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Soldier's Family Set in Motion Chain of Events on Disclosure [Hackworth involved in CBS photos]
NY Times ^ | 5/8/04 | James Dao and Eric Lichtblau

Posted on 05/07/2004 11:02:41 PM PDT by saquin

CUMBERLAND, Md., May 7 — Ivan Frederick was distraught. His son, an Army reservist turned prison guard in Iraq, was under investigation earlier this year for mistreating prisoners, and photographs of the abuse were beginning to circulate among soldiers and military investigators.

So the father went to his brother-in-law, William Lawson, who was afraid that reservists like his nephew would end up taking the fall for what he considered command lapses, Mr. Lawson recounted in an interview on Friday. He knew whom to turn to: David Hackworth, a retired colonel and a muckraker who was always willing to take on the military establishment. Mr. Lawson sent an e-mail message in March to Mr. Hackworth's Web site and got a call back from an associate there in minutes, he said.

That e-mail message would put Mr. Lawson in touch with the CBS News program "60 Minutes II" and help set in motion events that led to the public disclosure of the graphic photographs and an international crisis for the Bush administration.

It is still not entirely clear who leaked the photos and how they got into the hands of a "60 Minutes II" producer. What is clear, however, is that the furor over the photos is unlikely to dissipate any time soon.

And it may only get worse.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld disclosed Friday that there were "many more photos" and videos of abuse that have not yet become public. And he acknowledged in Senate testimony that the military might have mishandled the affair by not alerting members of Congress and the public to the growing seriousness of the military's investigation into the abuses before the images became public on "60 Minutes II."

"I wish I had been able to convey to them the gravity of this before we saw it in the media," Mr. Rumsfeld said.

The irony, Mr. Lawson said, is that the public spectacle might have been avoided if the military and the federal government had been responsive to his claims that his nephew was simply following orders. Mr. Lawson said he sent letters to 17 members of Congress about the case earlier this year, with virtually no response, and that he ultimately contacted Mr. Hackworth's Web site out of frustration, leading him to cooperate with a consultant for "60 Minutes II."

"The Army had the opportunity for this not to come out, not to be on 60 Minutes," he said. "But the Army decided to prosecute those six G.I.'s because they thought me and my family were a bunch of poor, dirt people who could not do anything about it. But unfortunately, that was not the case."

Many of the incriminating photographs appear to have been taken on a digital camera by a soldier in the 372nd Military Police Company who is now facing a court-martial. From there, they appear to have circulated among military personnel in Iraq via e-mail and computer disks, and some may have found their way to family members in the United States.

But there are still numerous unresolved questions about the photographs. One is why they were taken. Some officials suggest that soldiers wanted the photographs as souvenirs, but some relatives said they believed that the photographs were going to be shown to other prisoners to pressure their cooperation.

Then there is the question of how the photographs became public.

Lt. Gen. Lance Smith, deputy commander of forces in the region, testifying Friday before Congress, said he was still unclear how that happened. "It was a surprise that it got out," General Smith said.

Military officials were aware of two disks with photographs on them that were part of continuing investigations, one in Iraq and another in Washington, he said.

"That was the limit of the pictures, and we thought we had them all," General Smith said.

Producers at "60 Minutes II" are not saying exactly how they got the photographs. But Jeff Fager, the executive producer, said, "We heard about someone who was outraged about it and thought that the public should know about it."

Digital cameras have become so ubiquitous in the military that many relatives of personnel in the 372nd and other units in Iraq said they routinely received photographs by e-mail. But the photographs were usually tourist-type photographs of smiling sons and daughters, relatives said.

Officials said that the photographs showing psychological or physical abuse numbered in the hundreds, perhaps more than 1,000, with Mr. Rumsfeld hinting Friday that more may come out.

Among some prison personnel in Iraq, the photographs were apparently an open secret. "Some soldiers in Iraq had them — I'm hearing that soldiers were showing them to everybody," Mr. Lawson said. He said he did not have the original photos and did not turn them over to anyone.

The photographs have now turned soldiers like Mr. Lawson's nephew, Staff Sgt. Ivan Frederick, and Pfc. Lynndie R. England into graphic symbols of military abuse. But for Mr. Lawson, they are evidence of a complete breakdown in training and authority in the Iraqi prison system.

He shared his frustration in his March 23 e-mail message to Mr. Hackworth's Web site, writing: "We have contacted the Red Cross, Congress both parties, Bill O'Reilly and many others. Nobody wants to touch this."

Less than five weeks later, images of his nephew — interviewed on "60 Minutes II" with Mr. Lawson's help — would be shown around the world. Far from untouchable, the story would become unavoidable.


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To: garandgal
It makes my head explode every single time I hear that, too. What do they think they DO in the military????
521 posted on 05/08/2004 7:20:22 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Texasforever
David Hackworth is a tool of the leftist media if you haven't noticed. He falls in the exact same category as Benedict McCain -- he sold his soul, and his country, for a few pieces of silver.

I cannot imagine why people "admire" this fool...

522 posted on 05/08/2004 7:23:10 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Texasforever
>>Oh yes they can Howlin. If he leaked ANYTHING that was classified he is subject to Courts Martial assuming he is drawing a pension or other military benef<<

Plus--I can hardly wait to see his little weasel face under oath in front of the senate committee's testifying!
523 posted on 05/08/2004 7:23:22 AM PDT by sissyjane (You're either with us or against us.)
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To: Quilla
Doesn't surprise me that Hack would back Clark--I have the same feelings of revulsion against Clark as I do Hack. Besides they both have that "milktoast" look about them...just like Richard Clark...ugh
524 posted on 05/08/2004 7:25:05 AM PDT by ozzysmom
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To: Barlowmaker
What lesson do you draw from that excerpt?

