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Whopper of the Week: John Kerry DID JOHN KERRY PRETEND TO BE IRISH
MSN Slate ^ | March 7, 2003 | Timothy Noah

Posted on 03/11/2004 5:13:11 PM PST by AmericanMade1776

Whopper of the Week: John Kerry Did he pretend to be Irish? By Timothy Noah Posted Friday, March 7, 2003, at 3:34 PM PT

"[John] Kerry acknowledged that some voters in Massachusetts, the nation's most Irish-American state, may have had the impression that he had Irish roots. He said that he knew of no Irish ancestry and that he had always tried to correct misstatements whenever he learned about them.

"Numerous publications, including the Globe, have stated that Kerry is Irish-American.

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"'I'm sure some people see the name and say, "Hey, I think it's this or that," but I've been clear as a bell,' Kerry said. 'I've always been absolutely straight up front about it.'

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"Kerry 'has never indicated to anyone that he was Irish and corrected people over the years who assumed he was,' [spokeswoman Kelly] Benander said."

—Michael Kranish, "Search for Kerry's Roots Finds Surprising History," in the Feb. 2 Boston Globe.

''For those of us who are fortunate to share an Irish ancestry, we take great pride in the contributions that Irish-Americans …"

—Senate floor statement by John Kerry, March 18, 1986, as quoted in Frank Phillips' and Brian C. Mooney's "1986 Statement Counters Kerry's Stand on Heritage," in the March 6 Boston Globe.

"As some of you may know, I am part-English and part-Irish. And when my Kerry ancestors first came over to Massachusetts from the old country to find work in the New World, it was my English ancestors who refused to hire them."

—Draft remarks prepared for Kerry in 1984, quoted by Phillips and Mooney in the March 6 Globe. Kerry was lieutenant governor of Massachusetts at the time.

"[I]n 1982, at the state Democratic convention in Springfield, his campaign gave his convention floor workers emerald-green T-shirts and hats featuring the logo, 'Up Kerry'—a takeoff on the rallying cry for the first president of the Republic of Ireland, Eamon de Valera, whose supporters cried, 'Up de Valera!' "

—Phillips and Mooney in the March 6 Globe.

Discussion. The question before the jury is whether Kerry has systematically sought to con Massachusetts voters (a great many of whom are Irish) into thinking that he's Irish. Kerry's spokesperson, Kelley Benander, told the Globe the erroneous Senate floor statement was staff-written and that Kerry neither recited nor saw it. (It's common for members of Congress to submit written floor statements in lieu of going to the Senate floor and saying the words out loud, and these statements are indeed often written by staff members.) Neither Kerry nor Benander nor Jonathan Winer, the Kerry aide who wrote the draft remarks prepared for Kerry when he was lieutenant governor, recall the speech being used. (But they don't seem specifically to recall it not being used, either.) As for the Irish-themed Kerry campaign paraphernalia, Benander said it was meant to attract Irish-American voters, not to con people into thinking Kerry was Irish.

Still, it's striking that the Globe was able to find two separate instances where Kerry's own staff thought he was Irish and a third where Kerry's campaign invited the public to believe he was Irish. (Benander's explanation about the hats and T-shirts fails to persuade because Kerry wasn't visiting an Irish neighborhood. He was at a state convention attended by people with all sorts of backgrounds.) And it is striking that Kerry has never attempted to correct various references to his Irish ancestry that have appeared in the Globe, which is the most important newspaper in his state.

Chatterbox's bottom line is that a political candidate and officeholder is responsible for whatever goes out under his name. So the Senate statement alone qualifies this as a Whopper. As to the larger question of whether Kerry habitually tells opportunistic lies about his background, or anything else, the jury's still out. But you can bet the Globe, and everyone else, will be watching.

[Correction, March 15: Winer, who was not contacted by the Globe for the story, says it misreported (secondhand, via Benander) his recollection about the 1984 draft comments. The Globe said Winer didn't remember Kerry giving the speech. Winer says he does remember that Kerry did not give the speech. "He refused to use it," Winer e-mailed Chatterbox. "Told me it wasn't funny." Chatterbox notes that Winer does not affirm that Kerry further said, "And besides, I'm not Irish," so he presumes that didn't happen.]

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; genealogy; irish; kerry; kerrylies; lurch
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Just seemed appropriate to revisit this misrepresentation by John Kerry So close to Saint Patrick's Day.
1 posted on 03/11/2004 5:13:11 PM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776
In Boston,the joke is John Kerry is Irish only every sixth year.
2 posted on 03/11/2004 5:17:07 PM PST by Redcoat LI ( "help to drive the left one into the insanity.")
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To: AmericanMade1776
Having grown up in Massachusetts I think I can personally say:

What a jackoff-hack-Taxachewzits-politician he is.

.........and theres even MORE there just like HIM.

3 posted on 03/11/2004 5:19:00 PM PST by DoctorMichael (What the %$#&!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
featuring the logo, 'Up Kerry'

You know, that's got a certain appeal to it...

4 posted on 03/11/2004 5:19:07 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
And this from SLATE!!!
Color ME surprised...
5 posted on 03/11/2004 5:20:38 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: All
This is old news in the Baystate.

Kerry the Chameleon - think Geico lizard but much homelier.

