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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread 5
CNN ^ | March 12, 2004

Posted on 03/12/2004 8:23:06 PM PST by thecabal

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- This week's deadly train bombings in Spain will not lead to a rise in the U.S. color-coded terror threat alert system, a Department of Homeland Security spokesman said Friday.

"Based on the current intelligence, we have no specific indicators that terrorist groups are considering such an attack in the U.S. in the near term," said department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse.

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NewsMax’s second source put it this way: “Whatever they do, it will be planned to help Kerry and hurt Bush.”

What were Hillary's words? Something unforeseen will help Kerry win

4,681 posted on 03/31/2004 1:50:03 AM PST by JustPiper (Part of being sane is being a little bit crazy)
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Please delete this post with my apologies for insensitivity
4,682 posted on 03/31/2004 1:55:39 AM PST by JustPiper (Part of being sane is being a little bit crazy)
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To: LayoutGuru2
I only listened to a portion of it as well, but yes he did mention that it was a repost of an older thread. He also mentioned that it had been reposted on at least 4 Arabic forums yesterday. That concerned me too - why were they reposting this dream/vision, with a few very subtle changes from the original? Multiple posts would concern me too.

The Kitty Hawk was probably the safest place in the world yesterday - a lightning bug wouldn't have gotten near the thing after NEIN sent that alert up. If I had my husband or son on the Kitty Hark, I'd certainly want to know when someone was threatening it.

The Kitty Hawk seems to be a recurring theme - I've seen various predictions on the Arabic boards where the jihadis claim that they will destroy it.

4,683 posted on 03/31/2004 2:21:11 AM PST by StillProud2BeFree
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Has anyone read this?:


Terrorist Hunter
The Extraordinary Story of a Woman Who Went Undercover to Infiltrate the Radical Islamic Groups Operating in America
(Hardcover)
by Anonymous

Terrorist Hunter provides fascinating and shocking information on how federal agencies, chiefly the FBI and the State Department, repeatedly ignored or mishandled important information she provided. She reveals her role in exposing terrorist supporters who the White House considered to be friends, in preventing the government from funding terrorist activities, and in the deportation of terrorists and their supporters. She also reveals how she discovered a billion-dollar scheme that rich Saudi Arabians set up to filter money to terrorist groups, through charities and businesses in the United States -- information that the FBI sat on for years, until after 9-11.
4,684 posted on 03/31/2004 3:02:08 AM PST by JustPiper (Part of being sane is being a little bit crazy)
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Now we can lay us down to sleep


By Wesley Pruden


Nothing is as powerful as an idea whose time has come, unless it's the current that washes an idea past its prime out into a sea of forgetfulness big enough and deep enough to swallow a lot of ideas past their sell-by date.

Only yesterday — no more than a fortnight ago — John Kerry and the Democratic acolytes in the dominant media were having a high old time making sport of the notion that terrorism is a grim threat to life as we have known it. Terrorists, if there really were any, could be dealt with as "a law-enforcement problem." Pretty soon the cops would relegate al Qaeda and the Ba'athists in Iraq, the train bombers in Madrid and Islamists everywhere else as merely fodder for another episode of "Law & Order."

Entire Story:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/pruden.htm
4,685 posted on 03/31/2004 3:16:58 AM PST by JustPiper (Part of being sane is being a little bit crazy)
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To: Cindy; WestCoastGal; MamaDearest; Pegita
Pegita prayers please for these poor souls and others that are in harms way trying to do good for others.

Iraqis Drag Four Corpses Through Streets

By SAMEER N. YACOUB, Associated Press Writer

FALLUJAH, Iraq - Jubilant residents dragged the charred corpses of four foreigners — one a woman, at least one an American — through the streets Wednesday and hanged them from the bridge spanning the Euphrates River. Five American troops died in a roadside bombing nearby.

The four foreigners were killed in a rebel ambush of their SUVs in Fallujah, a Sunni Triangle city about 35 miles west of Baghdad and scene of some of the worst violence on both sides of the conflict since the beginning of the American occupation a year ago.

