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Whopper of the Week: John Kerry DID JOHN KERRY PRETEND TO BE IRISH
MSN Slate ^ | March 7, 2003 | Timothy Noah

Posted on 03/11/2004 5:13:11 PM PST by AmericanMade1776

Whopper of the Week: John Kerry Did he pretend to be Irish? By Timothy Noah Posted Friday, March 7, 2003, at 3:34 PM PT

"[John] Kerry acknowledged that some voters in Massachusetts, the nation's most Irish-American state, may have had the impression that he had Irish roots. He said that he knew of no Irish ancestry and that he had always tried to correct misstatements whenever he learned about them.

"Numerous publications, including the Globe, have stated that Kerry is Irish-American.

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"'I'm sure some people see the name and say, "Hey, I think it's this or that," but I've been clear as a bell,' Kerry said. 'I've always been absolutely straight up front about it.'

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"Kerry 'has never indicated to anyone that he was Irish and corrected people over the years who assumed he was,' [spokeswoman Kelly] Benander said."

—Michael Kranish, "Search for Kerry's Roots Finds Surprising History," in the Feb. 2 Boston Globe.

''For those of us who are fortunate to share an Irish ancestry, we take great pride in the contributions that Irish-Americans …"

—Senate floor statement by John Kerry, March 18, 1986, as quoted in Frank Phillips' and Brian C. Mooney's "1986 Statement Counters Kerry's Stand on Heritage," in the March 6 Boston Globe.

"As some of you may know, I am part-English and part-Irish. And when my Kerry ancestors first came over to Massachusetts from the old country to find work in the New World, it was my English ancestors who refused to hire them."

—Draft remarks prepared for Kerry in 1984, quoted by Phillips and Mooney in the March 6 Globe. Kerry was lieutenant governor of Massachusetts at the time.

"[I]n 1982, at the state Democratic convention in Springfield, his campaign gave his convention floor workers emerald-green T-shirts and hats featuring the logo, 'Up Kerry'—a takeoff on the rallying cry for the first president of the Republic of Ireland, Eamon de Valera, whose supporters cried, 'Up de Valera!' "

—Phillips and Mooney in the March 6 Globe.

Discussion. The question before the jury is whether Kerry has systematically sought to con Massachusetts voters (a great many of whom are Irish) into thinking that he's Irish. Kerry's spokesperson, Kelley Benander, told the Globe the erroneous Senate floor statement was staff-written and that Kerry neither recited nor saw it. (It's common for members of Congress to submit written floor statements in lieu of going to the Senate floor and saying the words out loud, and these statements are indeed often written by staff members.) Neither Kerry nor Benander nor Jonathan Winer, the Kerry aide who wrote the draft remarks prepared for Kerry when he was lieutenant governor, recall the speech being used. (But they don't seem specifically to recall it not being used, either.) As for the Irish-themed Kerry campaign paraphernalia, Benander said it was meant to attract Irish-American voters, not to con people into thinking Kerry was Irish.

Still, it's striking that the Globe was able to find two separate instances where Kerry's own staff thought he was Irish and a third where Kerry's campaign invited the public to believe he was Irish. (Benander's explanation about the hats and T-shirts fails to persuade because Kerry wasn't visiting an Irish neighborhood. He was at a state convention attended by people with all sorts of backgrounds.) And it is striking that Kerry has never attempted to correct various references to his Irish ancestry that have appeared in the Globe, which is the most important newspaper in his state.

Chatterbox's bottom line is that a political candidate and officeholder is responsible for whatever goes out under his name. So the Senate statement alone qualifies this as a Whopper. As to the larger question of whether Kerry habitually tells opportunistic lies about his background, or anything else, the jury's still out. But you can bet the Globe, and everyone else, will be watching.

[Correction, March 15: Winer, who was not contacted by the Globe for the story, says it misreported (secondhand, via Benander) his recollection about the 1984 draft comments. The Globe said Winer didn't remember Kerry giving the speech. Winer says he does remember that Kerry did not give the speech. "He refused to use it," Winer e-mailed Chatterbox. "Told me it wasn't funny." Chatterbox notes that Winer does not affirm that Kerry further said, "And besides, I'm not Irish," so he presumes that didn't happen.]

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; genealogy; irish; kerry; kerrylies; lurch
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Or maybe Iraqish. With a beard he could pass among any middle Eastern terrorist group without raising any suspicion at all.
21 posted on 03/11/2004 7:03:22 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Buffoons with no class, never apologize for being an ass..)
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To: Mentos
LOL LOL LOL
22 posted on 03/11/2004 7:04:46 PM PST by highpockets
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To: AmericanMade1776
And when my Kerry ancestors first came over to Massachusetts from the old country to find work in the New World, it was my English ancestors who refused to hire them."

Kerry's Jewish grandfather was born as Fritz Kohn and later changed his name to Frederick Kerry.

John F. Kerry's shameful attempt to deny and hide his Jewish roots is insulting and anti-Semitic.

What?.........Can't we play that game too?

23 posted on 03/11/2004 7:14:04 PM PST by Polybius
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Let up on Ketchup-Boy now, willya?

