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Amendments to Gun Mfrs Liability Protection Act (Expanded AP Bullet Amendment is a Killer)
Thomas.gov ^ | 2/27/04 | Self

Posted on 02/27/2004 6:13:36 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants

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Amendments For S.1805

1. S.AMDT.2617 to S.1805 To extend and expand the Temporary Extended Unemployment Compensation Act of 2002, and for other purposes.


Sponsor: Sen Cantwell, Maria [WA] (introduced 2/25/2004)      Cosponsors: 14
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Amendment SA 2617 ruled out of order by the chair.


2. S.AMDT.2618 to S.1805 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.


Sponsor: Sen Campbell, Ben Nighthorse [CO] (introduced 2/25/2004)      Cosponsors: 1
Latest Major Action: 2/25/2004 Senate amendment submitted


3. S.AMDT.2619 to S.1805 To expand the definition of armor piercing ammunition and to require the Attorney General to promulgate standards for the uniform testing of projectiles against body armor.


Sponsor: Sen Kennedy, Edward M. [MA] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: (none)
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment proposed (on the floor)


4. S.AMDT.2620 to S.1805 To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to require the provision of a child safety device in connection with the transfer of a handgun and to provide safety standards for child safety devices.


Sponsor: Sen Boxer, Barbara [CA] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: (none)
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2620 agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 70 - 27. Record Vote Number: 17.


5. S.AMDT.2621 to S.1805 To clarify the definition of qualified civil liability action, and for other purposes.


Sponsor: Sen Daschle, Thomas A. [SD] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 2
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2621 agreed to in Senate by Voice Vote.


6. S.AMDT.2622 to S.1805 To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to require the provision of a child safety lock in connection with the transfer of a handgun.


Sponsor: Sen Kohl, Herb [WI] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: (none)
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2622 agreed to in Senate by Voice Vote.


7. S.AMDT.2623 to S.1805 To amend title 18, United States Code, to exempt qualified current and former law enforcement officers from State laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed handguns.


Sponsor: Sen Campbell, Ben Nighthorse [CO] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 7
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment proposed (on the floor)


8. S.AMDT.2624 to S.1805 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.


Sponsor: Sen Warner, John W. [VA] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: (none)
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment submitted


9. S.AMDT.2625 to S.1805 To regulate the sale and possession of armor piercing ammunition, and for other purposes.


Sponsor: Sen Frist, Bill [TN] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 1
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment proposed (on the floor)


10. S.AMDT.2626 to S.1805 To make the provisions of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 permanent.


Sponsor: Sen Frist, Bill [TN] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 1
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Proposed amendment SA 2626 withdrawn in Senate.


11. S.AMDT.2627 S.1805 To exempt lawsuits involving a shooting victim of John Allen Muhammad or Lee Boyd Malvo from the definition of qualified civil liability action.


Sponsor: Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. [MD] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 4
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment not agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2627 not agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 40 - 56. Record Vote Number: 20.


12. S.AMDT.2628 to S.1805 To exempt any lawsuit involving a shooting victim of John Allen Muhammad or John Lee Malvo from the definition of qualified civil liability action that meets certain requirements.


Sponsor: Sen Frist, Bill [TN] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 1
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2628 agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 59 - 37. Record Vote Number: 19.


13. S.AMDT.2629 to S.1805 To protect the rights of law enforcement officers who are victimized by crime to secure compensation from those who participate in the arming of criminals.


Sponsor: Sen Corzine, Jon [NJ] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 5
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment not agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2629 not agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 38 - 56. Record Vote Number: 22.


14. S.AMDT.2630 to S.1805 To protect the rights of law enforcement officers who are victimized by crime to secure compensation from those who participate in the arming of criminals.


Sponsor: Sen Frist, Bill [TN] (introduced 2/26/2004)      Cosponsors: 1
Latest Major Action: 2/26/2004 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2630 agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 60 - 34. Record Vote Number: 21.




TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amendment; antigunners; assault; bang; banglist; guns; second; weapons
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To: Sofa King
Huh?
41 posted on 02/27/2004 8:53:08 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
You can't rely on whether or not someone you like or dislike supports something to tell whether or not it is a good idea.
42 posted on 02/27/2004 8:57:06 AM PST by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/index.html)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
There is no requirement in the law to do anyting at all with the results of the study.