It was reminiscent of the 1993 scene in Somalia, when a mob dragged the corpse of a U.S. soldier through the streets of Mogadishu, eventually leading to the American withdrawal from the African nation.

In one of the bloodiest days for the U.S. military this year, five American troops died when their military vehicle ran over a bomb in a separate incident 12 miles to the northwest, among the reed-lined roads running through some of Iraq's richest farmland.

Residents said the bomb attack occurred in Malahma, 12 miles northwest of Fallujah, where anti-U.S. insurgents are active. U.S. Marines operate in the area, but it was unclear whether the slain troops were Marines.

Chanting "Fallujah is the graveyard of Americans," residents cheered after the grisly assault on two four-wheel-drive civilian vehicles, which left both in flames. Others chanted, "We sacrifice our blood and souls for Islam."

Associated Press Television News pictures showed one man beating a charred corpse with a metal pole. Others tied a yellow rope to a body, hooked it to a car and dragged it down the main street of town. Two blackened and mangled corpses were hung from a green iron bridge across the Euphrates.

"The people of Fallujah hanged some of the bodies on the old bridge like slaughtered sheep," resident Abdul Aziz Mohammed said. Some of the corpses were dismembered, he said.

Beneath the bodies, a man held a printed sign with a skull and crossbones and the phrase "Fallujah is the cemetery for Americans."

APTN showed the charred remains of three slain men. Some were wearing flak jackets, said resident Safa Mohammedi.

One resident displayed what appeared to be dog tags taken from one body. Residents also said there were weapons in the targeted cars. APTN showed one American passport near a body and a U.S. Department of Defense identification card belonging to another man.

U.S. military officials in Washington said the situation was still confused but they did not think the victims were American soldiers and believed the SUVs were not American military vehicles.

Witnesses said the two vehicles were attacked with small arms fire and rocket propelled grenades.

Hours after the attack, the city was quiet. No U.S. troops or Iraqi police were seen in the area.

Fallujah is in the so-called Sunni Triangle, where support for Saddam Hussein was strong and rebels often carry out attacks against American forces.

In nearby Ramadi, insurgents threw a grenade at a government building and Iraqi security forces returned fire Wednesday, witnesses said. It was not clear if there were casualties.

Also in Ramadi, a roadside bomb exploded near a U.S. convoy, witnesses said. U.S. officials in Baghdad could not confirm the attack.

On Tuesday in Ramadi, one U.S. soldier was killed and another wounded in a roadside bombing, said Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt.

Northeast of Baghdad, in the city of Baqouba on Wednesday, a suicide bomber blew up explosives in his car when he was near a convoy of government vehicles, wounding 14 Iraqis and killing himself, officials said.

The attacked convoy is normally used to transport the Diala provincial governor, Abdullah al-Joubori, but he was elsewhere at the time, said police Col. Ali Hossein.

On Tuesday, a suicide bombing outside the house of a police chief in Hillah, about 60 miles south of Baghdad, killed the attacker and wounded seven others.

A bomb exploded late Tuesday in a movie theater that had closed for the night. Two bystanders were wounded by flying glass, said its owner, Ghani Mohammed.

The latest violence came two days after Carina Perelli, the head of a U.N. electoral team, said better security is vital if Iraq wants to hold elections by a Jan. 31 deadline. The polls are scheduled to follow a June 30 transfer of sovereignty to an Iraqi government.

Top U.S. administrator L. Paul Bremer said Tuesday he had appointed 21 anti-corruption inspectors general to government departments to try to prevent fraud. More will be named in coming days, he said.

The inspectors will work with two other newly formed, independent agencies. Together, they will "form an integrated approach intended to combat corruption at every level of government across the country," Bremer said.

Bomb Kills Five U.S. Soldiers in Iraq

Wed Mar 31, 4:52 AM ET

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A bomb exploded under a U.S. military vehicle west of Baghdad on Wednesday, killing five soldiers, the military said. At least four people, including one American and possibly other foreign nationals, were killed in a separate attack. Crowds burned and mutilated their bodies.

