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Electoral College Breakdown 2004, March 31st Update
ECB2004 ^

Posted on 03/31/2004 7:56:05 AM PST by Dales

Edited on 03/31/2004 8:24:09 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

I Wouldn't Touch It With a 10 Foot Poll

[This article is part two of a three part series. Part one is here.]

Are Things Leaning Towards Staying The Same?

In retrospect, it is pretty obvious that Oregon and New Mexico would eventually become tight contests in 2000 despite April polls showing George W. Bush with double digit leads over Al Gore. In 1996, President Clinton defeated Bob Dole in Oregon 47.15% to 39.06%, with Ross Perot taking in 8.80%. And in New Mexico, Clinton had topped Dole by almost as comfortable of a margin, 49.18% to 41.86%, with Perot scoring 5.80%. What caught my eye, however, was how similar the vote percentage for the Democrat candidate was in each case.

State Clinton %, 1996 Gore %, 2000 Difference
New Mexico 49.18% 47.91% 1.27%
Oregon 47.15% 46.96% 0.19%

In New Mexico and in Oregon, the final 2000 results were as if Gore got the Clinton vote, while Bush got the Dole vote and the Perot vote. These were not the only states where this held true. In Wisconsin, Clinton had topped Dole by 10.33%, but his percentage was 0.02% less than Dole and Perot combined; Gore beat Bush there by 0.22%. In Colorado, Clinton's lost to Dole by 1.37%, and with Perot added he lagged by 7.96%; Bush beat Gore in Colorado by 8.36%. In Missouri, Clinton took the electoral prize by 6.3%, but had Perot's voters chosen Dole, the Republican would have won by 3.76%, which is very similar to the 3.34% win Bush enjoyed over Gore.

As a matter of fact, the gap between Clinton and the sum of Dole and Perot predicted the gap between Bush and Gore within a single percentage point (an average of 1/2 a percent per party) in a dozen states- Nebraska, Wisconsin, Vermont, Colorado, Missouri, Indiana, Arizona, Virginia, Hawaii, Michigan, Tennessee, and Ohio. Nine more states, Oregon, North Carolina, New Mexico, Iowa, New Hampshire, Maine, Alabama, Washington, and Minnesota, all were within 2%. And within 5%, which is still representing a small change of just 2.5% per "side", gets us up to a whopping 32 states.

It almost is easier to analyze the states where this trend did not hold true. Many of them involve the home states of those who were on the tickets in the two elections. President Clinton was very popular in his home state of Arkansas. He trounced both Dole and Perot by a combined 9.04%, while Gore lost the state by 5.45%, a swing of 14.49%. Dick Cheney's presence on the 2000 Republican ticket seems to have impacted Wyoming to a similar degree. In 1996, Clinton took home 25.22% less than Dole and Perot. In 2000, Gore lagged Bush by 40.06%, a swing of 14.84%. George W. Bush was worth a 9.64% Republican gain in Texas. Joe Lieberman improved the Democrat's Connecticut lot by 9.35%. Without Dole on the ticket, Bush did 6.03% less than the combined Dole/Perot vote in Kansas. Jack Kemp seemed to have the least impact, with New York going to Gore by 4.09% more than Clinton took over Dole and Perot. Since Gore was on the ticket in both elections, it is not surprising that Tennessee was one of the states where the sum of Dole and Perot predicted well the Gore versus Bush race.

It even held true on the national level for the popular vote. Clinton won 49.23% of the vote. Gore won 48.38%, a 0.85% difference. The sum of Dole and Perot's support was 49.12%. Bush took 47.87%, which is just 1.25% less. The 2000 election was indicative of a very evenly divided nation. So was the 1996 election. It was just hidden by a third party candidacy. If it was that Perot took votes from the Republicans, or if George W. Bush was able to capture all of the remaining Perot voters is unclear, as is if those are actually two different things. What is clear is that Clinton versus Dole plus Perot predicted the results of Gore versus Bush as perfectly as anything can, barring the use of a time machine.

This does not imply that Perot cost Dole the election in 1996. We can never know how his involvement altered the debate. But given the fact that Clinton added so much to the Arkansas Democrat tally, enough to move that state to the Democrats, the odds are that he would have won even if everywhere else Dole had captured all of the Perot vote.

The degree by which states were stable between 1996 and 2000 is not common. As a comparison, I looked at the 1876-1880 elections. As mentioned previously, both were extremely close. The 1876 election was decided by a single electoral vote and less than 2% of the national vote. The 1880 election was decided by 0.02% in the popular vote and 51 electoral votes, with many states being by very small margins. Many states were just as close in both elections, but even then not to the degree they were similar in 1996 and 2000 (once Perot is factored out). Where 12 states in 2000 (representing 23.5% of the races) were within a single point of the gap between Clinton and his two main opponents, in 1880 only 2 states (5.4% of the races) did the margin change by less than a point. In 2000, 35 races were within 5% of the 1996 gap (68.6%); in 1880, 23 were (62.1%).

