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Who says George W. Bush has done "nothing" for conservatives?
WhiteHouse.gov; various news sources ^ | 1/27/04

Posted on 01/27/2004 7:03:00 AM PST by Wolfstar

[ED. NOTE: In the last few months, FReeper Southack put together a list of Bush administration achievements over its first three years in office, and tirelessly posted it whenever an opportunity presented itself. Southack gave me permission to take that list, organize it by topics, and enhance it with further research from whitehouse.gov and other sources. This thread is posted in gratitude to and in honor of Southack.]

Abortion & Traditional Values

  1. Banned Partial Birth Abortion — by far the most significant roll-back of abortion on demand since Roe v. Wade.
  2. Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy.
  3. By Executive Order (EO), reversed Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions under the Medical Privacy Act.
  4. By EO, prohibited federal funds for international family planning groups that provide abortions and related services.
  5. Upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals.
  6. Made $33 million available for abstinence education programs in 2004.
  7. Supports the Defense of Marriage Act — and a Constitutional amendment saying marriage is between one man and one woman.
  8. Requires states to conduct criminal background checks on prospective foster and adoptive parents.
  9. Requires districts to let students transfer out of dangerous schools.
  10. Requires schools to have a zero-tolerance policy for classroom disruption (reintroducing discipline into classrooms).
  11. Signed the Teacher Protection Act, which protects teachers from lawsuits related to student discipline.
  12. Expanded the role of faith-based and community organizations in after-school programs.

Budget, Taxes & Economy

  1. Signed two income tax cuts, one of which was the largest dollar-value tax cut in world history.
  2. Supports permanent elimination of the death tax.
  3. Turned around an inherited economy that was in recession, and deeply shocked as a result of the 9/11 attacks.
  4. Is seeking legislation to amend the Constitution to give the president line-item veto authority.
  5. In process of permanently eliminating IRS marriage penalty.
  6. Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people.
  7. Initiated discussion on privatizing Social Security and individual investment accounts.
  8. Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules would have shut down every home business in America.
  9. Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.
  10. Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains.
  11. Signed trade promotion authority.
  12. Reduced and is working to ultimately eliminate the estate tax for family farms and ranches.
  13. Fight Europe's ban on importing biotech crops from the United States.
  14. Exempt food from unilateral trade sanctions and embargoes.
  15. Provided $20 million to states to help people with disabilities work from home.
  16. Created a fund to encourage technologies that help the disabled.
  17. Increased the annual contribution limit on Education IRA's from $500 to $2,000 per child.
  18. Make permanent the $5,000 adoption tax credit and provide $1 billion over five years to increase the credit to $10,000.
  19. Grant a complete tax exemption for prepaid or college tuition savings plans.
  20. Reduced H1B visas from a high of 195,000 per year to 66,000 per year.

Character & Conduct as President

  1. Changed the tone in the White House, restoring HONOR and DIGNITY to the presidency.
  2. Has reintroduced the mention of God and faith into public discourse.
  3. Handled himself with enormous courage, dignity, grace, determination, and leadership in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 hijackings and anthrax attacks. He almost single-handedly held this country together during those searing days:

Education & Employment Training

  1. Signed the No Child Left Behind Act, delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations). The very liberal California Teachers union is currently running radio ads against the accountability provisions of this Act.
  2. Announced "Jobs for the 21st Century," a comprehensive plan to better prepare workers for jobs in the new millennium by strengthening post-secondary education and job training, and by improving high school education.
  3. Is working to provide vouchers to low-income students in persistently failing schools to help with costs of attending private schools. (Blocked in the Senate.)
  4. Requires annual reading and math tests in grades three through eight.
  5. Requires states to participate in the National Assessment of Education Progress, or an equivalent program, to establish a national benchmark for academic performance.
  6. Requires school-by-school accountability report cards.
  7. Established a $2.4 billion fund to help states implement teacher accountability systems.
  8. Increased funding for the Troops-to-Teachers program, which recruits former military personnel to to become teachers.

Environment & Energy

  1. Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty.
  2. Submitted a comprehensive Energy Plan (awaits Congressional action). The plan works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc.
  3. Established a $10 million grant program to promote private conservation initiatives.
  4. Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.
  5. Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary cleanup of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.
  6. Part of national forests cleanup: Restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges), and removed the need for an Environmental Impact Statement before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.
  7. Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California.
  8. Provided matching grants for state programs that help private landowners protect rare species.