You know what we used to say in the Boy Scouts, "Never criticize another brave until you have walked a mile in his mocassins."

for your penance Francis Joseph, you are to walk a mile to a Boston political rally and sing all of the verses of "Was Your Mother Born in Czechoslovakia."

After just one try, you will easily see why the ardently pacifistic francophone war criminal, John "57 Varieties" Kerry may have tended to ethnically obfuscate. Ethics of course, is another matter.

The reason I love John Kerry, is that he is just like my hero, Ted Kennedy, but without the dead girl in the car. Of course, if you would only let the scales drop from your eyes, you would easily see that this qualifies him as President.

24 posted on 03/11/2004 7:14:19 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: AmericanMade1776
He tells people in Boston that he's Irish.

He tells the NAACP that he will be the second Black president.

I can't wait until Kerry speaks before the gay convention.

25 posted on 03/11/2004 7:16:51 PM PST by bayourod ( Kerry's 1st wife: $250M; 2nd wife: $700M; Mistress: priceless.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Could not seperate the kerry leprechaun from the rest of the others.....but there it is
27 posted on 03/11/2004 7:27:41 PM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: Polybius
" Kerry's Jewish grandfather was born as Fritz Kohn "

So, does that make Kerry a Leprekohn ?

BTW- I agree with you about " John F. Kerry's shameful attempt to deny and hide his Jewish roots is insulting and anti-Semitic. "
28 posted on 03/11/2004 8:06:57 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
BTW- I agree with you about " John F. Kerry's shameful attempt to deny and hide his Jewish roots is insulting and anti-Semitic. "

He only hides them in Boston. In Brooklyn, he is vying to be the first HAsidim to be President, in Mississippi, the secong black President and in San Francisco, the first metrosexual President.

Kerry is all things to all people and has every issue surrounded.

Unfortunately he suffers from the same affliction as Al Gore, overload of hubris, underload of personality.

Such is life.

29 posted on 03/11/2004 8:13:13 PM PST by jwalsh07 (We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Kerry was Irish when he needed Irish votes to get into the Senate. When he decide to go for the presidency, he "suddenly" found his Jewish roots. The joke is Kerry got tonsured for Irish votes, and was circumsized for Jewish votes. Now he needs the gay, transgender, metrosexual vote.

They're gonna send out announcements after the election.

30 posted on 03/12/2004 10:22:47 AM PST by Liz
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To: Wild Irish Rogue; Polybius
Kerry's grandfather was born as "Fritz Kohn"

Lissen up as I am not going over this again,
The Name was

FITZ CONAN

Ya got that?

31 posted on 03/12/2004 10:50:25 AM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: AmericanMade1776

32 posted on 03/12/2004 10:52:00 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
That said, I'm glad he is NOT Irish since one of my ancestors is a "Carey".

Not the best genes you've got there, is it?

33 posted on 03/12/2004 10:54:39 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: AmericanMade1776
I should have scrolled down to see that you already posted it! Ooops.
34 posted on 03/12/2004 10:55:04 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: zygoat
So ya wanna know some dirt about Ketchup Boy?

When he was running against Weld, a story was written about the wonderful and funny reception Trick-or-Treaters got at Weld's house
as opposed to the shabby treatment dished out chez Heinz- Kerry.

This phony SOB! $500 Million in Condiment Money and this Irishman can't even get Halloween right?

35 posted on 03/12/2004 10:55:53 AM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Kerry did not know his grandparents. His grandfather committed soooeycide in a hotel restroom. Blew his brains out. In the old Joe Kennedy neighborhood. Boston.com has a really long series on Kerry's past, including his family history.
36 posted on 03/12/2004 10:57:43 AM PST by petitfour
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To: bayourod
Kerry.....Isn't that a girls name?
37 posted on 03/12/2004 10:59:38 AM PST by Khuey
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To: petitfour

"Kerry did not know his grandparents"

Kerry can't get even this simple story straight.

According to the BBC on line, " Profile : John Kerry, " by Paul Reynolds, 02/25/04

" John Kerry says he remembers his grandmother as a practising Catholic. Although born Jewish, she had later converted."

His paternal grandmother, Ida Lowe Kerry died in 1960, when Kerry was 17. She came to America, at age 28, with her husband and firstborn son,( age unknown by me ) Kerry's uncle. My maternal grandmother died when I was 10 and I can still remember her lilting Irish voice.
So, I don't buy for one minute, that Kerry didn't realize that his grandmother and uncle were not Irish and that he couldn't recognize an Austrian accent. If one believes Kerry, than he must think Arnold Schwarzenegger is from County Mayo.
Your comment about the grandfather committing suicide reminds me-Kerry has a history suggesting depression and post traumatic stress disorder.
Might be a hereditary condition, but, since Kerry refuses to release his medical records, we can only speculate.
38 posted on 03/12/2004 11:58:41 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: AmericanMade1776
John F(raud) Kerry Kohn Job.
39 posted on 03/12/2004 12:12:10 PM PST by auboy
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To: Redcoat LI
"...In Boston,the joke is John Kerry is Irish only every sixth year..."

In the rest of the country, John Fing Kerry IS THE JOKE!!!!!
40 posted on 03/29/2004 5:46:25 PM PST by NCC-1701 (Support Mel Gibson and "The Passion of the Christ")
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