In many ways, all of the drama and intrigue behind the 2000 election was much ado over nothing. All of the debates, all of the advertising, all of partisanship, all of the hubbub over soccer moms and swing voters, all of it mattered little. And since in many ways 2000 was a repeat of 1996, I think it is likely that 2004 is going to continue the trend. The precedent for the status quo remaining has already been set.

Which brings me back to the ECB. I was trying to determine how likely a contested state showing a strong advantage for a candidate as of early April was to end up going to the trailing candidate. The answer I have arrived it is "not very likely if that state was not within a handful of points in 2000". Not likely, that is, unless a Vice Presidential candidate is added from one of those states. John Kerry might decide to go after Louisiana by choosing John Breaux or Mary Landreiu. Other than that, it looks to me like all of the current strong states are going to remain with their leader.

Moving on to the states which were leaning for Bush last time around brings us to Nevada, Missouri, Kentucky, Alabama, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Louisiana, and Mississippi. Gore managed to pick off the two jewels of the bunch, taking the rust belt states. In the nine states which were leaning towards Gore, Bush picked off Tennessee, but the leads in Minnesota, New Jersey, California, Connecticut, Illinois, Delaware, Vermont and Maryland held up. All three of the ones that flipped were ones where the gap between Clinton and Dole/Perot was smaller than 5%. Of the leaning states that did not flip, only Minnesota fell into that category, barely; Minnesota was a very close state in 2000.

Of the states currently leaning, Wisconsin, Oregon, Iowa for Kerry and Tennessee, Nevada, and Missouri for Bush are the ones where the 2000 gap was less than 5%. The rest of the leaning states are unlikely to change, but these states can be picked off by a well run campaign.


This Week's Polling Updates Overview

I added a large number of poll results this week into the ECB2004. Maryland, Pennsylvania, Washington, Wisconsin, and New York moved towards the President, while Oklahoma, Iowa, Ohio, and Colorado moved towards Kerry. In almost every case, the movement made the overall race tighter, with only Iowa moving to a less competitive status.

One thing of interest is that the states which were most directly impacted by the murderous attacks of 9/11 are showing more support for the President than one would anticipate. New York, New Jersey, and Maryland are all much closer than their recent history and common perception would indicate. The only poll I have for Virginia is dated but it too showed Bush doing much better than he did in 2000; I left it as a leaner to be conservative, but perhaps that was a mistake.


New York

F New York
Electoral Votes: 31
2000 Result
Gore 60%
Bush 35%

Background: From 1960 onward, Republicans have carried the Empire State only three times. Nixon beat McGovern, Reagan beat Carter, and Reagan beat Mondale. Even Dukakis won here.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
4/03 Marist Link RV 4% Bush 32% Unnamed Democrat 39% Dem +7
9/23/03 Marist Link RV 4% Bush 32% Unnamed Democrat 48% Dem +16
10/28/03 Quinnipiac NA RV 4% Bush 42% Kerry 50% Dem +8
11/19/03 Zogby Link LV 4% Bush 41% Kerry 46% Dem +5
1/7/04 Marist Link 617 RV 4% Bush 34% Unnamed Democrat 36% Dem +2

Punditry: The Marist poll I am adding now is already very stale, but it is more recent than what I previously had. It also, surprisingly, validated the earlier polls showing New York to be competitive. I would imagine that the state has swung back towards the Democrats since January, and as such I cannot bring myself to drop this all the way down to battleground status, which the last two polls would indicate is where it belongs. I'll put New York as Leaning Towards Kerry, with the caveat that I fully expect the Empire State to move strongly to the left in the next poll for the state.


New Jersey

New Jersey
Electoral Votes: 15
2000 Result
Gore 56%
Bush 40%

Background: New Jersey used to be considered a Republican state. Those days have passed, although there are still some signs of life. In the last 10 Presidential elections it has gone 1-6-3 with the Republican wins coming in the middle, the last Clinton win and the Gore win were by such substantial margins that it is hard to avoid the feeling that New Jersey is trending leftward.