6 posted on 03/11/2004 5:23:37 PM PST by BikePacker
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To: AmericanMade1776
Some people think there was a Saddam-al Qaeda connection. I am one of them.

Some people think there is a Kerry-Ireland connection. I am NOT one of them.

7 posted on 03/11/2004 5:25:27 PM PST by OESY
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To: Izzy Dunne
Please note date on article from Slate, it is one year old.
8 posted on 03/11/2004 5:29:26 PM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: Izzy Dunne
I don't know why any of you dratted right-wingers would take this line of attack against Kerry! He never pretended to be Irish. The Shamrocks, the Green Derby, the proctological motto: all an attempt at good clean fun and showing this outstanding Catholic boyo's solidarity with those whose roots run deep under the Old Sod.

Just because he wore a Leprechaun Suit and was heard to hum Danny Boy constantly was certainly no reason for any Massachusetts Irishman to leap to foolish conclusions.

And speaking of "The Old Sod," don't let me hear any of you right-wing conspirator-bastards refer to Barney Frank by that scurrilous nickname. Barney never claimed to be Irish either! And you can thank St. Patrick for that!

Kerry is so proud of his Austro-Hungarian Jewish Roots that he actually trumpets this part of his mixed heritage to the skies. Sorta like Madeleine Albright.

9 posted on 03/11/2004 5:35:52 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: AmericanMade1776
As for the Irish-themed Kerry campaign paraphernalia, Benander said it was meant to attract Irish-American voters, not to con people into thinking Kerry was Irish

C'mon. That's crap. The only Irish campaign paraphernalia I've EVER seen was by candidates who are of Irish Catholic ancestry(I've never seen the Orange play it up).

If my name was Kohn, I wouldn't be using Irish-centered campaign lit. Kerry had the political advantage of having an Irish last name and certainly did not want to give that up.

That said, I'm glad he is NOT Irish since one of my ancestors is a "Carey".

10 posted on 03/11/2004 5:39:36 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (""....but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America"")
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To: AmericanMade1776
This man has completely rendered my ability to be shocked and surprised null and void. I have never in my not so puritanical life been more repulsed by a person (who isn't incarcerated for some sick crime) than this revolving dork.In my life I have encountered everything from the lowest bed wetting drunk to the most larcenous crackhead, and even they have a point that they will not cross. I loathe him. As bad as Clinton was, I think he would have made a helluva used car salesman and a hoot to have a beer with.( No offense to legitimate used car salesmen!). But Kerry is a soulless,unrepentant parasite of the lowest order. God have mercy on us if he is elected.
11 posted on 03/11/2004 5:43:33 PM PST by zygoat
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To: AmericanMade1776
"As some of you may know, I am part-English and part-Irish. And when my Kerry ancestors first came over to Massachusetts from the old country to find work in the New World, it was my English ancestors who refused to hire them."

His Kerry ancestors came over on the Koenigin Luise, out of Genoa, in 1906.

They travelled first class.

When they first came over they settled in Chicago, and they had wealthy friends.

12 posted on 03/11/2004 5:44:52 PM PST by syriacus (1/16/04 Kerry smeared Pickering by calling him a tireless advocate for a cross burner)
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To: Dan from Michigan
" C'mon. That's crap "

Kerry wants us to believe that for 60 years,not once, not one time, did his family ever discuss their heritage-not once. Kerry wants us to believe that he was as shocked as everyone else, to discover that at age 60, he wasn't Irish, but, an Austrian Jew.

If Kerry had been adopted, this might be plausible. Kerry's grandparents must have spoken with some kind of accent and apparently, Kerry cannot tell the difference between an Irish brogue and an Eastern European accent, with Yiddish overtones. John Kerry is either a blithering idiot or a con man of the highest order.
13 posted on 03/11/2004 5:51:59 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: zygoat
Kerry is a soulless, unrepentant parasite. . . .

Parisite, huh? I knew he looked French!

14 posted on 03/11/2004 5:58:22 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Kerry is like that or so a crack sausage.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Kerry to first rich wife Julia and second rich wife Teresa:

"Give me back me gold! I want me gold!"

By George, he is Irish!
15 posted on 03/11/2004 6:29:03 PM PST by Mentos
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To: zygoat
Wow!!!! What you said! This is the best comment I've seen yet about this piece of human scum. I am fervently praying that he will get the Democratic nomination, and immediately begin to implode, to go down in the biggest Republican landslide ever seen.
16 posted on 03/11/2004 6:36:24 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: AmericanMade1776
This week he's pretending to be black.

So far he's been Irish, Jewish, Austrian, and now African.

His constituents love him just the way he is.....schizophrenic!

17 posted on 03/11/2004 6:54:27 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Pretending to be Irish was the only way to get tight with the Bulger and Kennedy crime families in Boston.

Besides, it was probably an important part of his "I am the reincarnation of JFK (the real one) delusion."

18 posted on 03/11/2004 6:57:02 PM PST by SpinyNorman
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To: Dan from Michigan
One of your distant relatives. Aren't you happy?
19 posted on 03/11/2004 6:57:49 PM PST by cyborg (In die begin het God die hemel en die aarde geskape.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
I see Kerry as more ire-ish than Irish.
20 posted on 03/11/2004 6:59:02 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Buffoons with no class, never apologize for being an ass..)
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