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Assault Weapon Ban extension PASSES (Senate amendment to gun industry protection bill)
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| 3-2-04
| Sen. Dianne Feinstein D-CA
Posted on 03/02/2004 9:05:08 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
The vote was:
52 -Aye in favor of extending the ban 47 -Nay opposed to the ban.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: awb; bang; banglist
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To: Ohioan
Unfortunately, Rove is far less likely to deliver what you hope for, than the Witch Doctor. Boy, did this conversation get turned around in a hurry.
Since when did the conversation become about my expectations about Karl Rove?
I'm not the one who uses him to frighten moderates into conservative.
761
posted on
03/03/2004 11:09:19 AM PST
by
carton253
(I don't do nuance)
To: Redleg Duke
762
posted on
03/03/2004 11:35:27 AM PST
by
archy
(Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
To: aomagrat
The Liability bill will pass with all amendments intact. The conference committee leaves them in, Bush signs.
Then activists judges will declare the liability part unconstitutional, leaving all gun control parts intact.
That's been considered and has been planned for. And if it does, the judges will not like what happens next one little bit. Read your constitution.
-archy-/-
763
posted on
03/03/2004 11:37:44 AM PST
by
archy
(Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
To: BJClinton
The SKS I no longer have had a pistol grip, folding stock and muzzle brake. Never managed to re-install the folding bayonet.
Fortunately it was pre-ban.
Did have two 30 round mags for it, but who wants 'em? Like the 10 round with stripper clips better.
It was as much fun as an the M1 carbine I bought my Dad!
764
posted on
03/03/2004 11:39:49 AM PST
by
Little Ray
(Why settle for a Lesser Evil? Vote Cthuhlu for President!)
To: Dogbert41
I have a mossberg loaded all the time, but find it painful to shoot alot when practicing, particularly the combat shells you want to use for defense - both double ought and slugs. Painful! I sympathize with you, particularly since my favored daytime buckshot load in my 870s is the 20-pellet #1 2 3/4-inch magnum loading. But for use at nighttime when less muzzle flash is advisable, or in my older Winchester M97s, or if a pistol grip or folding stock is used, I slip in the Federal 9-pellet tactical 00 buck reduced power load or the Remington 8-pellet equivalent, with excellent results. There are also reduced power *tactical* slug loads, popular with police departments whose female and minority officers otherwise cannot qualify with their shotguns due to recoil sensitivity. Some possibilities available *here*.
765
posted on
03/03/2004 11:52:59 AM PST
by
archy
(Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
To: Dogbert41
I have a mossberg loaded all the time, but find it painful to shoot alot when practicing, particularly the combat shells you want to use for defense - both double ought and slugs. Painful! I sympathize with you, particularly since my favored daytime buckshot load in my 870s is the 20-pellet #1 2 3/4-inch magnum loading. But for use at nighttime when less muzzle flash is advisable, or in my older Winchester M97s, or if a pistol grip or folding stock is used, I slip in the Federal 9-pellet tactical 00 buck reduced power load or the Remington 8-pellet equivalent, with excellent results. There are also reduced power *tactical* slug loads, popular with police departments whose female and minority officers otherwise cannot qualify with their shotguns due to recoil sensitivity. Some possibilities available *here*.
766
posted on
03/03/2004 11:53:04 AM PST
by
archy
(Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
To: Little Ray
Like the 10 round with stripper clips better.
No kidding. If I really want a 7.62x39 with detachable mags I'll get an AK. The stripper clips are lighter and faster. BTW, the Chinese manfactered the "Red Star" fixed magazine that holds 20 rounds and is easily loaded with two strips. I'm not sure how much they cost these days or whether or nor they'll fit all SKSs.
767
posted on
03/03/2004 12:12:21 PM PST
by
BJClinton
(Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, I'm a registered Dem.)
To: Henrietta
I think I just did Henrietta, but you are too pompus and myoptic to realize it.
Keep on deluding yourself, but I would never stoop to accusing your Mother of instilling it in you. You show a remarkable tin ear...are you sure you aren't actually Hitlery Clinton herself, now?
768
posted on
03/03/2004 1:54:32 PM PST
by
Redleg Duke
(Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
To: Redleg Duke
Blaming a politician who alienates voters by his own bad policies is neither pompous or myopic.
Blaming the voters for the non-re-election of an incumbent who forwards bad policies is a bit like a crook who blames the cops when he's caught red-handed, instead of taking responsibility for having done the crime in the first place.
If Bush continues to "do the crime" by furthering policies with which voters disagree, the resulting loss of votes is hardly the voters' fault, and entirely his.