If New Jersey remains tight enough to stay in the battleground, it is a case of back to the future. ECB2000 started with it leaning Gore's way. The Democrats have 7 of 13 Representatives and both Senate seats, control both chambers of the state legislature, hold all of the important executive offices, and have a 25%-19% advantage in voter registration.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
9/8/03 Rutgers Link 802 Adults 3.5% Bush 43% Unnamed Democrat 35% Bush +8
9/15/03 Fairleigh Dickinson University/Public Mind Link 600 RV 4% Bush 36% Unnamed Democrat 29% Bush +7
9/25/03 Quinnipiac Link RV 3.1% Bush 48% Kerry 43% Bush +5
11/10/03 Quinnipiac Link 1,027 RV 3.1% Bush 46% Kerry 43% Bush +3
1/11/04 Fairleigh Dickinson University/Public Mind Link 600 RV 4% Bush 40% Unnamed Democrat 32% Bush +8
1/13/04 Rutgers Link 823 RV 4.2% Bush 41% Unnamed Democrat 38% Bush +3

Punditry: The Jersey saga continues. I find yet another fairly stale poll for the Garden State. And yet again, it confirms a Slight Advantage for Bush.

I have spent more time pondering New Jersey's prospects than any other state. While I still do not have any polls which were taken after Kerry became the nominee and enjoyed his media-driven surge, there are some things which give me some indications of the status of things.

First, as mentioned in the last ECB update for New Jersey, a March poll that measured approval ratings in New Jersey only showed a 3 point drop for the President from November, when Bush had a three point lead here. This is evidence that he is holding tough here.

Second, by mid-January in many states that trend Democrat, Bush had already fallen behind.

State 2000 Result Date of closest poll to mid-January Poll Result Difference
Massachusetts Gore +27 12/03 Kerry +18 9
Rhode Island Gore +29 2/7/04 Unnamed Democrat +18 11
Maryland Gore +17 1/12/04 Unnamed Democrat +10 7
Connecticut Gore +18 7/31/03 Unnamed Democrat +14 4
2/26/04 Kerry +13 5
Illinois Gore +13 1/9/04 Unnamed Democrat +8 5
California Gore +11 1/13/04 Unnamed Democrat +1 10
1/18/04 Unnamed Democrat +5 8
New York Gore +25 1/7/04 Unnamed Democrat +2 23
New Jersey Gore +16 1/11/04 Bush +8 24
1/13/04 Bush +3 19

There is no denying that New Jersey has been hostile territory for Republicans of late. But there is a distinct possibility that something has changed. It isn't hard to imagine what it could be either- 9/11. No states were impacted at a core level the way New York and New Jersey were. The polls across the country are suggesting that electorally, not much has changed since last election, despite 9/11. I am not sure that things are unchanged in New York and New Jersey. That makes them very interesting to watch, at least in the early portions of the campaign.


Alabama

Alabama
Electoral Votes: 9
2000 Result
Bush 56%
Gore 42%

Background: Alabama has been a reliable GOP state, only straying twice since 1960; both times it went for a southerner. Jimmy Carter carried the state, as did George Wallace.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
4/27/03 USA Polling Group Link RV 5% Bush 60% Unnamed Democrat 30 Bush +30
3/18/04 USA Polling Group Link 405 adults 5% Bush 59% Kerry 27% Bush +32

Punditry: Second verse, same as the first. Safe Bush.


Colorado

F Colorado
Electoral Votes: 9
2000 Result
Bush 51%
Gore 42%

Background: Colorado is generally considered to be winnable for the Democrats, but historically this has proven to be a solid GOP bastion. Only three times since Franklin Delano Roosevelt was President has a Democrat carried this state (Truman, Johnson, and Clinton against Bush- with a big thanks to Perot taking 23% of the tally).

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
9/8-10/03 Colorado Democratic Party NA RV 4% Bush 42% Unnamed Democrat 35% Bush +7
12/15-16/03 Public Opinion Strategies NA LV 4.9% Bush 46% Unnamed Democrat 36% Bush +10
3/16/04 Public Opinion Strategies NA 500 LV 4.5% Bush 46% Kerry 42% Bush +4

Punditry: Up until now, I had the following as the comment here: "Colorado may end up being a single digit margin, but the results will likely never be in doubt." This poll does not change that analysis. One thing that always intruiges me is trying to figure out the motivations behind partisan polling companies when they make public their own results. Why does the Republican pollster choose to release these numbers? Why do Democrat pollsters choose to release the numbers they do? What can be gleaned from those decisions?

Technically, a 4 point margin goes into the slight category, but not when the previous polls all had things being less close. I am dropping Colorado down to Leaning Towards Bush.