Defense & Foreign Policy

  1. Successfully executed two wars in the aftermath of 9/11/01: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom.
  2. Saddam Hussein is now in prison. His two murderous sons are dead. All but a handful of the regime's senior members were killed or captured.
  3. Leader by leader and member by member, al Qaida is being hunted down in dozens of countries around the world. Of the senior al Qaida leaders, operational managers, and key facilitators the U.S. Government has been tracking, nearly two-thirds have been taken into custody or killed. The detentions or deaths of senior al Qaida leaders, including Khalid Shaykh Muhammad, the mastermind of 9/11, and Muhammad Atef, Osama bin Laden's second-in-command until his death in late 2001, have been important in the War on Terror.
  4. Disarmed Libya of its chemical, nuclear and biological WMD's without bribes or bloodshed.
  5. Continues to execute the War On Terror, getting worldwide cooperation to track funds/terrorists. Has cut off much of the terrorists' funding, and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network.
  6. Initiated a comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, and which accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE capabilities were critical in the 21st Century.
  7. Killed the old US/Soviet Union ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses.
  8. Has been one of the strongest, if not THE strongest friend Israel has ever hand in the U.S. presidency.
  9. Part of the coalition for an Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace," along with Great Britain, Russia and the EU.
  10. Pushed through THREE raises for our military. Increased military pay by more than $1 billion a year.
  11. Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia.
  12. Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia, and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.
  13. Prohibited putting U.S. troops under U.N. command.
  14. Paid back UN dues only in return for reforms and reduction of U.S. share of the costs.
  15. Earmarked at least 20 percent of the Defense procurement budget for next-generation weaponry.
  16. Increased defense research and development spending by at least $20 billion from fiscal 2002 to 2006.
  17. Ordered a comprehensive review of military weapons and strategy.
  18. Ordered a review of overseas deployments.
  19. Ordered renovation of military housing. The military has already upgraded about 10 percent of its inventory and expects to modernize 76,000 additional homes this year.
  20. Is working to tighten restrictions on military-technology exports.
  21. Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed.

Globalization & Internationalism

  1. Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become another League of Nations (in other words, showed the UN to be completely irrelevant).
  2. Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court.
  3. Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control (i.e., the International Ban on Small Arms Trafficking Treaty).*
  4. The only President since the founding of the UN to essentially tell that organization it is irrelevant. He said: "The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations, and a threat to peace. Iraq has answered a decade of UN demands with a decade of defiance. All the world now faces a test, and the United Nations a difficult and defining moment. Are Security Council resolutions to be honored and enforced, or cast aside without consequence? Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant?" We all know the outcome and the answer.
  5. Told the Congress and the world, "America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country."

Government Reform

  1. Improved government efficiency by putting hundreds of thousands of jobs put up for bid. This weakens public-sector unions and cuts undeserved pay raises.
  2. Initiated review of all federal agencies with the goal of eliminating federal jobs (completed September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of the federal government while increasing private sector jobs.
  3. Led the most extensive reorganization the Federal bureaucracy in over 50 years: After 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency, the Department of Homeland Security.*
  4. Ordered each agency to draft a five-year plan to restructure itself, with fewer managers.
  5. Converted federal service contracts to performance-based contracts wherever possible so that the contractor has measurable performance goals.

Health

  1. Strengthen the National Health Service Corps to put more physicians in the neediest areas, and make its scholarship funds tax-free.
  2. Double the research budget of the National Institutes of Health.
  3. Signed Medicare Reform, which includes:

