Some 9/11 families angered by no apology from Rice (YAWN!!!!)

Reuters ^ | 4/8/04

[areafiftyone]

WASHINGTON, April 8 (Reuters) - Some relatives of Sept. 11 victims responded in anger on Thursday to what they described as the White House's failure to accept responsibility for the 2001 attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.

Family members were among those in the crowded hearing room to listen to national security adviser Condoleezza Rice tell the 9-11 commission that bureaucratic structure was to blame for the administration's inability to counter the attacks.

"No one wants to take any responsibility. Three thousand people died, and all they want to talk about is structural problems," Bob McIlvaine of Oreland, Pennsylvania, whose son died in New York's World Trade Center.

"They should be ashamed of themselves," he said.

Many 9/11 relatives said the general public should have been warned about the potential for attack during the summer of 2001, when intelligence officials were said to have detected a surge in communications between suspicious operatives.

But during three hours of testimony before the bipartisan commission, Rice denied the Bush administration was negligent, countering testimony of former White House anti-terror czar Richard Clarke. Clarke told the commission on March 24 that the Bush White House ignored the urgent threat from al Qaeda.

"I am angry at the lack of accepting accountability -- that's what the president should have done, accepted responsibility," said Beverly Eckert of Stamford, Connecticut, whose husband Sean died at the World Trade Center.

"Instead, it's been outwardly directed, not just at the terrorists but at previous administrations."

Added New Jersey widow Patty Casazza: "I think it made her look incompetent in her position."

Clarke began his testimony by apologizing to victims and their families for government failings that allowed the attacks to occur.

Carie Lemack, whose mother also died in the attack on New York's World Trade Center towers, told CNN Rice should have admitted errors were made.

"We did not hear that today. I'm hoping we are going to hear that because it is clear that 3,000 people don't just get murdered. There were mistakes made and we need to fix them to make sure Americans are safer."

"... We're glad that she came forward and spoke. We're glad that it was in public, under oath, and we were able to get that information. But there is a lot more truth to be told," she added.

[finnman69]

Different...

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1094442/posts
Active measures (Mrs. Heinz Kerry's " philanthropy")

[Right_in_Virginia]

Someone needs to tell these people that 9/11 was not about them.

It was an act of war.

If they want justice for their loved ones, they need to stop self-obsessing and support the President's goals to capture and kill the attackers and stop this from happening again.

[Wyatt's Torch]

Even if they had been warned we still couldn't have stooped at the 19 would have been excluded from searches due to racial profiling.

[areafiftyone]

YOu are right - that doesnt' make sense. We get constant warnings about soft targets etc every day and what are we going to do about it? We still go about our lives just like we did on 9/11. We can't stay home every day because of that. If another terrorist strike happens we just have to deal with it.

[NYC Republican]

Thanks for outing these opportunistic shrill partisan bitche$. Sorry to be so crass, but they should take their millions and STFU!

[NCC-1701]

"..Patty Casazza..."

I used to live on a street named Cazassa. My father said it has some negative connotations.

[Ditto]

"No one wants to take any responsibility. Three thousand people died, and all they want to talk about is structural problems," Bob McIlvaine of Oreland, Pennsylvania, whose son died in New York's World Trade Center.
"They should be ashamed of themselves," he said.

Peaceful Tomorrows members Adele Welty, Rita Lasar and Bob McIlvaine prepare for march to the Capitol

Peaceful Tomorrows is a ultra left wing propaganda organization funded by the ultra left wing Tides Center. Bob McIlvaine is the person who should be ashamed for allowing his son's murder to be used for purely partisan politics.

BTW. Why dosen't the media identify the organizations that sponsor these people?

[river rat]

"Reuter's can only find partisan Democrats to interview."

Well, due to the ones that Reuters found -- I feel a little grateful that perhaps some necessary bleach was tossed into the gene pool..

Contrary to mob belief -- not everyone killed on 9/11 was a hero..

I guess I'm revealing my disgust at the greed being expressed by many of the surviving family members from the workers at the World Trade Center - who will received millions for being at the wrong place at the wrong time - and did NOTHING heroic, and NOTHING in defense of America...

The families of our dead warriors - who volunteer to go in harm's way to defend the nation - get next to nothing from their "grateful nation"...