Missouri

Missouri
Electoral Votes: 11
2000 Result
Bush 50%
Gore 47%

Background: Considered by many to be a bellwether state, Missouri has gone Republican in every election after 1964 except for three. Jimmy Carter beat Gerald Ford by a small, four point margin. Bill Clinton won the state twice, but both times relied on Perot taking double digits (over 20% in the first). From 1968 on, the only Democrat to break 50% in Missouri was Carter, and the only Republican to fail to get 50% absent a truly strong third party candidate was Ford.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
9/9/03 Research 2000 Link 600 LV 4% Bush 49% Dick Gephardt 39% Bush +10
1/29/04 Research 2000 Link 804 LV 4% Bush 45% Unnamed Democrat 40% Bush +5
2/14/04 Decision Research (D) NA LV 4% Bush 46% Kerry 49% Kerry +3
3/2/04 Suffolk University Link LV 4% Bush 50% Kerry 39% Bush +11
3/19/04 Decision Research (D) NA LV 4% Bush 46% Kerry 49% Kerry +3
3/23/04 Rasmussen Link 500 LV 4.5% Bush 49% Kerry 42% Bush +7

Punditry: Kerry's improvement in other states has not carried over to the Show Me state. The divergent polls for Missouri and Iowa are very interesting, and indicate to me that the uncountered publicity Kerry got during the intense run-up to the Iowa Caucuses is having a lasting effect there. Here, Missouri still Leans for Bush. Decision Research, a Democrat polling firm, seems to be out of step with other firms.


Minnesota

Minnesota
Electoral Votes: 10
2000 Result
Gore 48%
Bush 46%

Background: Nixon (against McGovern) is the only Republican winner since Ike. Reagan (against Carter) and Bush (against Gore) made it close, and it is possible that Dole could have beaten Clinton sans Perot. The Reagan race that was close was notable because it was against the homestate Mondale.

The slight advantage for the Democrats is a step up from the leaning Gore position at the start of ECB 2000. Minnesota's legislative seats are split right down the middle. Half of the Representatives, half of the Senate seats, and one of the state legislative chambers are held by each party. Most of the important executive branch offices are held by Republicans with the exception of Attorney General.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
1/26/04 Mason-Dixon NA LV 4% Bush 41% Kerry 43% Kerry +2
3/25/04 Rasmussen Link 500 LV 4.5% Bush 44% Kerry 47% Kerry +3

Punditry: Kerry maintains a slight lead in Minnesota. It is still somewhat surprising to see Minnesota polling to the right of Iowa, but perhaps it should not be. Slight Advantage for Kerry.


Iowa

F Iowa
Electoral Votes: 7
2000 Result
Gore 48%
Bush 46%

Background: Iowa is a state of streaks, going 1-5-4 over the last 10. Clinton would likely have lost his first campaign against Bush had Perot not been a factor. The state is generally close, with the only surprisingly large margin coming when Dukakis beat Bush by 10 points.

Iowa rated a slight advantage to Bush in the first ECB of 2000. This time, it rates a slight advantage to the Democrats. Other positions in Iowa are mixed. The Republicans hold 4 of the 5 House seats, and the Senate seats are split. The Republicans control both chambers of the state legislature, but the Democrats hold all major executive offices except for Auditor. Republicans hold a 32% to 29% advantage in registration.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
9/12/03 Des Moines Register Link 803 Adults 3.5% Bush 41% Unnamed Democrat 41% Even
10/30/03 Research 2000 Link LV 4% Bush 46% Unnamed Democrat 47% Dem +1
1/5/04 Research 2000 Link LV 4% Bush 50% Unnamed Democrat 42% Bush +8
2/11/04 Selzer & Co. NA RV 3.4% Bush 42% Kerry 49% Kerry +7
3/23/04 Rasmussen Link 500 LV 4.5% Bush 41% Kerry 51% Kerry +10

Punditry: Considering how well Kerry resonated with Iowa voters as shown by his startling win in the caucuses, his lead in Iowa is not all that surprising. Leans toward Kerry.


West Virginia

West Virginia
Electoral Votes: 5
2000 Result
Bush 52%
Gore 46%

Background: It was a huge change from the past when Bush beat Gore here in 2000. Over the last eighteen elections, the Democrats have won 14, and both of Clinton's wins would almost certainly have come even without Ross Perot. This is not a state the Democrats should have lost.

In the first ECB of 2000, West Virginia was rated as a battleground state with a slight advantage to Bush. This time around, it is starting as a complete tossup. Two of West Virginia's three Representatives are Democrats. Democrats control everything else: both Senate seats, both chambers of the state legislature, and the top executive branch offices. It is easy to see why, when 60% of the registered voters are Democrats and just 29% Republican.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
3/24/04 American Research Group Link 600 LV, Nader not an option 4% Bush 47% Kerry 46% Bush +1
3/24/04 American Research Group Link 600 LV, Nader an option 4% Bush 46% Kerry 46% Push

Punditry: It's here! It's here! The second most eagerly anticipated state poll in my eyes (I want a New Jersey poll more)- West Virginia! Finally, there is some indication, to tell us which way the state is leaning this election cycle! It is leaning... in no direction!

Imagine that.Toss-up.

(Nader hurts Bush?)