Homeland Security, Border Enforcement & Immigration

  1. *See Government Reform above. Under President Bush's leadership, America has made an unprecedented commitment to homeland security.
  2. Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the first 10 ABM silos in Alaska so that America will have a defense against North Korean nukes. Has ordered national and theater ballistic missile defenses to be deployed by 2004.
  3. Announced a 9.7% increase in government-wide homeland security funding in his FY 2005 budget, nearly tripling the FY 2001 levels (excluding the Department of Defense and Project BioShield).
  4. Before DHS was created, there were inspectors from three different agencies of the Federal Government and Border Patrol officers protecting our borders. Through DHS, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) now consolidates all border activities into a single agency to create "one face at the border." This not only better secures the borders of the United States, but it also eliminates many of the inefficiencies that occurred under the old system. With over 18,000 CBP inspectors and 11,000 Border Patrol agents, CBP has 29,000 uniformed officers on our borders.
  5. The Border Patrol is continuing installation of monitoring devices along the borders to detect illegal activity.
  6. Launched Operation Tarmac to investigate businesses and workers in the secure areas of domestic airports and ensure immigration law compliance. Since 9/11, DHS has audited 3,640 businesses, examined 259,037 employee records, arrested 1,030 unauthorized workers, and participated in the criminal indictment of 774 individuals.
  7. Since September 11, 2001, the Coast Guard has conducted more than 124,000 port security patrols, 13,000 air patrols, boarded more than 92,000 vessels, interdicted over 14,000 individuals attempting to enter the United States illegally, and created and maintained more than 90 Maritime Security Zones.
  8. Announced the Student and Exchange Visitor Information System (SEVIS), an internet-based system that is improving America's ability to track and monitor foreign students and exchange visitors. Over 870,000 students are registered in SEVIS. Of 285 completed field investigations, 71 aliens were arrested.
  9. This week, the US-VISIT program began to digitally collect biometric identifiers to record the entry and exit of aliens who travel into the U.S on a visa. Together with the standard information, this new program will confirm compliance with visa and immigration policies.
  10. Eliminated INS bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability.
  11. Split the Immigration and Naturalization Service into two agencies: one to protect the border and interior, the other to deal with naturalization.
  12. Signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal aliens.
  13. Established a six-month deadline for processing immigration applications.
  14. Information regarding nearly 100% of all containerized cargo is carefully screened by DHS before it arrives in the United States. Higher risk shipments are physically inspected for terrorist weapons and contraband prior to being released from the port of entry. Advanced technologies are being deployed to identify warning signs of chemical, biological, or radiological attacks. Since September 11, 2001, hundreds of thousands of first responders across America have been trained to recognize and respond to the effects of a WMD attack.

Judiciary & Tort Reform

  1. Is urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits.
  2. Killed the liberal ABA's unconstitutional role in vetting federal judges. The Senate is supposed to advise and consent, not the ABA.
  3. Is nominating strong, conservative judges to the judiciary.
  4. Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims.

Politics

  1. His leadership resulted in Republican gains in the House and Senate, solidifying Republican control of both houses of Congress and the presidency.
  2. Signed an EO enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision regarding union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes.

Second Amendment

  1. Ordered Attorney General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, and is NOT a Leftist-imagined "collective" right.
  2. Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit.
  3. Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers.
  4. *See Globalization & Internationalism.

Traditional Values, Compassion & Volunteerism

  1. Endorses and promotes "The Responsibility Era." President Bush often speaks of the necessity of personal responsibility and civic volunteerism. He said, "In a compassionate society, people respect one another and take responsibility for the decisions they make in life. My hope is to change the culture from one that has said, if it feels good, do it; if you've got a problem, blame somebody else — to one in which every single American understands that he or she is responsible for the decisions that you make; you're responsible for loving your children with all your heart and all your soul; you're responsible for being involved with the quality of the education of your children; you're responsible for making sure the community in which you live is safe; you're responsible for loving your neighbor, just like you would like to be loved yourself."
  2. Started the USA Freedom Corps, the most comprehensive clearinghouse of volunteer opportunities ever offered. For the first time in history, Americans can enter geographic information about where they want to get involved, such as state or zip code, as well as areas of interest ranging from education to the environment, and they can access volunteer opportunities offered by more than 50,000 organizations across the country and around the world.
  3. Established the The White House Office and the Centers for the Faith-Based and Community Initiative — located in seven Federal agencies. The faith-based initiative supports the essential work of these important organizations. The goal is to make sure that grassroots leaders can compete on an equal footing for federal dollars, receive greater private support, and face fewer bureaucratic barriers. Work focuses on at-risk youth, ex-offenders, the homeless and hungry, substance abusers, those with HIV/AIDS, and welfare-to-work families.
  4. The White House released a guidebook fully describing the Administration's belief that faith-based groups have a Constitutionally-protected right to maintain their religious identity through hiring — even when Federal funds are involved.
  5. Issued an EO implementing the Supreme Court's Olmstead ruling, which requires moving disabled people from institutions to community-based facilities when possible.
  6. Increased funding for low-interest loan programs to help people with disabilities purchase devices to assist them.
  7. Revised the Department of Housing and Urban Development's Section 8 rent subsidies to disabled people, permitting them to use up to a year's worth of vouchers to finance down payments on homes. HUD has started pilot programs in 11 states.
  8. Committed US funds to purchase medicine for millions of men, women and children now suffering with AIDS in Africa.
  9. Heeding the words of our own Declaration of Independence, the president laid out the non-negotiable demands of human dignity for all people everywhere. On January 29, 2002, he said, "No nation owns these aspirations, and no nation is exempt from them. We have no intention of imposing our culture. But America will always stand firm for the non-negotiable demands of human dignity." As stated by the President, they are a virtual manifesto of conservative principles:


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To: gatorbait
Kay... Sum dim and sum can only aspire to dim :-)
961 posted on 01/27/2004 9:28:58 PM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: afropick
Also Pres Bush does have a duty to protect the borders, but it does not help if the governors, mayors, and other local politicians refuse to enforce their own state and municipal laws. Democrats still hold a sizable number of the state legislatures and even if the Pres tried to deport even a small number of illegals, they would stampede to the nearest court, claming violations of civil rights.

