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U.S. journalist wants war to failEditors believe it would ensure 'evil' Bush ousted
Worldnet Daily ^ | May 15, 2004 | WND

Posted on 05/14/2004 11:24:22 PM PDT by LifeTrek

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

A British reporter says a U.S. journalist in Baghdad told him she wants to see more Iraqis die so President Bush will be thrown out of office in November.

Toby Harnden, Middle East correspondent for the London Daily Telegraph, said he engaged in the conversation while taking a break by the pool at the Al-Hamra Hotel in the Iraqi capital.

In an opinion piece for the Spectator magazine of Britain, Harnden said at poolside he "was accosted by an American magazine journalist of serious accomplishment and impeccable liberal credentials."

The American journalist told Harnden she had been disturbed by his argument that Iraqis were better off now than under Saddam Hussein.

Harnden said he heard from her the usual "script" from antiwar activists, "no WMD, no 'imminent threat' (though the point was to deal with Saddam before such a threat could emerge), a diversion from the hunt for bin Laden, enraging the Arab world, etc."

But the American then came to her point, Hernden said.

"Not only had she 'known' the Iraq war would fail but she considered it essential that it did so because this would ensure that the 'evil' George W. Bush would no longer be running her country.

"Her editors back on the East Coast were giggling, she said, over what a disaster Iraq had turned out to be. 'Lots of us talk about how awful it would be if this worked out.'"

"Startled by her candor," said Herndon, "I asked whether thousands more dead Iraqis would be a good thing."

The British journalist said, "She nodded and mumbled something about Bush needing to go."

He then suggest to her that by this logic another Sept. 11 attack, on about Sept. 11, would be perfect for pushing up John Kerry's poll numbers.

"Well, that's different — that would be Americans," she said, haltingly, according to Harnden. "I guess I'm a bit of an isolationist."

In his column, Harnden then commented on the "moral degeneracy of these sentiments," concluding with:

"Whatever we thought about the war before it was launched, it is imperative that the forces of Arab nationalism and Islamism that now threaten to destroy Iraq are defeated. If America fails in Iraq it will be all of us in the West, not just Bush, who will suffer. But those who would be most in peril, of course, would be the Iraqis, who deserve better than to have their country treated as an electoral playground by the American Left or Right. To wish otherwise is as sick as the grins on the faces of the Abu Ghraib torturers."


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To: LifeTrek
U.S. journalist wants war to failEditors believe it would ensure 'evil' Bush ousted

Ok, show of hands - Who here didn't think that this was part of the lamestream media agenda?

Anyone? Anyone at all?

It must be a slow news day for WND because, IMO, this is just not a news story.
61 posted on 05/15/2004 1:09:55 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: Sodbuster; Travis McGee; archy; rdb3
What are you, I, and the rest of America going to do about it? I agree with you, but what to do?

Just what we're doing.

  1. Excercise your 2nd amendment rights. The more legitimate firearms expertise and ownership there is out there, the resistant the whole bill of rights is to tampering. It's that simple: what's protected protects itself and others much better.
  2. Keep participating here on FR.
  3. Vote your conscience in November.

62 posted on 05/15/2004 1:18:50 AM PDT by risk
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To: risk
Excercise your 2nd amendment rights. The more legitimate firearms expertise and ownership there is out there, the resistant the whole bill of rights is to tampering. It's that simple: what's protected protects itself and others much better.

That's right. And I don't miss.


63 posted on 05/15/2004 1:27:15 AM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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To: risk
It is they who will fire the first shot. They've already said they would. If there's anything we have learned from 9/11 and from the Holocaust, it's that one should believe it when someone says he aims to do you and your country harm.

Hmmmmm... I think if it came to that, then wherever the new Ft. McHenry will be, it will not be "fired upon" by American leftists. It will be attacked by al Qaida, helped in some way by a leftist group behind the scenes. Leftists themselves are too cowardly to actually carry out massive terrorist or warmaking attacks themselves. (Except for a few ELF types maybe.) But quietly facilitate an al Qaida cell to plant some bombs? That would be very believable.

64 posted on 05/15/2004 1:28:48 AM PDT by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: jennyp; rdb3; Travis McGee; archy; Squantos; Molly Pitcher; Grampa Dave
the new Ft. McHenry will be, it will not be "fired upon" by American leftists. It will be attacked by al Qaida, helped in some way by a leftist group behind the scenes.