Ohio

F Ohio
Electoral Votes: 20
2000 Result
Bush 50%
Gore 46%

Background: Since Truman, Ohio has gone Democrat three times. Carter edged Ford by an extremely slim margin, and Clinton won twice, both times relying on Perot heavily.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
2/7/03 Ohio Poll Link RV 4% Bush 59% Unnamed Democrat 36% Bush +23
9/19/03 Ohio Poll Link RV 4% Bush 57% Kerry 38% Bush +19
3/16/04 Rasmussen Link 500 LV 4.5% Bush 41% Kerry 45% Kerry +4
3/24/04 Ohio Poll Link 632 RV 3.9% Bush 44% Kerry 46% Kerry +2

Punditry: Another nail biter, which provides no impetus to change the designation from Slight Advantage for Kerry.

While the latest poll shows a nominal lead for Kerry, after looking at the details of the poll it has to be considered to be a favorable poll for the President. For seniors (65 and over), it is an effective tie (Bush 48, Kerry 47, Nader 0). For voters age 46 to 64, Bush leads 51 to 44, with Nader a scant 3%. For ages 30 to 45, Bush again leads by a point, 46 to 45 with Nader getting a mere 2. The entire Kerry lead comes in the under 29 vote, where Bush gets only 22% (compared to Nader's 20%!) while Kerry takes 56%. This age group by far is the least likely to turn out on election day, and this is also the age group that historically is more volitile during a campaign, with their support changing often.


Wisconsin

F Wisconsin
Electoral Votes: 10
2000 Result
Gore 47.83%
Bush 47.61%

Background: I got the *BLEEP* kicked out of me in Wisconsin. Oh wait, sorry. Stripes flashback. Reagan won here twice. Nixon won here three times. LBJ and Carter (against Ford) won here, and then the Democrats have taken the last four elections here. The first of Clinton's wins would have been a loss for him without Perot.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
5/03 Badger Poll Link LV 4% Bush 53% Unnamed Democrat 42% Bush +11
10/28/03 Badger Poll Link LV 4% Bush 46% Unnamed Democrat 45% Bush +1
1/27/04 Badger Poll Link LV 4% Bush 38% Unnamed Democrat 54% Dem +16
3/24/04 American Research Group Link 600 LV 4% Bush 43% Unnamed Democrat 46% Kerry +3

Punditry: Wisconsin's latest poll returns the state smack dab into the heart of the 2004 battleground. Two of the last three polls show this race to be neck and neck. Since the middle one of the three was in Kerry's favor, and this one has a small margin for him, we'll call Wisconsin a Slight Advantage for Kerry.

One interesting tidbit about the ARG poll. According to American Research, "88% of Democrats say they have an unfavorable opinion of Bush", but Kerry only gets 85% support from the Democrats. Similarly, 85% of Republicans have a favorable opinion of George Bush, but he only gets 82% of them as supporters.


Washington

F Washington
Electoral Votes: 11
2000 Result
Gore 50%
Bush 45%

Background: The Democrats have won the last four, and 6 of the last 10, with all four Republican wins coming consecutively (Nixon, Ford, ReaganX2). It is unclear as to if Clinton would have won the first time here sans Perot; it would likely have been extremely close. The Dukakis/Bush race was very close. The Clinton/Dole race was not.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
1/5/04 SurveyUSA NA 975 RV 3.2% Bush 48% Kerry 49% Kerry +1
2/4/04 SurveyUSA Link 975 RV 3.2% Bush 43% Kerry 55% Kerry +12
3/24/04 SurveyUSA Link 698 LV 3.8% Bush 43% Kerry 47% Kerry +4
3/25/04 Rasmussen Link 500 LV 4.5% Bush 44% Kerry 50% Kerry +6

Punditry: Bush has made a nice little comeback in Washington, and the race is now fairly competitive. It does not fit my definition of a battleground (yet) but could easily move there if the trend continues. Leaning towards Kerry. Bush's biggest problem in Washington is that his disapproval numbers are 11 points higher than Kerry's. If he is going to catch him here, it will need to be by driving Kerry's negatives up.


Connecticut

Connecticut
Electoral Votes: 7
2000 Result
Gore 56%
Bush 38%

Background: 3-5-3 in the last 11, with Clinton's first being probably due to the Perot factor.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
3/11/03 Quinnipiac Link RV 3% Bush 37% Unnamed Democrat 51% Dem +14
7/31/03 Quinnipiac Link RV 3% Bush 37% Unnamed Democrat 51% Dem +14
2/26/04 University of Connecticut Link 448 RV 4% Bush 36% Kerry 49% Kerry +13
3/28/04 University of Connecticut Link RV 4% Bush 33% Kerry 52% Kerry +19

Punditry: In stark contrast to New York and New Jersey, Connecticut has not shown any indications of being closer this time than last. The only bright spot in the UConn poll is that Kerry only gets 47% of independents. But even that is only half good, as Bush gets less than 1/3 (many independents in Connecticut are undecided). Strong Advantage for Democrats.