That always stops those bureaucrats in their tracks. /sarcasm Ever hear the phrase "stroke of the pen law of the land?"

43 posted on 02/27/2004 9:04:22 AM PST by TigersEye (Carrying a gun is a social obligation.)
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To: Sofa King
True, but can you REALLY believe the senators who voted against that amendment would support anything remotely pro-2A?
44 posted on 02/27/2004 9:08:56 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: cc2k; Blood of Tyrants
This amendment worries me the most of what has passed so far. Any victim of a crime, or any family of a crime victim, could make a 14th amendment claim that they are "similarly situated" to the victims of Muhammad and Malvo, and could probably convince a judge to allow a similar lawsuit. That could gut the entire law and leave manufacturers and dealers with little or no protection from this law.

Precisely. What this amendment says, essentially, is that while it's not OK to sue firearm manufacturers, it is OK to sue Bushmaster, et. al. in this case. How long before other cases are exempted from this law? Colombine, the Ohio sniper, etc. etc.

45 posted on 02/27/2004 9:10:58 AM PST by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The words "that meets certain requirements" at the end basically neuter the amendment. If you don't believe me, look how they voted on both amendments.

Oh, I know exactly what went on. He took the McCullski amendment and changed it around. The big question is, what are those 'certain requirements'. Do you know or are you simply guessing?

46 posted on 02/27/2004 9:15:12 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (John Kerry is the Democrat's Bob Dole)
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To: ClintonBeGone
I wish I did. SA 1701 isn't up on the Thomas.gov website yet.
47 posted on 02/27/2004 9:23:56 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: ClintonBeGone
P.S. From the vote, the anti-gun Rats aren't happy about it, though.
48 posted on 02/27/2004 9:24:37 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: wysiwyg
wysiwyg wrote:
What this amendment says, essentially, is that while it's not OK to sue firearm manufacturers, it is OK to sue Bushmaster, et. al. in this case.
OK, now I've read the two amendments. I wish I could figure out how to post a good link into the congressional record pages at http://thomas.loc.gov, but all the URL's I get are temporary ones that die in a short time.

Basically, in S.1805, there are 5 kinds of actions allowed against gun manufactures and dealers. Things like criminal activity by the manufacturer or dealer, injuries from truly defective products and stuff like that.

Mikulski's amendment proposed to add this to the list of actions that would still be allowed:


``(vi) an action involving a shooting victim of John Allen Muhammad or Lee Boyd Malvo.''.
While that seems to be "compassionate," the 14th amendment would mean that almost any victim of almost any crime could make a claim to be "similarly situated" and use that exemption to press a case against a gun manufacturer or dealer.

The Frist amendment that was offered as an alternative, and passed, added this instead:


(vi) an action involving a shooting victim of John Allen Muhammad or John Lee Malvo that meets 1 of the requirements under clauses (i) through (v).
So, victims of Muhammad and Malvo still have to meet the requirements of this law in order to press their case against Bushmaster or the gun dealer in Washington state.
49 posted on 02/27/2004 9:51:31 AM PST by cc2k
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To: Joe Brower
The Second Amendment...
America's Original Homeland Security!

We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists and the democrats are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

50 posted on 02/27/2004 10:00:06 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
No, that is an amendment to ban armor pierce with a question of whether the AG wants to test bullets to see if they will penetrate a vest.
51 posted on 02/27/2004 10:05:47 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: philetus; Shooter 2.5
Because there is "no controlling legal aguthority," to use a Clinton-era phrase, the AG, or any future AG (like a Janet Reno) could arbitrarily designate a .22 Short as having the potential to penetrate body armor, thereby prohibiting its sale and possession.
52 posted on 02/27/2004 3:06:13 PM PST by skip2myloo
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To: Indie
Time to add a few more boxes cases to my arsenal.

Now isn't that better?

53 posted on 02/27/2004 10:00:24 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Kennedy's amendment would have done just that.

And still might, since it hasn't been vote on yet, as you can see from the above list. I think they'll vote on it on Monday or Tueday. I think that's what I remember hearing as I was listening to the Swimmer shout himself hoarse.

54 posted on 02/27/2004 10:10:18 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
You are correct. Here is the article and the website's retraction.

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/Item.asp?ID=3645
55 posted on 02/28/2004 11:23:00 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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