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Vigilantes targeting Mexican military
Tucson Citizen ^ | 14 February 2004 | Luke Turf

Posted on 02/14/2004 10:55:45 AM PST by JackelopeBreeder

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:38:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Troops help drug, people smugglers and will be shot, says leader of armed patrol in Douglas.

DOUGLAS - Rhetoric along the Mexican border here is rising, with a heavily armed group of residents declaring war on the Mexican military, and the mayor thinks chances are rising that someone will get hurt.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; borders; borderwar; drugs; illegalaliens; illegalmexicans; immigrantlist; invasion; mexicanmilitary; mexico; military; nationalsecurity; ranchrescue; smugglers; tancredo
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1 posted on 02/14/2004 10:55:45 AM PST by JackelopeBreeder
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To: Happy2BMe; gubamyster; Missouri; B4Ranch; Gallegos; Joe Hadenuf; madfly; Spiff; HiJinx; SandRat; ...
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2 posted on 02/14/2004 10:58:20 AM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
"Two in the chest and one in the head," warned Jack Foote, president of Ranch Rescue...

The FBI/BATF are in need of another training pogrom.

Mount Carmel was almost eleven years ago.

This guy and his idiot cohorts fit the bill.

3 posted on 02/14/2004 11:00:25 AM PST by Reelect President Dubya (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Let me understand this, the dispatch of armed intruders in the country illegally could cause an international incident?? Sounds right to me.
4 posted on 02/14/2004 11:00:49 AM PST by herzo
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Bump!!!
5 posted on 02/14/2004 11:03:18 AM PST by TomServo ("What a day. I invented Gainesburgers and I didn't even mean to!")
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"The next time a Mexican soldier sets foot on the small chunk of border property owned by a Ranch Rescue member group, members plan to open fire, their leader said.

"Two in the chest and one in the head," warned Jack Foote, president of Ranch Rescue, a civilian group that patrols in search of illegal immigrants and drug smugglers. He said his group is protecting the rights of property owners. "

Idiot! He has threatened members of a foreign military. The next time one of them turns up dead at or near the border, guess who's going to get arrested. Idiot!
6 posted on 02/14/2004 11:04:54 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Americans just doing the job our government WON'T do.
7 posted on 02/14/2004 11:05:39 AM PST by MamaTexan (Is anyone obligated to obey an unconstitutional government?)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
"According to the Arizona Revised Statutes, trespassing alone does not justify use of deadly force."

How about the illegal incursion of a foreign military force?

8 posted on 02/14/2004 11:10:43 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: MineralMan
Idiot! He has threatened members of a foreign military.

Armed foreign military on his "ranch." A foreign military doing an illegal incursion into the United States and threatening his life and property. Hmmmmm...he may have probable cause.

9 posted on 02/14/2004 11:14:40 AM PST by demlosers
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10 posted on 02/14/2004 11:16:52 AM PST by Missouri
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To: demlosers
What does Arizona law say about the right to self defense?

In my state you can't shoot someone unless they are in your house.

This guy may be morally right but still end up in prison.
11 posted on 02/14/2004 11:19:23 AM PST by Columbine (Bush '04 - Owens '08)
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To: demlosers
"Armed foreign military on his "ranch." A foreign military doing an illegal incursion into the United States and threatening his life and property. Hmmmmm...he may have probable cause.
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Nope. The courts aren't going to see it that way. He's announcing in advance that he's planning to shoot a member of a foreign military. If I remember right, the actual border is not all that clearly marked there. He's blowing hard, of course, and is unlikely to actually carry out his threat. If he does, he may not even survive to face trial.

I still maintain that he's an idiot.
12 posted on 02/14/2004 11:20:22 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
"Two in the chest and one in the head," warned Jack Foote, president of Ranch Rescue

A little more advice for the RR border defenders.

"Aim small, miss small".

13 posted on 02/14/2004 11:21:19 AM PST by Missouri
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If I remember right, the actual border is not all that clearly marked there.

The border is very well marked at that location.

14 posted on 02/14/2004 11:24:35 AM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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"Mexican drug smugglers. Mexican army. Pretty much the same thing. We're in a border war," he said.

Thanks to our politicians, there is no longer a thing called "a border". What is ours belongs to Mexico, and what belongs to Mexico's will remain theirs.

15 posted on 02/14/2004 11:26:38 AM PST by swampfox98 (Beyond 2004 - Chaos)
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"This isn't a game," Borane said. "That's the thing that has always worried me, that these people would cause an international incident and not only hinder relations with Mexico, but that they'd make this area become a hotbed for other organizations like that."

If the governtment and law enforcement had been doing their job there would be no "these people" to be worried about.

16 posted on 02/14/2004 11:29:44 AM PST by templar
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"This isn't a game," Borane said. "That's the thing that has always worried me, that these people would cause an international incident and not only hinder relations with Mexico, but that they'd make this area become a hotbed for other organizations like that."

Strange, isn't it, that THEIR crossing the border doesn't cause an international incident or hinder relations with the US. It's only our response to their invasion that might cause an international incident or hinder relations.

What's wrong with this picture?

17 posted on 02/14/2004 11:32:48 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (All political power grows from the barrel of a gun. -- Mao Zedong. That's why the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: MineralMan
Idiot! He has threatened members of a foreign military. The next time one of them turns up dead at or near the border, guess who's going to get arrested. Idiot!

Show me the law that prohibits shooting and killing an invading foreign military force. You can't, because there isn't one.

18 posted on 02/14/2004 11:34:30 AM PST by Trickyguy
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To: MineralMan
The border is marked by the Rio Grande for Texas, although you could argue ignorance of geography. If the bad guys shoot first he has every right to defend himself.

Yes, the authorities could arrest him for PC reasons, but if it's a trial by his peers down in Texas, I don't see them convicting him if he's in the right.

19 posted on 02/14/2004 11:34:31 AM PST by demlosers
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People are FINALLY beginning to see the reason for our Second Amendment.

Maybe the ignorant treasonous politicians will see this and either move back to china (dems)/russia(rhinos) or simple crawl back into their pig sty they came from.

20 posted on 02/14/2004 11:37:08 AM PST by steplock
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