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Will We Face a Madrid Mistake?
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | [March 18, 2004] | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 03/16/2004 9:13:25 PM PST by Congressman Billybob

Spain has just had its own 9/11, literally. The population of the US is almost eight times as large as that of Spain. So a fair comparison is that on 3/11 Spain suffered the equivalent of 1,600 dead and 12,000 injured. And in response to that, Spain has retreated from the war against terror. Does the US face the possibility of a Madrid mistake, especially in the weeks leading up to the November presidential election?

I had the extreme displeasure last week of hearing Professor Beau Grosscup of California State University at Chico, arguing on TV that we should “understand” the position of the terrorists, and on that basis we should “negotiate” with them. The host of the program on which this educated fool appeared missed the opportunity to ask the good professor whether we should have negotiated with Emperor Tojo, or with Der Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, because that’s exactly where his views would have led sixty years ago.

Grosscup is a “Professor of International Relations.” To have a clue about how anyone could look at modern history as he does, here is the title of his doctoral dissertation: “Isolationism and American Foreign Policy. A study of the debate over isolationist trends in US foreign policy, utilizing a Wittgensteinian scheme of explication and a comparative analysis of Chinese, Japanese, British and US foreign policies.” As Tom Lehrer once said of mathematicians, it is important to understand “how they got that way.”

The situation in Spain prior to its 3/11 bombings was that Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar’s Popular Party was headed for a close but solid win. Mr. Aznar, who had been a staunch ally of the US and a supporter of the war on terrorism, was expected to hand the reins of government over to his hand-picked successor. Then came the attacks. Three days later the Spaniards voted out the Popular Party and handed the government over to the Socialist, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, who had announced in advance that he would pull Spain’s token 1,500 troops out of Iraq. It was, as many commentators have pointed out, a “clear win for the terrorists.”

What if anything does the Spanish experience suggest, as Americans approach our own election in the fall?

Terrorism is not a new phenomenon. There are various types of terrorists, but they share one common characteristic. They will murder Americans in the largest numbers they can, with the goal of forcing the US to change various of its foreign policies. (Some have “loftier” goals, which are either the destruction of America, or the destruction of Western Civilization generally.) The principal source of terrorists is Al Qaeda, plus support from some nations like Iran, the Palestinian Authority, and Syria, and apparently in cooperation with other groups like ETA, and the IRA. Because of their common intent and methods, I describe them collectively as “the terrorists.”

What is the experience of the terrorists in attacks on Americans? It’s almost universal that America can be backed off, with the blood of its own citizens and soldiers. The Beirut Airport bombing: President Reagan ordered the retreat. The Somalia slaughter: Bill Clinton ordered the retreat. The respective bombings of the Khobar Towers and the USS Cole: Bill Clinton did relatively nothing in response.

Based on experience, terrorists could take the American response to 9/11 – to fight back vigorously – as an exception to the general rule that America is a paper tiger. They could well conclude that another series of attacks, culminating with multiple events of mass murder in the weeks before our election, could produce a Madrid result in the US.

This assumption requires only two preconditions: that the American election is close, and that if John Kerry should defeat President Bush, American policy will then retreat from all-out assault on the terrorists. My personal view is that the 2004 election will not be close, and that President Bush will be reelected in an Electoral College landslide. But only a few commentators share that view. Therefore, until and unless polls close to the election should show that a landslide is in the offing, take it as true that the election will be close.

Then the question of whether the terrorists will attack again in the US with intent to change American foreign policy depends primarily on the apparent views of John Kerry, the soon-to-be Democrat candidate for President. Kerry’s mantra is “multinationalism.” But in his hands that word does not mean what the dictionary says, “involving several, or many, nations.”

The terrorists have just used mass murder to pick off Spain from the list of nations supporting the war on terror (unless NAME changes his stated position). The proposed withdrawal of Spain has taken down two of three Central American nations which follow Spain’s lead. But the war on terror still involves about 50 nations. It was, and is, multinational.

The Kerry position is explained more in his references to the United Nations. To date, to the extent that his position on this or any other subject can be pinned down, Kerry wants the US to cease being a global leader and instead to act against terrorism only if the UN first takes a decisive stand. The history of the United Nations, and of its failed predecessor the League of Nations, is almost universal in that it will not act decisively on the subject of war. The only exception is the Korean War, when the USSR quit the Security Council in a huff, China was still represented by an anti-communist government, and the resolution to go to war in Korea therefore passed.