You hit it hard and on target! When there are cities and counties and states which refuse to help stem the tide, there is not a lot GWB or the INS can do about it. Speaking of the INS, be really careful about quoting the shop steward of a union local. The leadership of Federal unions is overwhelmingly Democrat, though the rank and file in general are not.

962 posted on 01/27/2004 9:31:14 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Wolfstar
The list came a long way from this:

Presidency of George W. Bush -- the first 36 months

 

Banned Partial Birth Abortion

Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy

Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty

Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court

Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California.

Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules that would have shut down every home business in America.

Killed the U.S. - CCCP ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses


Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the first ten ABM silos in Alaska so that America has a defense against North Korean nukes

 

Pushed through THREE raises for our military.

Increased Defense Dept funding which had deteriorated during the previous 8 years

 

Stopped foreign aid that would be used to fund abortions.

Supported and upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals

Signed E.O. reversing Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions under the Medical Privacy Act

Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit

Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers

Ordered Attorney-General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, NOT a leftist-imagined *collective* right


Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control (i.e. the International Ban on Small Arms Trafficking Treaty)

Disarmed Libya of its Chemical, Nuclear, and biological WMD's without bribes or bloodshed

Successfully executed 2 wars: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom

 

Executed a WAR ON TERROR by getting world-wide cooperation to track funds/terrorists (has cut off much of the terrorist's funding and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network)

 

Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed

Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.

Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia

Initiated comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE was critical.

Changed the tone in the White House, restoring HONOR and DIGNITY to the Presidency

Reorganized bureaucracy...after 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency: the Department of Homeland Security.

Initiated discussion on privatizing Social Security and individual investment accounts.

Improving govt. efficiency with .8 million jobs put up for bid...weakening unions and cutting undeserved pay raises. Wants merit based promotions/raises only.

Orchestrated Republican control of the White House, the House AND the Senate.

Killed the liberal ABA's role in vetting federal judges for Congress.

GWB signed an executive order enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision (re: union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes)

Turned around an inherited economy that was in recession.

Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.

Signed 2 income tax cuts ---- 1 of which was the largest Dollar value tax cut in world history


Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains

In process of eliminating IRS marriage penalty.

Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people


Signed into law the No Child Left Behind legislation delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations)

Reorganized the INS in an attempt to safeguard the borders and ports of America and to eliminate bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability.

Signed trade promotion authority

Committed US funds to purchase medicine for millions of men and women and children now suffering with AIDS in Africa

Passed Medicare Reform (authorized $39.5 Billion per year for preventive medicine such as drugs and doctor visits as well as included a ten year Privatization option)

Urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits

Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims

Submitted comprehensive Energy Plan--awaits Congressional action (works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc.)

Endorses and promotes The Responsibility Era ("In a compassionate society, people respect one another and take responsibility for the decisions they make in life. My hope is to change the culture from one that has said, if it feels good, do it; if you've got a problem, blame somebody else -- to one in which every single American understands that he or she are responsible for the decisions that you make; you're responsible for loving your children with all your heart and all your soul; you're responsible for being involved with the quality of the education of your children; you're responsible for making sure the community in which you live is safe; you're responsible for loving your neighbor, just like you would like to be loved yourself. " -----this quote was too good to leave out)

Started the USA Freedom Corps

Initiated review of all federal agencies with a goal to eliminate federal jobs (completed September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of federal gov while increasing private sector jobs.

Part of coalition (Russia, Israel, EU, Palestine, USA) for Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace"

Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become The League of Nations ( in other words, completely irrelevant)

Nominated strong, conservative judges to the judiciary.

Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary clean-up of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.

As part of the national forests clean-up, the President restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges) and removed the need for an EIS (Environmental Impact Statement) before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.


Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.

President Bush signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal Aliens
S. 1685, the Basic Pilot Extension Act of 2003, was signed by President Bush on December 3, 2003.
It extends for five years the workplace employment eligibility authorization pilot programs created in 1996. It expands the pilot programs from the original five states to all 50 states.