Utah

Utah
Electoral Votes: 5
2000 Result
Bush 67%
Gore 26%

Background: You have to go back to Johnson to find a Democrat win here. Clinton came in third in his first election. This is Republican territory.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
2/19/04 American Research Group Link 404 residents 5% Bush 64% Kerry 31% Bush +33
3/25/04 Dan Jones Link RV 5% Bush 66% Kerry 24% Bush +42

Punditry: Two reasons to love Utah: it polls like this, and Snowbird mountain. Safe for Bush.


Oklahoma

F Oklahoma
Electoral Votes: 7
2000 Result
Bush 60%
Gore 38%

Background: Republicans have won every election here since LBJ.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
3/1/04 Wilson Research NA 300 RV 5.7% Bush 50% Kerry 40% Bush +10

Punditry: The poll is suprisingly tight, which probably has a lot to do with the large margin of error. For prudence, I will downgrade Oklahoma to Strong Advantage for Bush, although I anticipate the margin to open back up within relatively short order.


Pennsylvania

F Pennsylvania
Electoral Votes: 21
2000 Result
Gore 51%
Bush 46%

Background: Democrats have won this state 6 of the last 10 elections, with the first of Clinton's wins being attributable to Ross Perot being on the ballot (19%). Typically, the races in the Keystone state have been close. Pennsylvania started as leaning Bush last time, but has drifted to where it has a slight advantage for the Democrats. Republicans hold a 12-7 advantage in the numbers of Representatives, and hold both Senate seats. They also hold both chambers of the state legislature. The Democrats hold the major executive branch positions except for Attorney General, and have a significant registration advantage (48%-42%).

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
5/13/03 Quinnipiac Link 952 RV 3.2% Bush 56% Kerry 34% Bush +22
10/9/03 Quinnipiac Link 1,116 RV 3% Bush 50% Kerry 43% Bush +7
11/23/03 Muhlenberg College Link 430 RV 4.7% Bush 47% Kerry 40% Bush +7
12/14/03 Quinnipiac Link 1,092 RV 3% Bush 50% Kerry 42% Bush +8
2/18/04 Quinnipiac Ling 1,356 RV 2.7% Bush 45% Kerry 50% Dem +5
2/22/04 Keystone Poll Link 392 RV 4.9% Bush 46% Kerry 47% Dem +1
3/3/04 Pennsylvania Public Mind Link 1750 Adults 2.4% Bush 45% Kerry 47% Kerry +2
3/11/04 Survey USA Link 802 RV 3.5% Bush 47% Kerry 49% Kerry +2
3/15/04 Qunnipiac Link 1,022 RV (Nader not given as an option) 3 Bush 44% Kerry 45% Kerry +1
3/15/04 Qunnipiac Link 1,022 RV (Nader given as an option) 3% Bush 44% Kerry 40% Bush +4
3/29/04 Keystone Poll Link 565 RV 4.1% Bush 46% Kerry 40% Bush +6

Punditry: The Bush campaign is finding surprising resonance in Pennsylvania- surprising considering the difficulties in Ohio. One bit of caution though: while this poll represents a swing from a one point deficit for the President to a six point lead, this is entirely due to Kerry's support level dropping 7 points. Bush's support level in the Keystone Poll has remained constant. Strictly by the classes, I should be moving Pennsylvania into the "leans" designation, but I want one more poll to verify such a lead before I do. For now, Pennsylvania has a Slight Advantage for Bush.


Maryland

F Maryland
Electoral Votes: 10
2000 Result
Gore 57%
Bush 40%

Background: Since the 1960 election, the only Republicans to carry Maryland were Nixon for his re-elect, Reagan for his re-elect, and George H. W. Bush during his first campaign. Clinton did not need Perot to win here either time. This is a Democrat state.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat Margin
1/12/04 Potomac, Inc Link 1,200 LV 2.8% Bush 41% Unnamed Democrat 51% Dem +10
2/27/04 Mason-Dixon Link 625 LV 4% Bush 38% Kerry 47% Kerry +9
3/24/04 Gonzales Research and Marketing Link 825 LV 3.5% Bush 43% Kerry 48% Kerry +5

Punditry: I said last time that the closeness in Maryland surprised me. I said that I suspected it was just an outlier (a poll that is the 1-in-20 that is outside the margin of error). I said that because of that, I would hold off reclassifying Maryland as a leaner until another poll verified the results.

Maryland now Leans for Kerry, and is perilously close to falling into the battleground territory.

Could this be an extension of the same effect I have noticed in New York and New Jersey? Could the attack on the Pentagon on 9/11 be causing some normally Democrat voters to consider the President?


