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Spain's Surrender (Important)
Front Page Magazine ^ | March 18, 2004 | Jamie Glazov and Victor Hanson

Posted on 03/19/2004 5:11:27 PM PST by swilhelm73

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1 posted on 03/19/2004 5:11:28 PM PST by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73
Bump.
2 posted on 03/19/2004 5:19:51 PM PST by Rocko
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To: swilhelm73
What an extraordinary article by a clearly sharp and lucid mind.

Bumped, bookmarked and emailed to my Liberal family members!
3 posted on 03/19/2004 5:21:36 PM PST by freedumb2003 (If your cat has babies in the oven you don't call them biscuits!)
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Appeasment? Europe and America have armed forces and prop up dictators all over the Middle East. The terrorism we experience is a direct result of our being there in the first place. What Spain did in the last election is hardly "appeasement". It is reality. Would over 200 Spainards have been dead if they did not have troops in Iraq and backed the USA? Yes or No? Would 3000 Americans have been murdered on 9/11 if we didn't have troops in Saudi Arabia and backed dictators all over that region? No. And that is not "blaming America" as Buchanan so ruffed up the stupid Hannity on his own radio show today.
4 posted on 03/19/2004 5:25:23 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
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To: swilhelm73
Read this last nite...VDH excellent as usual! BTTT
5 posted on 03/19/2004 5:34:29 PM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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Remarkable. Did you read the article or just come to those conclusions before hand to save time?
6 posted on 03/19/2004 5:40:12 PM PST by Adrastus (If you don't like my attitude, talk to some one else.)
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Appeasment? Europe and America have armed forces and prop up dictators all over the Middle East. The terrorism we experience is a direct result of our being there in the first place. What Spain did in the last election is hardly "appeasement". It is reality. Would over 200 Spainards have been dead if they did not have troops in Iraq and backed the USA? Yes or No? Would 3000 Americans have been murdered on 9/11 if we didn't have troops in Saudi Arabia and backed dictators all over that region? No. And that is not "blaming America" as Buchanan so ruffed up the stupid Hannity on his own radio show today.

7 posted on 03/19/2004 5:43:55 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
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To: Adrastus
The only people not at fault in Terrorist attacks are The Terrorists themselves.

Ain't that right?</sarcasm>

8 posted on 03/19/2004 5:47:36 PM PST by Redcoat LI ( "help to drive the left one into the insanity.")
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To: visualops
ping for self
9 posted on 03/19/2004 5:48:26 PM PST by visualops (Two Wrongs don't make a right- they make the Democratic Ticket for 2004!)
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To: swilhelm73
My grandmother used to tell me about how she felt when she woke up one morning and heard on the radio that France fell to Germany. She said it was just the day or so before that the Nazi's were hitting Paris and she thought, what? Did they not even try to fight?

I know EXACTLY how she felt that day when I actually heard the news Monday that Spain voted for Socialists because of the attacks. Somone called in on a show today and said that he talked to someone in Spain and asked them why? She said, well, if you don't bother them, the terrorists will leave you alone. Oh, ignorance is surely bliss, is it not?
10 posted on 03/19/2004 5:51:42 PM PST by sandbar
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To: Burkeman1
The people who scream about the United States backing dictators in the world are the same people who scream when the US removes dictators.

The only thing that would have prevented terrorism from cropping up in the Middle East would have been Western occupation from the Middle Ages on. Keeping our hands off of the Islamic theocracies has been the problem. It's called appeasement. Direct action must be taken sooner or later. We are taking that action now. This is still sooner than "Old Europe" would like, but too late for some of us who have been wincing every time an Islamothug hijacks a plane, kills a hostage, or blows up a building.

We have a self-declared. The only thing for us to do is to defeat them. Our problem has been a lack of action in the past. That is now being corrected.
11 posted on 03/19/2004 5:57:39 PM PST by EvilOverlord (America....a shining city on a hill...freedom burning bright)
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Hey, come on. All we have to do is be nice to them. These are civilized people. We can reason with them....As long as we maintain superior fire power.

You know, the amazing thing about these buzzards is that they don't ever change. All they understand is crushing defeat. Or as a friend of mine put it (referencing some folks who were trying to get to a point of negotiation we us) "Give 'em napalm, and plenty of it."

12 posted on 03/19/2004 5:57:46 PM PST by Adrastus (If you don't like my attitude, talk to some one else.)
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Appeasment? Europe and America have armed forces and prop up dictators all over the Middle East. The terrorism we experience is a direct result of our being there in the first place. What Spain did in the last election is hardly "appeasement". It is reality. Would over 200 Spainards have been dead if they did not have troops in Iraq and backed the USA? Yes or No? Would 3000 Americans have been murdered on 9/11 if we didn't have troops in Saudi Arabia and backed dictators all over that region? No. And that is not "blaming America" as Buchanan so ruffed up the stupid Hannity on his own radio show today.


Of course your blaming America as all liberals do. No matter that we were over in the middle east, nothing excuses 9/11 NOTHING. I have family fighting in Iraq.
13 posted on 03/19/2004 5:57:50 PM PST by St.Mark
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No. And that is not "blaming America" as Buchanan so ruffed up the stupid Hannity on his own radio show today.

Actually, I'm a former Buchanan Brigadier and I thought Pat had is butt handed to him by Hannity today. It was embarassing, frankly. Pat sounded old and tired today. I felt bad for him.
14 posted on 03/19/2004 5:59:00 PM PST by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment NOW!)
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We disagree then. Hannity was his usual stupid self. "So you are blaming America first?" Pathetic. Buchanan was so over his head it was pitiful.
15 posted on 03/19/2004 6:04:54 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
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Your friend is right.

No matter what anybody does,they will always have a grievance they think is worth killing us over.

They need to be convinced that it is not worth it to kill us.

The sooner the better.
16 posted on 03/19/2004 6:12:54 PM PST by Redcoat LI ( "help to drive the left one into the insanity.")
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Thank you for sharing your wisdom again. I wish I had a parakeet so I could print out that collection of ignorant opinion and put it to good use.
17 posted on 03/19/2004 6:14:03 PM PST by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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To: swilhelm73
I especially liked the part about letting Europe defend itself!

Thanks for posting this.
18 posted on 03/19/2004 6:15:08 PM PST by Letitring
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To: Publius6961
Again? You follow me stalker?
19 posted on 03/19/2004 6:20:12 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
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To: Redcoat LI
To paraphrase the President, They are more interested in death, we are more interested in life. For reasons see Victor Davis Hansons book "Carnage and Culture." We need to get a good understanding of the Islamic/Eastern mindset.
20 posted on 03/19/2004 6:37:11 PM PST by Adrastus (If you don't like my attitude, talk to some one else.)
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