963 posted on 01/27/2004 9:32:52 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: gatorbait; diotima
Some of the unappeasables truly do want the Dims to win, so we can be "punished" for our sin of not being perfect. They did they same thing to Ronald Reagan and won't admit it. There are some folks who are disappointed in the President and , good God, he is not omnipotent. Several who have vented won't abandon reality, Some will, the most vociferous ,the brigadiers and the perotistas ,who fail to see that their messiahs of the true way are far more flawed in their taste for totalitarianism hidden in a populist sheath.

I don't understand the point of this type of thinking.

It reminds me of old newsreels of "The Great Leap Forward," where Maoist subjects would whip themselves into alternating, orgiastic frenzies of vitriol and delusion, to top their neighbors' frenzies.

What good does it do to presume, incorrectly, that all is well and Panglossian with President Bush and the Republican Party?

Folks are telling you now, in January, that they aren't happy with this President. Will you ignore this for ten months, until November?

If the votes you're expecting don't materialize as you believe they should, will you wonder if you made the right decision to ignore the discontent in January?

I think you have to wear some very cinched up tinfoil to believe that the rumblings you've been reading and hearing are all, or even mostly as you've described above. It is no service to this President to ignore legitimate concerns that his constituents legitimately have with him. I've seen so much of the "don't let the door hit you in the ass" type of coalition-building on this site, and I wonder if the "all-contents" realize how very much they are like the worst of the "malcontents" about which they rail.


964 posted on 01/27/2004 9:33:44 PM PST by Sabertooth (Take the Reagan Amnesty Pop Quiz! - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065553/posts)
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To: Southack




The list came a long way from this:

In a constructive way?


965 posted on 01/27/2004 9:36:51 PM PST by Sabertooth (Take the Reagan Amnesty Pop Quiz! - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065553/posts)
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To: George W. Bush
"Utter unanimity of opinion isn't healthy for any forum."

Perhaps you could mention that to your buddies over at DU.
966 posted on 01/27/2004 9:38:11 PM PST by Tempest
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To: George W. Bush
Laughing is right! I agree with you that they are ripe for Ralphie when Dean goes down. They hate Kerry and Hillary along with Terry McC!
967 posted on 01/27/2004 9:38:17 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: Tempest; George W. Bush
George W. Bush and I are both Jim Baker fans along with Tom Delay -- no way is he from DU. You should read the rest of the thread not at the beginning!
968 posted on 01/27/2004 9:40:30 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: templar
Wiretaps are wiretaps.... once we've agreed that they are a valid tool of the government, we only have the conditions of their use to debate. Locke said it best... the only reasons for men to gather together as a state are for protection from threats outside of our community and to seek prevention and justice from individuals within that would hurt us or our property.

We wouldn't need governments "were it not for the corruption and viciousness of degenerate men" as Locke so eloquently put it. For governments to perform their essential duty they need to perform surveillance on the bad guys.
969 posted on 01/27/2004 9:42:49 PM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: Tempest; George W. Bush




*"Utter unanimity of opinion isn't healthy for any forum."

**Perhaps you could mention that to your buddies over at DU.

Is groupthink never to be avoided?


970 posted on 01/27/2004 9:44:09 PM PST by Sabertooth (Take the Reagan Amnesty Pop Quiz! - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065553/posts)
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To: Sabertooth
Do you EVER have a moment when you aren't hissing and spitting??? ;-)
971 posted on 01/27/2004 9:45:08 PM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: FirstPrinciple; PhiKapMom
"The negatives of this President vastly outweighs the positive. "

What a bunch of crap.

Whay don't you make up a list of what you believe President Bush's negatives are?

I expect to see over 107 points. Which is exactly how many positives the thread starter pointed out.

Of course I wouldn't be surprised when you sidestep the question to feign civility. Because vague platitudes seem to be your specialty.
972 posted on 01/27/2004 9:45:21 PM PST by Tempest
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To: Sabertooth
I think you have to wear some very cinched up tinfoil to believe that the rumblings you've been reading and hearing are all, or even mostly as you've described above

Well heck,I just went by you hat maker ;-)

Seriously,you moan ,scream and look for the Mexicans under your bed, then tell me that I'm not doing anyone a service? You make some good points, and I rather enjoy agreeing with you, but you also tend to be a bit protesting too much. All the screeds about going to the Constipation Party do less service, emboldening the Left in a manner an individual as sophisticated as you obviously are ,has to be aware of.