Jenny, first I like your analogy of Ft. McHenry better. A foreign power attacked us on our own land -- again. Second, I agree -- terrorism (hidden, faceless violence) will be the weapon of choice by the left. But we will be watching. The Revolution will not be televised. But the counterrevolution will be!


Our Flag is Full of Stars...

65 posted on 05/15/2004 1:38:04 AM PDT by risk (NBC will not be able predict the winner at 8:32)
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To: line drive to right

15-"Believe me, the major media boasts the most arrogant group of people in our culture. You'd be surprised at how stupid most of them are..."

How would we be surprised. Daily, they parade their arrogance and stupidity before the public throughout the major media.

Damn dumb Yankees, most of them.


66 posted on 05/15/2004 1:43:14 AM PDT by XBob
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To: alaska-sgt

Any suggestions as to how we might be able to determine (or rule out) residents of the various Baghdad hotels?


67 posted on 05/15/2004 1:54:11 AM PDT by hmmmmm
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To: hmmmmm

There are too many leftist reporters in those hotels. I can't figure a way to narrow it down.


68 posted on 05/15/2004 2:00:12 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: risk
Jenny, first I like your analogy of Ft. McHenry better.

Then I won't mention that I really meant Ft. Sumter. :-)

69 posted on 05/15/2004 2:02:18 AM PDT by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: alaska-sgt










...I have got nothing to say about this subject, that is how speechless I am.


70 posted on 05/15/2004 2:03:14 AM PDT by Big Bad Bob (Leading the Task Force against Communism)
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To: Big Bad Bob

Well then, thanks for nothing! LOL!


71 posted on 05/15/2004 2:06:52 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: rdb3

I never thought I'd see the day when Lemmy and Beethoven would be on the same page together.


72 posted on 05/15/2004 2:12:26 AM PDT by SoDak
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To: rdb3

On target. Good point.


73 posted on 05/15/2004 2:16:54 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: alaska-sgt
I anticipated that answer :), but it can't hurt to hope.

Hopefully word gets around that what most of the press reports is not believed by the majority of the public.
74 posted on 05/15/2004 2:23:20 AM PDT by hmmmmm
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To: LifeTrek
an American magazine journalist of serious accomplishment and impeccable liberal credentials. "She" "in Baghdad"
I'll be watching for bylines from Baghdad. Bitch. :-(
75 posted on 05/15/2004 2:34:31 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Have a nice day or else!)
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To: LifeTrek
Anyone doubt that the left is praying for more American military deaths in Iraq? About the Iraqi's they could not care less.

They pray for the terrorists to win...never doubt it for a moment. It's going to be up to us to make sure that President Bush is not defeated in November.

76 posted on 05/15/2004 2:43:38 AM PDT by OldFriend (LOSERS quit when they are tired/WINNERS quit when they have won)
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To: TheLurkerX

Most of the media adheres to the anti-American line because they wouldn't have been hired in the first place if they hadn't made it clear that's what they thought. It's just like Hollywood, where if you don't trash America, you don't get a foot in the door. Liberals have a stranglehold on hiring and firing, as well as having infested academia and brainwashing our children since Vietnam. Communism's useful idiots.


77 posted on 05/15/2004 2:48:08 AM PDT by hershey
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To: LifeTrek

Hearsay and unnamed sources....don't we usually dismiss these things at FR?


78 posted on 05/15/2004 3:02:43 AM PDT by LanaTurnerOverdrive
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To: ladyinred

It is unbelievable. There is no further hope for "civil discussion", the left (with few exceptions, such as Nat Hentoff) has become foaming at the mouth mad. I hate to say it, but I am looking forward to the old "hippies vs. hardhats".
Beat on the brat with a baseball bat - The Ramones.


79 posted on 05/15/2004 3:13:28 AM PDT by Fred Hayek
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To: LifeTrek

"In an opinion piece for the Spectator magazine of Britain, Harnden said at poolside he "was accosted by an American magazine journalist of serious accomplishment and impeccable liberal credentials"

Liberal and Accomplishment should never be used in the same sentence.


80 posted on 05/15/2004 3:48:28 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Only difference between the liberals and the Nazis is that the liberals love the Communists.)
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