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Whopper of the Week: John Kerry DID JOHN KERRY PRETEND TO BE IRISH
MSN Slate ^ | March 7, 2003 | Timothy Noah

Posted on 03/11/2004 5:13:11 PM PST by AmericanMade1776

Whopper of the Week: John Kerry Did he pretend to be Irish? By Timothy Noah Posted Friday, March 7, 2003, at 3:34 PM PT

"[John] Kerry acknowledged that some voters in Massachusetts, the nation's most Irish-American state, may have had the impression that he had Irish roots. He said that he knew of no Irish ancestry and that he had always tried to correct misstatements whenever he learned about them.

"Numerous publications, including the Globe, have stated that Kerry is Irish-American.

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"'I'm sure some people see the name and say, "Hey, I think it's this or that," but I've been clear as a bell,' Kerry said. 'I've always been absolutely straight up front about it.'

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"Kerry 'has never indicated to anyone that he was Irish and corrected people over the years who assumed he was,' [spokeswoman Kelly] Benander said."

—Michael Kranish, "Search for Kerry's Roots Finds Surprising History," in the Feb. 2 Boston Globe.

''For those of us who are fortunate to share an Irish ancestry, we take great pride in the contributions that Irish-Americans …"

—Senate floor statement by John Kerry, March 18, 1986, as quoted in Frank Phillips' and Brian C. Mooney's "1986 Statement Counters Kerry's Stand on Heritage," in the March 6 Boston Globe.

"As some of you may know, I am part-English and part-Irish. And when my Kerry ancestors first came over to Massachusetts from the old country to find work in the New World, it was my English ancestors who refused to hire them."

—Draft remarks prepared for Kerry in 1984, quoted by Phillips and Mooney in the March 6 Globe. Kerry was lieutenant governor of Massachusetts at the time.

"[I]n 1982, at the state Democratic convention in Springfield, his campaign gave his convention floor workers emerald-green T-shirts and hats featuring the logo, 'Up Kerry'—a takeoff on the rallying cry for the first president of the Republic of Ireland, Eamon de Valera, whose supporters cried, 'Up de Valera!' "

—Phillips and Mooney in the March 6 Globe.

Discussion. The question before the jury is whether Kerry has systematically sought to con Massachusetts voters (a great many of whom are Irish) into thinking that he's Irish. Kerry's spokesperson, Kelley Benander, told the Globe the erroneous Senate floor statement was staff-written and that Kerry neither recited nor saw it. (It's common for members of Congress to submit written floor statements in lieu of going to the Senate floor and saying the words out loud, and these statements are indeed often written by staff members.) Neither Kerry nor Benander nor Jonathan Winer, the Kerry aide who wrote the draft remarks prepared for Kerry when he was lieutenant governor, recall the speech being used. (But they don't seem specifically to recall it not being used, either.) As for the Irish-themed Kerry campaign paraphernalia, Benander said it was meant to attract Irish-American voters, not to con people into thinking Kerry was Irish.

Still, it's striking that the Globe was able to find two separate instances where Kerry's own staff thought he was Irish and a third where Kerry's campaign invited the public to believe he was Irish. (Benander's explanation about the hats and T-shirts fails to persuade because Kerry wasn't visiting an Irish neighborhood. He was at a state convention attended by people with all sorts of backgrounds.) And it is striking that Kerry has never attempted to correct various references to his Irish ancestry that have appeared in the Globe, which is the most important newspaper in his state.

Chatterbox's bottom line is that a political candidate and officeholder is responsible for whatever goes out under his name. So the Senate statement alone qualifies this as a Whopper. As to the larger question of whether Kerry habitually tells opportunistic lies about his background, or anything else, the jury's still out. But you can bet the Globe, and everyone else, will be watching.