The explosive device that killed the American soldiers blew up when their vehicle ran over it, U.S. Army Col. Jill Morgenthaler said in Baghdad. The attack occurred in Anbar province, which encompasses Fallujah, Ramadi and other towns where anti-U.S. insurgents are active.

Residents said the bomb attack occurred in Malahma, 12 miles northwest of Fallujah.

In an unrelated attack Wednesday, gunmen in Fallujah attacked two civilian cars that residents said were carrying foreign nationals. The occupants of the cars were killed and their vehicles were set on fire. Witnesses saw at least four bodies.

Footage from Associated Press Television News showed a charred body of one of the slain men, and the targeted vehicles in flames nearby. Some of the slain men were wearing flak jackets, said Safa Mohammedi, a resident.

APTN footage showed one American passport near a body.

Another resident, Abdul Aziz Mohammed, said angry crowds dragged the bodies through the streets, dismembered them and hanged some of the mutilated corpses. One man beat a corpse with a metal pole. Residents tied a cord to another body, tied it to a car and drove it down a street.

"The people of Fallujah hanged some of the bodies on the old bridge like slaughtered sheep," Mohammed said. "I saw it myself."

The identities of the slain men were unclear. One resident displayed what appeared to be dog tags taken from one body. Residents also said there were weapons in the targeted cars.

4,688 posted on 03/31/2004 6:57:36 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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4,689 posted on 03/31/2004 6:58:24 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (The RIGHT of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.)
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To: WestCoastGal; rickylc
I believe that this AirTran situation happened on a flight from Florida. It was one of those stories that you hear for one or two broadcasts and then no additional information is given. I did a number of searches for info. yesterday, and found nothing, even on the ABC website. The newscast was on an ABC affiliate.
4,691 posted on 03/31/2004 7:06:57 AM PST by all4one ("...a politician is to be judged by the animosities he excites among his opponents" Sir W. Churchill)
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To: All
Hey everyone:

If you haven't already, checkout Patroit1998's post #167 at the refinery explosion thread here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1108281/posts?page=167

I've invited Patriot1998 to join us. Seems like this freeper has some good info.
4,692 posted on 03/31/2004 7:07:09 AM PST by appalachian_dweller (The RIGHT of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.)
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To: TexKat
Chanting "Fallujah is the graveyard of Americans," residents cheered after the grisly assault on two four-wheel-drive civilian vehicles, which left both in flames. Others chanted, "We sacrifice our blood and souls for Islam."

Associated Press Television News pictures showed one man beating a charred corpse with a metal pole. Others tied a yellow rope to a body, hooked it to a car and dragged it down the main street of town. Two blackened and mangled corpses were hung from a green iron bridge across the Euphrates.

"The people of Fallujah hanged some of the bodies on the old bridge like slaughtered sheep," resident Abdul Aziz Mohammed said. Some of the corpses were dismembered, he said.

Beneath the bodies, a man held a printed sign with a skull and crossbones and the phrase "Fallujah is the cemetery for Americans."

APTN showed the charred remains of three slain men. Some were wearing flak jackets, said resident Safa Mohammedi.

One resident displayed what appeared to be dog tags taken from one body. Residents also said there were weapons in the targeted cars. APTN showed one American passport near a body and a U.S. Department of Defense (news - web sites) identification card belonging to another man. ===============

FOR EMPHASIS. DEVILISH COWARDS. NUKE 'EM. THE ENTIRE TOWN. MAke it an example.

4,693 posted on 03/31/2004 7:22:25 AM PST by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: WestCoastGal; Cindy; MamaDearest
ATROCITY IN FALLUJAH RAISES QUESTIONS

This morning,2 unarmored,unescorted vehicles were amushed in Fallujah,in the heart of the "Sunni Triangle" - a location where Ba'ath Party loyalists and al-Qaeda terrorists have joined forces to conduct almost constant attacks on US troops,civilian contractors,and civilians attached to the military government.