I won't even ask you to explain why this is "delusional," as it appears you are one of those trolls who appear on FR to attack those with whom they disagree, but who can't manage to string two coherent sentences together.
To: Squantos
Believe it or not you speak for a very small minority of whacked out extremists. Your vote means nothing! Bye!
770
posted on
03/03/2004 2:05:08 PM PST
by
TheGunny
(u)
To: Cboldt
The Senate did not eventually approve extension of the AWB. It was discussed, it was added to another bill, and the bill the extension was added to went DOWN, 90-8. You may know that, but I promise you, many folks picking this thread up at this point will not have read the few posts that clearly recited that vitally important fact.
You know that and I know that. But those who attempted to run this down our throats and the RINOs who voted with them do NOT see this as a defeat, only a very temporary setback.
And note that THEY'RE REPORTING THIS AS A VICTORY FOR THEIR SIDE...
In all, 10 states with a combined population of 94 million one-third of the U.S. total awarded 1,151 delegates, more than half of the 2,162 needed to seize the nomination. In addition to New York, California, Vermont and Edwards' three target states, voters cast ballots in four Kerry strongholds: Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts and Rhode Island. Kerry, a 60-year-old senator, had 701 delegates to Edwards' 205, even before Tuesday's voting.
A 10-state sweep could give Kerry about 1,500 delegates a virtually insurmountable lead. Even with a couple of victories and a better-than-expected showing in several other states, Edwards had to win at least 70 percent of the pledged delegates between now and June and secure the support of uncommitted party leaders to overtake Kerry in the delegate chase.
The lawmakers took a Super Tuesday time-out in the Senate to vote on extending the ban on military-style assault weapons. The extension passed, and they returned to campaign work after chit-chatting on the Senate floor.
771
posted on
03/03/2004 2:52:43 PM PST
by
archy
(Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
To: TheGunny
Believe it or not you speak for a very small minority of whacked out extremists. Your vote means nothing! Bye! Just the ones Bush needed to win this last close squeaker election.
And who cost Bush's daddy his second term in office as well.
-archy-/-
772
posted on
03/03/2004 2:54:37 PM PST
by
archy
(Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
To: archy
Mark my words arch! You and the like can grumble and take your toys and go home. GW will win in a landslide, again, mark my words....with you or with out you.
773
posted on
03/03/2004 3:03:10 PM PST
by
TheGunny
(u)
To: TheGunny
Mark my words arch! You and the like can grumble and take your toys and go home. GW will win in a landslide, again, mark my words....with you or with out you. Yep, just what Daddy Bush thought in 1992. Before the results came in, and he was out of a job.
774
posted on
03/03/2004 3:50:17 PM PST
by
archy
(Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
To: TheGunny
Believe it or not you speak for a very small minority of whacked out extremists. Your vote means nothing! Bye! Those votes meant a lot in 1994, when they were instrumental in the Republicans retaking the House. See post #541.
If the President wants to p*** those votes away now, he's not thinking straight.
Ironically, his father's ill-conceived ban on the importation of "assault weapons" was one of the factors that led to *his* defeat in 1992. I hope history does not repeat itself, but it often does.
To: TheGunny
Chill BB stacker.....it aint as bad as ya let on . Sadly I know nothing of you but keep talkin....your confirming my first impression.
Stay safe and thanks for taking your turn in the barrel !
776
posted on
03/03/2004 9:50:16 PM PST
by
Squantos
(Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
To: archy
Right. Ross the Boss had nothing to do with it, it was all you "gotta have my Barrett 50 cal" types who thwarted a good mans re election. OK
777
posted on
03/04/2004 7:03:14 AM PST
by
TheGunny
(u)
To: Squantos
what would you like to know, perhaps I can fill in the blanks. Semper!
778
posted on
03/04/2004 7:04:52 AM PST
by
TheGunny
(u)
To: TheGunny
Right. Ross the Boss had nothing to do with it, it was all you "gotta have my Barrett 50 cal" types who thwarted a good mans re election. OK You have to do better than half right. True enough that Perot took about one vote in five of those cast in that election. And at the same time, voters usually far more sympathetic to the Republican cause than otherwise stayed home by the thousands.
I voter who doesn't show up at the polls is effectively one vote against the candidate desperate for support. A vote cast for his opponent is as good as two.
779
posted on
03/04/2004 9:19:58 AM PST
by
archy
(Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
To: Henrietta
Yada...yada...yada!
Bye...bye...Henrietta...I think your broomstick is double-parked!
780
posted on
03/04/2004 10:45:28 AM PST
by
Redleg Duke
(Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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