I'm more than a little sick of the behavior, greed and unearned "status" of many of the families of office workers murdered that day..

Semper Fi

[bray]

On 9/11 we were all NYers! These people have no more or no less opinion on what happened prior to 9/11 than we do. To climb up on top of your dead relatives as a platform is disgraceful.

Pray for Condi Rice and The Truth

[LdSentinal]

Increadible.

We don't hate the people who actually did the slaughter of 3,000 people.

We hate the people who are trying to do their best to bring those people to justice.

I hope my $200 to the Red Cross after 9/11 didn't go to these scum bags.

[LdSentinal]

Increadible.

We don't hate the people who actually did the slaughter of 3,000 people.

We hate the people who are trying to do their best to bring those people to justice.

I hope my $200 to the Red Cross after 9/11 didn't go to these scum bags.

[mcshot]

Excellent point!
MC

[uncitizen]

Are "the families" equally angered at no apology by Al-Qaeda?

[Oldeconomybuyer]

America already took "responsibility for the 1001 attacks":

 

Sept. 11 Victim compensation fund has paid out $2.6 billion so far, officials say

[BlackRazor]

I don't remember Clinton's administration being pointedly blamed for 9-11, indeed, it seems the Bush admin has been remarkably gentle on this point. So these people get it on their own, but I guess they don't like it.

No, what it means is that they've probably been fed talking points in advance, just like the 911 victims' families who were interviewed by the media after Bush's campaign ads with 1.2 seconds of 911 footage in them.

[finnman69]

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=September_11th_Advocates

The September 11th Advocates is a "family advocacy group that spearheaded the grassroots effort for the establishment of the independent commission" on September 11, 2001. [1]

The Advocates, family members who have been "turned into activists," have been described as "made up of a handful of New Jersey widows." [2] They are also known as Just Four Moms from New Jersey, the 9/11 Widows, and the Jersey Girls. [3]


Members

Kristen Breitweiser is a founding member and Co-Chairperson of the Advocates and "founding member of the 9/11 Commission's 'Family Steering Committee.' Breitweiser lost her husband Ronald in WTC Tower Two and was one of the driving forces behind the creation of the 9/11 Commission when the congressional 9/11 joint intelligence inquiry was restricted, redacted and stonewalled. ... As a knowledgeable and trusted representative of the 9/11 victim family community, Breitweiser has been widely called 'conscience of 9/11'." She is also a member of the Advisory Committee for the "Memoria Project", "an endeavor to create a lasting tribute to the victims and survivors of September 11th and to enrich all who come into contact with it in the process." [4][5]
Mindy Kleinberg is a founding member; "Alan Kleinberg was a NASDAQ security trader with Cantor Fitzgerald in the North Tower of the WTC on the 104th Floor. He was 39 and had been a NASDAQ security trader for 15 years." [6]
Patty Casazza, widow of John Casazza [7]
Lorie van Auken, widow of Kenneth van Auken [8]

[jimbo123]

9/11 Professional Victims here:


Kristen Breitweiser, wife of Ronald Breitweiser, 39
Fiduciary Trust International, WTC Tower Two
Hometown: Middletown Township, NJ
Co-Chair, September 11th Advocates
Kdianbreit@aol.com

Patty Casazza, wife of John F. Casazza, 38
Cantor Fitzgerald, 104th floor, WTC Tower One
Hometown: Colts Neck, NJ
Co-Chair, September 11th Advocates
jcasazz2@optonline.net

Mindy Kleinberg, wife of Alan Kleinberg, 39
Cantor Fitzgerald, 104th floor, WTC Tower One
Hometown: East Brunswick, NJ
Co-Chair, September 11th Advocates
akleinberg@comcast.net

Lorie Van Auken, wife of Kenneth Van Auken, 47
Cantor Fitzgerald, 105th floor, WTC Tower One
Hometown: East Brunswick, NJ
Co-Chair, September 11th Advocates
kenvan@comcast.net

[DustyMoment]

Some 9/11 families angered by no apology from Rice

"You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time."

[Alberta's Child]

I am not exposed. I've been saying for two years now that these families are a royal pain in the @ss -- and should therefore be ignored.

[freeperfromnj]

The rich merry widows from NJ. They are SHAMEFUL.