At least 3 - possibly as many as 8 people-all wearing civilian clothes,were killed in the ambush. A crowd of 150 men:cheering, and chanting Islamic slogans,set the vehicles on fire,mutilated burned bodies,dragged at least 2 bodies through the streets behind a car,and hung 2 of the victims' bodies from a bridge.

One thing that makes this especially notable is that most of this after-ambush activity was photographed by an AP camera team. ( I'll come back to that point later.)

My suspicion-at this time- is that the victims were part of a WMD search team. Witnesses at the scene have indicated 2 of the victims were wearing flak jackets,and may have been armed with rifles. One victim is said to have been carrying a DOD identification card.

Fallujah was the site of one of Saddam Hussein's WMD facilities: FALLUJAH II . A 2002 CIA report indicates precursor chemicals for nerve gas,choking agents,etc. were manufactured here, and there was a plant for the extraction of Ricin from castor oils. It was also believed materials for biowarfare were produced here.

The US has sent WMD teams into this and other areas,but they have come under such intense attack,most of the search activity has been scaled back. Recent news reports indicate the teams have resumed their search; and, since this is a prime area to search for clues,I suspect the victims were doing just that.

There are some very troubling aspects to this morning's attack.

1. While "impromptu" ambushes are not uncommon, the successful ambush of moving vehicles generally requires advance knowledge of anticipated route.

2. The presence of an eager mob at the ambush site also suggests advance knowledge. To get that many people assembled first thing in the morning takes a bit of advance planning.

3. This brings me to the camera crew. The fact they were there at the scene , suggests they had foreknowledge. The fact they were able to film away without being molested suggests they had prior approval from the organizers of the ambush. ( A lot of the media TV crews are local people,working under contract. )

This morning's atrocities seem to have fulfilled many aims:

1. Increasing the "body bag count", so as to dismay American voters,and to persuade them to elect a candidate (such as John Kerry) more to the terrorists' liking.

2. Terrorizing the local population;

3. Creating dismay among civilian employees;

4. Keeping WMD inspectors away from sensitive areas;

5. Getting and maintaining media coverage.

4,694 posted on 03/31/2004 7:23:00 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat; JustPiper
Heavenly Father, we return to give You thanks that greater are You than the god of this world. If it were not so, we would be without hope. But You are Sovereign, and in Your hand is the life of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind. We rest in that, O God, especially in times when we are overpowered by what is happening.

Innocents have again been slaughtered and put on display for the world to see. May the truth of this horror be plainly seen by the eyes of the world ... that the enemy reveres not life, nor is the enemy reverential in death. The souls are but pawns in a quest for power, and as the time grows short when liberty takes hold, the wrath of the enemy increases.

Merciful Father, comfort the families of those who have been lost. Under gird them with the knowledge that the enemy cannot touch the soul, no matter what is done to the outward man. Let no nation shrink from this horror ... counter the enemy's opportunity to lead in cries to withdraw to safety ... to take troops from the battlefield as a means of protection. From the beginning of mankind, You have warned that only destruction gives victory over evil ... that we are not to be seduced into thinking that giving quarter to the enemy takes any of us out of harm's way. You are a Merciful God ... You are Just God ... we know that You will exact vengeance upon the death of the innocents. We long for Your perfect justice to prevail, yet until that day, O God, keep us committed to the battle for freedom and security. Give the greatest wisdom that we would be able to thwart such barbaric attacks upon the people, even while our hearts grieve for those whose blood has been spilled in the cause of freedom. In the Name of Jesus, we pour out our prayers before You, Amen ...

4,695 posted on 03/31/2004 7:33:42 AM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Indie
Not good news to wake up to Indie.

Fox News alert just now: Another bombing in Ubekistan.

Report: Explosion Hits Uzbek Capital

TASHKENT, Uzbekistan - An explosion hit the Uzbek capital Wednesday night, and there were casualties in what may have been a fourth straight day of violence in the Central Asian country, a Russian news agency reported.

Interfax news agency said the blast hit the Sabir-Rakhimovski region of northern Tashkent. Other details were unavailable.

That area is not far from the scene of fighting Tuesday in which 20 militants and three police were killed.

