Americans who kill abortion doctors in the name of Christ. One.

84 posted on 05/15/2004 4:41:44 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: rdb3

Any idea what that would be in today's dollars?


85 posted on 05/15/2004 4:43:20 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: Diogenesis; snopercod

FYI


86 posted on 05/15/2004 5:21:41 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: blanknoone

In case you missed this.


87 posted on 05/15/2004 5:25:50 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: joesnuffy

Soulmate?


88 posted on 05/15/2004 5:33:02 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: ladyinred

any idea as owho this might be?

a well know journalist with impeccable liberal credentials?


89 posted on 05/15/2004 5:39:42 AM PDT by boxsmith13
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To: MEG33

Meg, you've been around here a lot longer than me...who are the research gurus who manage to find out every secret that ever was?

We need to start a quest to find out who it was...if we could put a name to the quote...I bet with enough pressure we could get her fired.


90 posted on 05/15/2004 5:47:44 AM PDT by blanknoone (How many flips would a flip-flop flop if a flip-flop could flop flips?)
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To: blanknoone

Right..one month longer LOL! This needs someone who stays at the hotel in Baghdad to really know..! I think it would be impossible to do anything but speculate. It is the kind of thing so many believe. Backhoe has a lot of files on subjects for reference.Many do archive articles but I don't know who could research this. Carl of Newsmax?


91 posted on 05/15/2004 5:54:12 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Travis McGee
I heard that too! Then, a woman caller from San Diego said teachers had shown the Nick Berg video and then proceeded to tell students that Bush and Cheney were to blame. Did I get that right?
92 posted on 05/15/2004 6:09:20 AM PDT by hobson
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To: LifeTrek

"I said this before, but I really hope this "supposed" 50/50 election is an American blowout, giving the anti-American Democrats a wake up call letting them know that Americans are sick of their tearing down everything in this country. Of course these media elite would be completely dumbfounded and at a loss for an explanation."

It's the only way this country will be able to get back on it's feet. Landslide for Bush 2004


93 posted on 05/15/2004 6:11:54 AM PDT by BillyCrockett
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To: LifeTrek
How can we get America to see them for what they are?

Pray. Seriously. I pray every day that God will grant wisdom to the voters on election day. I don't pray for people to make a particular choice, just that God will give them the wisdom to make the right choice.

94 posted on 05/15/2004 6:38:24 AM PDT by alnick (Mrs. Heinz-Kerry's husband wants teh-rayz-ah your taxes.)
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To: Travis McGee
This country is heading for CW2 (or DW1) it's just a matter of time.

Yep. All of the signs are there and getting worse by the day.

BTW, what is "DW1"?

95 posted on 05/15/2004 6:57:02 AM PDT by Mulder (Fight the future)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive
Hearsay and unnamed sources....don't we usually dismiss these things at FR?

I do. They should either name the woman or not go with the article.

I have no doubt that many on the left, and certainly in the media, are rooting for our loss in Iraq, but I'm not so sure this conversation ever happened.

WND, like Newsmax, IMO is way too tabloidy for my taste. They could be credible if they would turn down the sensationalism a few hundred notches.

96 posted on 05/15/2004 6:58:25 AM PDT by alnick (Mrs. Heinz-Kerry's husband wants teh-rayz-ah your taxes.)
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To: Southack

"Wishing for an American military *defeat* in order to overthrow an American President is tantamount to treason."

With a little modification, this makes a great Tagline.


97 posted on 05/15/2004 7:09:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Wishing for an American military *defeat* in Iraq to defeat President Bush is treason!)
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To: LifeTrek

Who was the magazine columnist?: Eleanor Clift or Margaret Whatshername?


98 posted on 05/15/2004 8:14:41 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: risk

Wow, that's an oldie but a goodie! Talk about a serious bikini waxing!


99 posted on 05/15/2004 8:20:35 AM PDT by olde north church (We remained civilized - Epitaph, United States of America)
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To: LifeTrek

The racism in such comments and thinking is typically liberal. Rather ironic that they claim moral superiority regarding racism. They have a beam in their eye regarding their own racism.


100 posted on 05/15/2004 8:27:40 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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