That exception has no application today. To wait for decisive action by the UN is simply a more “nuanced” form of retreat. When, not if, the UN failed to act, the US would then begin its retreat, in a Kerry administration. We would then have our own Madrid mistake.

So, with the sad example of Spain fresh in mind, and given the current situation in the American presidential election, it’s logical to expect the terrorists to do the following: Send four or so independent teams into the US (through Canada or Mexico, take your choice). Each team would have a separate assignment with no knowledge of any of the others, except they would have a single target date for the attacks. Clearly, the terrorists have the money for the quarter-million dollar or so stake for each mission, and have the expendable men to form the attack teams.

Since 9/11, all terrorist attacks on American interests have occurred overseas. There are good reasons for that. Security on the home front is better than anywhere else in the world. Technology is better. The various federal and state police agencies are better trained and more reliable than those elsewhere in the world. American interests everywhere in the world are “soft targets” compared to targets in the US.

But if the operational goal of the terrorists is to bloody the nose of America, as it has just done with Spain, they must attack in Washington, D.C., the heart of the enemy. I don’t think such attacks, if they come, will be restricted to D.C. But the Capitol will be on the short list, with perhaps multiple teams assigned there to assure at least one “success.”

Because security is best on the home front, the terrorists are reluctant to attack here. They have lost more of their assets and personnel in (failed) attempts in the US in the past year than in their more “successful” such attacks in Iraq. The terrorists are inflicting a higher blood price when they commit their efforts elsewhere in the world, than in the US. They would have to have some promise of a Spanish result here, to commit to new and massive attacks on American soil.

What can we do, as Americans, to lower the odds that such attacks will be made here in an effort to change our foreign policies? There are only two steps to change that equation in the minds of the terrorists. One is to smoke out the position of candidate Kerry, which could be a long and laborious task as recent events demonstrate; to get him to commit to continuing the war on terrorism REGARDLESS of what the UN does or doesn’t do.

Failing that, the only other alternative is to bury candidate Kerry in the polls, so it is clear even to the terrorists that he will not possibly be elected. That way, no attacks here could possibly change American foreign policy to their benefit. The terrorists need to know, well in advance of the 2004 election, that they cannot force us to make the Madrid mistake.

To begin the process of (partially) inoculating ourselves against such attacks based on such thinking by the terrorists, this question needs to be asked of candidate Kerry at every possible opportunity, until a clear and absolute answer emerges:

“Senator Kerry, if terrorists launch multiple and major attacks in Washington, D.C. and other cities in the days or weeks leading up to the November election, what precise steps would you take as President in response to such attacks if you are elected? Please discuss Spain in your answer.”

I believe that at least some members of the press will recognize the critical nature of this subject, and will ask this question until a clear answer is obtained. Since thousands of American lives are potentially at risk, I hope the entire American press will not fail on this point. Most will. Let’s see if some leaders arises in the American press.

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About the Author: John Armor is an author and columnist on politics and history. He currently has an Exploratory Committee to run for Congress.

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©) 2004, Congressman Billybob & John Armor. All rights reserved.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; alqaeda; elections; iraq; johnkerry; kerry; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; retreat; spain; spanishelection; terrorism
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This is only the third time in eight years that I've written more than one column a week. This one had to be written, is timely, and is on a broad subject of obvious interest to the FR community.

Hope you find this worthwhile.

John / Billybob

1 posted on 03/16/2004 9:13:25 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Constitution Day; mhking; JohnHuang2
Folks,

Y'all (and other FReepers) may have felt short changed that I hadn't done a column this week on hard-nosed politics, foreign or domestic. That lack is supplied by the column above. Please ping it out if you consider it worthwhile.

John / Billybob

2 posted on 03/16/2004 9:16:41 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
bump - brilliant, as usual
3 posted on 03/16/2004 9:21:29 PM PST by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Let’s see if some leaders arises in the American press.

Assuming you are referring to the mainstream press, it would be a "first". Their heads are so deeply buried into Kerry's butt, they could never see beyond their own agendas, namely, protect Kerry/democrats/socialists/elitists at all cost.