Despite the reported blast, prosecutor-general spokeswoman Svetlana Artikova said there had been no new outbreaks of violence in Tashkent.

4,696 posted on 03/31/2004 7:43:10 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Pegita
Amen.
4,697 posted on 03/31/2004 7:45:15 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: crabbie; Pegita
Thank you so much for volunteering, I will keep in mind where you are located and will freepmail you my contact info. Have added you to the emergency list.

Prayers are being sent your way, you can count on all of us to give you a {{hug}} everyday if you need it. Sounds as though you have beat it once, so I know you must be strong and willing to fight this disease. Just as we fight threats of terrorism here, it takes perseverance and just getting mad at the enemy, whatever it is, sometimes.
4,698 posted on 03/31/2004 7:48:04 AM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: MamaDearest; JustPiper; Calpernia; Cindy; knak; jerseygirl; freeperfromnj; All
Parliament Rules on Airline Passenger Data

By PAUL GEITNER, Associated Press Writer

BRUSSELS, Belgium - The European Parliament on Wednesday said it was illegal for the United States to force European airlines to provide data on arriving passengers and threatened to go to court to block an agreement that calls for the information sharing.

The vote came a day after European Union ministers overcame similar privacy concerns and agreed to give their own law enforcement authorities access to more limited passenger data.

To combat terrorism, Washington has demanded airlines headed for the United States transmit extensive passenger information — from credit card numbers to meal preferences — within 15 minutes of departure. Noncompliance can be punished with fines of up to $6,000 a passenger and the loss of landing rights.

Airlines, caught between having to satisfy U.S. demands and EU privacy law, have been operating under interim arrangements while negotiations were underway. The agreement reached last December is less than Washington initially sought as far as the amount of data that can be collected, who can see it and how long it can be stored.

But the Parliament, meeting in Strasbourg, France, voted 229 to 202 for a nonbinding resolution calling on the European Commission, which negotiated on behalf of the EU, to demand a better deal.

The resolution said there is no legal basis for supplying commercially gathered data for "public security purposes."

"Such access is illegal under member state and EU privacy laws," the resolution said, adding Parliament reserved the right to mount a legal challenge at the European Court of Justice if the agreement is adopted by the full Commission as is.

Commission spokesman Jonathan Todd said only that the Commission would "reflect on its next steps at a forthcoming meeting," adding there was no deadline.

Parliament, however, aims to act before new elections in June, a spokesman said. The last plenary session is May 3-6.

Parliament had to be consulted before the agreement is adopted, but cannot block it on its own.

Dutch Liberal Johanna Boogerd-Quaak, who drafted the resolution, noted that EU national data protection commissioners concluded in January that the present agreement was still inadequate.

"We are not satisfied with the privacy safeguards secured by the Commission, and we now expect them to withdraw their decision and come back with better safeguards," said Boogerd-Quaak.

Commission officials have defended the agreement as striking a balance between privacy concerns and the need to combat terrorism.

The information to be required from airlines landing in Europe is less extensive than that sought by Washington. The EU measure would be limited to name, date of birth, nationality, passport number and flight information.

EU interior and justice ministers rejected moves by France, Sweden and some other EU governments to require the information be wiped from computer records after just 24 hours, allowing countries that want to keep it longer to do so.

British Home Office Minister Caroline Flint called the proposed restrictions incompatible with British law and a pledge last week for greater cooperation in tracking terrorists in the wake of the Madrid train bombings.

Irish Justice Minister Michael McDowell said ministers agreed limiting access to the data to customs or immigration agencies as initially proposed a year ago was no longer sufficient.

"I don't think the people of Europe would forgive us if information which could prevent an atrocity was sitting in files ... and simply not capable of being consulted by people who needed to have access to it to save lives," he said Tuesday night.

4,699 posted on 03/31/2004 7:55:04 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: all4one
Thank you for checking, I think we all have had that happen. A story you hear that just disappears. This one sounded very odd and very possible!! We will have to watch for this happening again.

4,700 posted on 03/31/2004 7:57:57 AM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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