Summary Table
Effective National Popular Results: Bush 45.7%, Kerry 43.3%
Kerry E F Bush
Safe Strong Lean Slight Tossup Slight Lean Strong Safe
MA (12) DE (3) OR (7) NM (5) WV (5) NJ (15) GA (15) SC (8) ND (3)
DC (3) CT (7) CA (55) ME (4) MI (17) NH (4) TN (11) KY (8) AL (9)
RI (4) IL (21) WA (11) MN (10) - PA (21) MO (11) KS (6) MT (3)
HI (4) VT (3) IA (7) FL (27) - - VA (13) MS (6) WY (3)
- - NY (31) OH (20) - - IN (11) SD (3) UT (5)
- - MD (10) WI (10) - - AR (6) LA (9) ID (4)
- - - - - - NC (15) OK (7) AK (3)
- - - - - - AZ (10) - NE (5)
- - - - - - NV (5) - TX (34)
- - - - - - CO (9) - -

Totals
Kerry States Battleground States Bush States

23 34 121 76 22 40 106 47 69

178 138 222

Discuss ECB2004 On Free Republic


Last week's quiz:
Which President was the first to employ a private polling service to advise him on election strategy and public policy?
Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

This week's quiz: According to the Gallup poll, which Presidential race featured the most lead changes from January through election day?


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To: Dales
Better get to work in FL and OH
21 posted on 03/31/2004 9:11:38 AM PST by paul51
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To: third try
Latest EC breakdown over here.
22 posted on 03/31/2004 9:20:45 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Dales
What's interesting here is that Ohio is to the left of Michigan(which is also in bad shape on jobs) on this map. The only time that happened as far back as I can remember is in 1976 with Ohio going for Carter, and Ford going to Michigan(homer vote).

I think most of that is that Cleveland/Toledo/Youngstown/Warren combined have a smaller population than Detroit alone, not to mention Flint, Muskegon, Saginaw, Bay City, Marquette, Lansing/East Lansing, and Ann Arbor. Ohio has a strong Southern Influence in the Cinci area, and West Michigan(although jobs are hurting bad there) has a strong Dutch conservative influence which goes Republican(Holland/Grand Rapids suburbs). The UP and NE Michigan is similar to West Virginia.

I think the winner of both of these states is going to come down to who can get their people out to vote, and which candidate avoids losing their hardcore left/right voters to Nader/Green or Libertarian/Constitution parties.

23 posted on 03/31/2004 9:32:01 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Had to cool me down to take another round, now I'm back in the ring to takea-nother swing")
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To: Dales
Dhould have clarified why I think Michigan is usually to the left of Ohio. To put it bluntly, Detroit, the most Democrat big city in the entire country.
24 posted on 03/31/2004 9:34:36 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Had to cool me down to take another round, now I'm back in the ring to takea-nother swing")
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To: Dales
Is it likely Kerry was up, overall, in the big 17 mid-February? Yes. Was he up by anything approaching 28 points? Not even close.

Like I keep telling my wife, "be skeptical of anything you hear in the major news media, but be particularly skeptical of anything with numbers attached to it -- reporters are notoriously lazy/sloppy/stupid when it comes to statistics, percentages, ecomonomics, etc.

25 posted on 03/31/2004 9:35:45 AM PST by Califelephant (John Kerry has more positions than the Kama Sutra)
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To: Dan from Michigan
yes....big time labor unions...but this time...will the rank and file follow the leadership...when they haven't, big Republican landslides...
26 posted on 03/31/2004 9:39:46 AM PST by Keith (IT'S ABOUT THE JUDGES)
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To: Dan from Michigan
yes....big time labor unions...but this time...will the rank and file follow the leadership...when they haven't, big Republican landslides...
27 posted on 03/31/2004 9:39:55 AM PST by Keith (IT'S ABOUT THE JUDGES)
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To: Keith
Gore the best radio commercial in 2000 that I've ever heard. I heard it on Lansing radio(rock station), but I suspect it was all over the Detroit area. I knew he got him after this. Lee Iacocca did commercials for Bush. Gore came out with "Just an auto worker". Some autoworker came on and ragged on Bush. He said something to the effect on with Kyoto "Either we can make the cars cleaner here with our union members, or we let the JAPANESE do it". It brought back bad memories of the early 90's and Japan/US trade problems, and Bush's dad was subtlely bashed there as well.

Bush had a good radio ad similar to that on taxes I heard on a commute. It was a former cop with a very thick blue collar South Boston accent bashing Kerry's record.

28 posted on 03/31/2004 9:51:13 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Had to cool me down to take another round, now I'm back in the ring to takea-nother swing")
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To: brothers4thID
Any democrat money spent in the state will be in the 4th and 6th district races.

They will also spend some $ trying to knock off Ann in the 3rd. They will fail as usual.