4 posted on 03/16/2004 9:32:00 PM PST by Stewball
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To: Congressman Billybob
Bump
5 posted on 03/16/2004 9:32:42 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Support Our Troops! ... Thrash the demRats in November!!! ... Beat BoXer!!!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
That guy, Beau, was a total tool. I could not believe what I was hearing. What's worse is that this jerk is most likely selling this stupidity to the Uni students @ Chico.
6 posted on 03/16/2004 9:34:04 PM PST by Jon1679
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To: Congressman Billybob
Spain is such a nothing country. I can't even find a single product of theirs to boycot. We have truly hurt the quizling French by boycotting their products. Can anyone help me out. Do the silly spaniard actually export anything?
7 posted on 03/16/2004 9:58:35 PM PST by mercy
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To: Congressman Billybob
That's an excellent question, albeit one I don't think there's an easy answer to. If there's another 9/11 here on American soil, what do you expect even Bush to do? With so many troops tied down in stabilizing Iraq (a long-term project), what other country can we invade? If it turns out the terrorists were trained and recruited in a nominally allied nation (i.e. Pakistan), we're screwed. The enemy we now face is a borderless, protean entity. We've already taken out his main sanctuary and training ground (Afghanistan) and set an irresistible bait for him (Iraq). If he still manages to hit us here, we're obviously not going to pull out of Iraq - even Kerry hasn't hinted he'd do that. But what additional action can we take? I'm afraid our choices are painfully limited.
8 posted on 03/16/2004 10:01:39 PM PST by Filibuster_60
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To: mercy
No need to boycott a socialist nation - they'll do the grunt work themselves.
9 posted on 03/16/2004 10:03:14 PM PST by Filibuster_60
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To: mercy
omelets?
10 posted on 03/16/2004 10:09:40 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: Congressman Billybob
I believe that Spain needs the US a lot more than the US needs Spain.

Having achieved a great political victory with minimal losses, the islamics will soon come back to the well. They want Spain to be a muslim country again.

Look for demands to increase muslim immigration with threats of more bombs if this is not done. Free immigration from Morocco and Algeria will be their ultimate demand.

The real question is how should the US respond to the inevitable Spanish plea for help? It won't come this year, but sometime in the next few years the muslims will be back knocking on the door again.

Kerry would simply give in & supply aid. Hopefully Bush will demand concessions to teach the Spanish voters that the cost of cowardice is higher than the price of courage.

11 posted on 03/16/2004 10:36:38 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Congressman Billybob; xm177e2; mercy; Wait4Truth; hole_n_one; GretchenEE; Clinton's a rapist; ...

Congressman Billybob Mega ping!!


12 posted on 03/16/2004 10:38:34 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: mercy
Boycott Spanish whine.
13 posted on 03/16/2004 10:40:06 PM PST by AZLiberty (Capitalism presumes we possess a traditional endowment of morals -- F. A. Hayek)
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To: Congressman Billybob
The polls in Spain could have been wrong and the election was never going to be close.
That Aznar's Popular Party was going to lose anyway and the bombing made no difference.

If the bombing DID make a difference, I find it incredible that the people of Spain were so undecided about how to vote 3 days before an election. I find it incredible that so many people, with solid beliefs one way or the other, could be so swayed to change those beliefs/commitments because of the terrorist attack.

I think another attack on the US would have just the opposite effect.
It would so piss us off and strengthen our resolve, that we would be even MORE united behind President Bush.

As for the unlikely event of a Kerry win...I think Kerry would have a tough go of his appeasement policy of "terrorism being a police & intelligence solution", especially with the repubs picking up MORE seats in both the house & the senate.

Kerry would ESPECIALLY be in trouble with that policy, should the US get hit again.
For all of Kerry's bluster, he knows that if the fight is brought to us, the American people wont let him do anything but bring the hammer down...again and again.
14 posted on 03/16/2004 10:40:32 PM PST by stylin19a (Is it vietnam yet ?)
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To: JohnHuang2
Bump!
15 posted on 03/16/2004 10:45:27 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Bump
16 posted on 03/16/2004 10:48:41 PM PST by AGreatPer (Rush was right, it is fun watching Rats try to swim)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Well reasoned,thought provoking, and spot on. Now, how are we going to convince the Bushbashers here, that it is past time to unite?
17 posted on 03/16/2004 10:49:47 PM PST by nopardons
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To: AGreatPer
Volley bump!
18 posted on 03/16/2004 10:51:34 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: nopardons
Now, how are we going to convince the Bushbashers here, that it is past time to unite?

You've got me! It's incredibly stupid to hate someone so much, and not vote for him (Bush), when you know the alternative.

19 posted on 03/16/2004 10:54:49 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Pray for America and Israel)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Yes,that's so;however,it's a hard sell here. Ask me..........I've been trying it all night and it's futile!

Some don't think there's a difference between our president and Kerry and others have " principles" or "integrity", or some other Barbra Streisand excuse. to keep wearing blinkers.

20 posted on 03/16/2004 11:07:04 PM PST by nopardons
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