The Marines are mostly combat veterans and know best, how and where to assist. They have a great plan to help the citizens of Al Anbar attain the next level. So the future for Al Anbar in Iraq remains very bright.

525 posted on 05/08/2004 7:26:20 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: jaime1959
"...most decorated soldiers..."

Adolf Hitler and Hermann Goering were also very highly "decorated" soldiers. For that matter, John F'ng Kerry is "highly decorated".

Please explain to me how being "decorated" because of an event that happened to be witnessed by a higher up who happens to be looking for soldiers to dole medals out to, or being "decorated" because a cynic (like Kerry) knows how to squeeze a reward from a Military Institution, in any way guarantees future patriotism?

526 posted on 05/08/2004 7:30:42 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: subedei
1. a. To give aid or information to an enemy of; commit treason against: betray one's country. b. To deliver into the hands of an enemy in violation of a trust or allegiance 2. To be false or disloyal to: betrayed their cause; betray one's better nature. 3. To divulge in a breach of confidence: betray a secret.

Oh, looks like we have a DOUBLE winner

528 posted on 05/08/2004 7:37:08 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: TigersEye
He took it to 17 Congress Slimes and got squat. What was his next step?

Got squat? That's all he's entitled to. He doesn't get to be on the judges panel. What he means in saying he got nowhere means to me that nobody was excusing his rotten nephew's behavior. A few post dated letters to cover his ass by a 37 year old Sgt. is not convincing. Funny how no emails that have verifiable dates were sent by this Sgt. Frederick. Who, incidentally, is a prison guard in WV, is 37 years old and knew better than to engage in this type of BS.

Here's how it went down, IMO. Lawson says, "Either you let my nephew off the hook or I publicize the photos." The military said "Nuts!". Hence, the photos.

529 posted on 05/08/2004 7:38:43 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: evad
She worked in a Pizza joint, I think. Saving the world MAY mean going to Iraq but I translate it as a NOW member.
530 posted on 05/08/2004 7:38:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: ozzysmom
What do you mean, milktoast?
531 posted on 05/08/2004 7:39:02 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: saquin
Question: Who took the photos inside the prison and why?
532 posted on 05/08/2004 7:40:53 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: saquin
If some in Congress already knew, why did they act so surprised and give the impression that this was the first time they had heard about it?
533 posted on 05/08/2004 7:43:53 AM PDT by Bubbette
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To: saquin
I would hope that Hackworth knows better than to endanger military personnel, in enemy territory during wartime, by ILLEGALLY obtaining those photos and handing them to the CBS producer to be ILLEGALLY broadcast...but I want whomever leaked to be punished.
534 posted on 05/08/2004 7:47:57 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: RGSpincich
I think you're right as the soldier is prejudiced by the photos and becomes the victim. The problem: There is a good chance that there was a crime committed in releasing the photos. I'd bet you ten to 0, that he had to sign a contract with the media, releasing them from any liability.

I haven't seen an Iraqi face yet and one of the Iraqis identified himself in the photos by little butt scars. (Can't prove it by me).

As a footnote: Salon's reporter in Iraq interviewed an Al Jazeera dude who was in our prison (and abused), who said he knew about it because the soldiers were using the photos for screen savers.

If it turns out that the "videos" were filmed by/and/or given to an Al Jazeera infiltrator, please don't tell me.

535 posted on 05/08/2004 7:48:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: saquin
"The irony, Mr. Lawson said, is that the public spectacle might have been avoided if the military and the federal government had been responsive to his claims that his nephew was simply following orders."

How do we know they all following orders? Because he says so and the NY Slimes printed it?

How did Hillary know what was in that report while it was classified and before Sec Def Rumsfeld got a copy of it?

536 posted on 05/08/2004 7:51:28 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Bubbette
It was announced in January for the WHOLE WORLD. Please don't tell me they don't watch the news and/or hear about it. I'm sure everyone gets a Centcom brief everyday.

Next step: NAME THE 17 CONGRESS MEMBERS and I assume the majority are SENATORS.

537 posted on 05/08/2004 7:54:17 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: onyx
read everything you said about Hackworth. You're right, he has always hated Brass, and I can't recall exactly why, but he went sour on our side a while back. Maybe you remember?

Oil-for-Food Program?
538 posted on 05/08/2004 7:54:31 AM PDT by johnb838 (Cut off an ear and ask them "How you like me now?")
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To: nmh
So the whole thing started in an effort to pass the buck. Sickening. It's more than sickening : it's tragic.
539 posted on 05/08/2004 7:58:28 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Howlin
We all join the military for different reasons, but the bottom line is that at some point, regardless of our initial motivations, we might be called upon to kill people and break things. Maybe that exact language ought to be in all enlistment contracts from now on... something like:

"I, the undersigned, realize that although I have my own selfish reasons for joining the military, I may ultimately be asked to go to a foreign land. There I may have to endure hardship such as no PX, no cable TV, and no twenty-minute showers. I MAY HAVE TO KILL THE ENEMY."

540 posted on 05/08/2004 7:59:09 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (You need tons click "co-ordinating")
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