[Correction, March 15: Winer, who was not contacted by the Globe for the story, says it misreported (secondhand, via Benander) his recollection about the 1984 draft comments. The Globe said Winer didn't remember Kerry giving the speech. Winer says he does remember that Kerry did not give the speech. "He refused to use it," Winer e-mailed Chatterbox. "Told me it wasn't funny." Chatterbox notes that Winer does not affirm that Kerry further said, "And besides, I'm not Irish," so he presumes that didn't happen.]

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; genealogy; irish; kerry; kerrylies; lurch
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To: AmericanMade1776

41 posted on 04/20/2004 7:35:03 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: AmericanMade1776; cronus

"HANOI JOHN" GETTING HIS WEEKLY BATH...


42 posted on 05/02/2004 12:41:02 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 - THE BEST GET BETTER)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Maybe it's true because the next thing kerry will say is that he related to ted kennedy.
43 posted on 05/02/2004 12:44:17 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
The only thing Kerry has not pretended to be is a rectum.

Fortunately for us, his pretense of trying to appear nonrectumlike isn't convincing.
44 posted on 05/02/2004 1:03:42 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED
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To: AmericanMade1776; PhilDragoo; Ragtime Cowgirl; nuconvert; Indy; SusanTK; McGavin999; AdmSmith; ...

45 posted on 05/09/2004 6:35:17 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - THE BEST GET BETTER)
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46 posted on 05/09/2004 7:29:23 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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47 posted on 05/16/2004 10:56:10 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Smartass
hehe !

48 posted on 05/17/2004 3:10:42 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Not only does Kerry lack credibility, he lacks in the responsibility department as well!

Just recently, as Kerry was making political profit from the Iraqi prisoner Abuse Scandal, Kerry proclaimed that, if he were CinC, he would take responsibility for the actions of those under his command. A noble position and one which is expected of a Commander of troops.

But can we believe this statement?

I contend that we can not. When called to answer for his public speeches regarding the so called Benedict Arnold CEO's, he passes the buck to "overzealous speech writers"! This from the man who claims he follows Harry Truman's rule of the buck stops here.

The hypocrisy of this is further illustrated by that fact that John Kerry is not even responsible for what he says! What he says is dictated by others and is totally beyond his control. Shouldn't a presumptive leader of the free world be the one dictating to his speech writers what he wants to say and not the other way around?

49 posted on 05/17/2004 3:20:52 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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To: Smartass

Funny!!


50 posted on 05/17/2004 7:37:30 PM PDT by potlatch ( Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: SpinyNorman

the only thing they share is their hair style


51 posted on 07/18/2004 6:24:47 PM PDT by blabbergirl300
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To: SpinyNorman

the only thing they share is their hair style


52 posted on 07/18/2004 6:24:53 PM PDT by blabbergirl300
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To: Polybius

He is like the Jewish kapos that were hired by the nazis to watch over prisoners in the concentration camps. They were often as mean as the nazis-he is a nazi


53 posted on 07/18/2004 6:27:32 PM PDT by blabbergirl300
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To: Kenny Bunk

yeah so i have a question if he never claimed to be Irish then how come some remarks made by him for political reasons said just that like when he talk about Irsh people and said "us"


54 posted on 07/18/2004 6:30:46 PM PDT by blabbergirl300
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To: blabbergirl300
Shore and begorrah, now, lass! Why will ye no be takin' his loquacious legerdemain as proof he is as Irish as they come? Why me Colleen, this man did not kiss the Blarney Stone, he inhaled it, or at least one of his writers did.

And does the man not bear a striking resemblance in a butch sort of way, to Nancy Kerrigan, the kneecapped figure-skater? Instead of worrying about this bloody spalpeen's problematic ancestry, we should be worrying about what appears to be a somewhat serious attempt to win the presidency.

And if you are unliucky enough to inhabit Massa chusetts, you should also be worried about Barney the Bugger of Bayonne succeeding Ketchup Boy as your Senator.

55 posted on 07/19/2004 5:42:43 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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