29 posted on 03/31/2004 9:56:00 AM PST by rhinohunter (Toomey for Senate!!!)
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To: Dales
So Mi and Wv decide election 2004. Probably good news for the Dems. Bush will have to work harder than some people had originally thought.
30 posted on 03/31/2004 10:17:52 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Kerry 2004 - "I won't kiss your baby, but I'll sure sleep with your girlfriend!")
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To: Dales
Monte Carlo Simulations:

From the perspective of the probability of Bush winning and anchoring on Tossup, I use a progressive increase where each category is twice the prior. Slight=+-5%, Lean=+-10%, Strong=+-20%, Safe=+-40%.

This results in the following probability scale:

Safe Bush=90%
Strong Bush=70%
Lean Bush=60%
Slight Bush=55%
Tossup=50%
Slight Kerry=45%
Lean Kerry=40%
Strong Kerry=30%
Safe Kerry=10%

My Monte Carlo results based on this week's movements:

Electoral Vote Trends
based on 100,000 simulated elections
Date Bush Electoral Votes Kerry Electoral Votes Probability Of Winning
2/23/2004 280 258 57.29%
2/29/2004 283 255 59.20%
3/7/2004 281 257 57.85%
3/14/2004 281 257 57.84%
3/17/2004 283 255 59.68%
3/24/2004 283 255 59.31%
3/31/2004 286 252 62.22%

31 posted on 03/31/2004 10:21:50 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: Sloth
"Maryland looks too dark, too."

Not at all. I was born there. MD is as lost as CA, NY, and Mass. Period.

--Boris

32 posted on 03/31/2004 10:40:48 AM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: Political Junkie Too
i like home brewed predictions with off beat formulas...Kinda like my brackets in March Madness!

Two thoughts.......

I have Bush with 274..........

And I cant figure out why Florida would be leaning Kerry.....? A "Northerner", Bush does well with older pollsters and gave them their drug discount, Jeb "FRICKIN" Bush is running the state with great fiscal numbers as well as the best employed state in the union....! So you are telling me Florida is leaning towards a Kerry~Bin Laden 04 ticket!???
33 posted on 03/31/2004 10:55:18 AM PST by Republic Rocker
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To: BroncosFan
Ping.
34 posted on 03/31/2004 11:01:52 AM PST by Modernman (Chthulhu for President! Why Vote for the Lesser Evil?)
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To: boris
Boris,

Ordinarily, I would say the People's Democratic State of Maryland is almost as certain as DC to go for the Dem candidate. However, a recent poll showed Bush pulling almost within the margin of error to Kerry. I am hoping that the Dems feel the need to spend some campaign cash here to shore up the base. That money would have to be drawn from another race, so (even if the PDS of MD goes for Kerry) a closer contest could do some good somewhere else.

Then again we elected a Republican governor because the Dem candidate was such a loser, so I suppose miracles do happen.
35 posted on 03/31/2004 11:05:56 AM PST by RebelBanker (Negotiate? [BANG] Anybody else want to negotiate?)
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To: Republic Rocker
And I cant figure out why Florida would be leaning Kerry.....?

You'd have to read through Dales' postings to find the rationale for Florida. I just report the numbers I find here.

I was surprised, too, given the Republican leaning of the legislature and the governor. However, the people of the state did split in 2000, although they rejected McBride in 2002. It's hard to say how the New York transplants in South Florida will go in 2004. Personally, I don't think anybody expected Florida to be the battleground of 2000. In fact, it wasn't really Florida's doing, it was Tennessee's and Arkansas' doing -- Florida backed into the battleground. I don't expect to see Florida do the same thing this time around, even though the Democrats will try to evoke some retribution angle there.

We'll see. Maybe the people are tired of Bush as gov, but with jobs increasing there and low taxes, they'd be throwing out the baby with the bathwater if they succumb to national political pressures to their own detriment. Still, the season is young and I expect to see a lot of swings in these predictions between now and the conventions. After that, I think the numbers will settle into a trend.

I'm just basically calibrating my tool right now.

-PJ

36 posted on 03/31/2004 11:22:44 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: Dales
Thank you.
37 posted on 03/31/2004 11:27:09 AM PST by miltonim
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To: Political Junkie Too
Read the job numbers that came out from the BLS this morning. Kerry has the same change in Florida that an ice cube has in August.
38 posted on 03/31/2004 11:45:08 AM PST by republicanwizard
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To: Dales
Self-ping for further reading.
39 posted on 03/31/2004 11:53:56 AM PST by steveegg (Radical Islam has more in common with Islamic populations than the mainstream media has with America)
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To: Modernman
I respect the fact that this guy realizes his NJ poll showing Bush up is probably screwy. Also, I think Wash state will be very close and Bush could win it.
40 posted on 03/31/2004 12:42:13 PM PST by BroncosFan ("Friends help friends move. Real friends help you move bodies.")
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