Never believe support for the good to great things Bush has dine means I'm in lockstep with him.Just like when I shoot back does not mean I diminish your exhaustive and thought provoking posts.

973 posted on 01/27/2004 9:47:23 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Tempest
He got nastier as the thread went on! His first premise was that he liked to come on here to argue. Just what we don't need IMO -- someone that wants to argue and comes on looking for a fight.
974 posted on 01/27/2004 9:47:57 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: Tamsey




Do you EVER have a moment when you aren't hissing and spitting??? ;-)

Are "brigadiers and the perotistas" or "your buddies at DU" aromatherapy?

I don't get it.


975 posted on 01/27/2004 9:48:53 PM PST by Sabertooth (Take the Reagan Amnesty Pop Quiz! - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065553/posts)
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To: Sabertooth
"If the votes you're expecting don't materialize as you believe they should, will you wonder if you made the right decision to ignore the discontent in January?"

That's the question that we are all putting our money on, one way or the other.

Frankly, I see various groups all playing this bet.

There are the legitimate Conservatives who are honestly and fairly bothered by CFR, Immigration Reform, and over spending. These are fair complaints. No one said that Bush was the second coming of Jesus. He's human. Mistakes and miscalculations are to be expected, and real Conservatives should debate whether or not he has in deed miscalculated or made mistakes on those above 3 issues. Fair cases can be made for both sides of all three arguments/issues above, and that's what forums such as FR should be used to hash out.

Then there are the disrupters, for lack of a better all-inclusive label. I'd label as a "disrupter" those 3rd Party (Green, Constitution, Libertarian, Communist, Reform, etc.) activists whose goal is spread dissent within Republican ranks while perhaps poaching a few gullible voters from our tent into their own fold. These activists are poison to any reasoned, rational debate. Typically they range from post-and-run types to flame baiters to last-word-itus professional arguers. Their stock in trade is to sieze upon any current event and complain that it isn't and hasn't been handled to their liking, that people who are less radical than they are must be unpatriotic or RINOs or statists, etc. They also like to sieze upon legitimate Conservative dissension in order to bash away at the core of what we stand for and support. They'll even pretend that harmless laws like the Patriot Act are somehow oppressive (been oppressed lately, though?!) while often simultaneously claiming that having a radical left-wing Democrat in the White House making Supreme Court appointments will be "good" for Republicans.

And then there is the third group, those of us who've become convinced that Bush is sincere, honest, and thoughtful and worthy of our trust. We actually...gasp...give the guy the benefit of the doubt on his decisions in the highest pressure political position in the land.

For this crime (as viewed by those in group 2 above) we are labeled as "bushbots" and sent some rather nasty, though harmless, private emails, among other such things.

976 posted on 01/27/2004 9:53:33 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Wolfstar
Signed two income tax cuts, one of which was the largest dollar-value tax cut in world history.

GRRRRRRRRRRRR! I'm so SICK of hearing the lie that tax cuts "cost" and can be measured as "less revenue" and thus is a dollar-value tax cut. That's ridiculous static thinking.

It's just as stupid to say Wal-Mart "cut" their revenues by dropping the price of a toaster from $15 to $14 and ignorning the increase in volume sales.

Bush cut income tax rates! This will increase the taxable income base (volume). I wish conservative and Republicans would quit using liberal Democrats words on "tax cuts"!

In process of permanently eliminating IRS marriage penalty.

Already done for the 2003 tax year. Married filing jointly now get twice the Single filer in the standard deduction instead of less than twice the Single filer as in 2002 and earlier.

In 2002, Single filer got a STD DED of $4,700 while the Married filing jointly got a STD DED of $7,850. For 2003, it's $4,750 for Single and $9,500 for Married filing jointly.

977 posted on 01/27/2004 9:54:18 PM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats are just not capable of defending our nation's security. It's that simple!)
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To: gatorbait
Seriously,you moan ,scream and look for the Mexicans under your bed, then tell me that I'm not doing anyone a service?

Racebaiting.

All the screeds about going to the Constipation Party do less service, emboldening the Left in a manner an individual as sophisticated as you obviously are ,has to be aware of.

I don't write such screeds, nor have I encouraged them. I do understand the discontent beneath them, however, and it does no service to the GOP to ignore it.

Never believe support for the good to great things Bush has dine means I'm in lockstep with him.

Your post at #958 wasn't about supporting the President, it was about your effort to demonize those who are in disagreement with him.

Even to the extent that your post might be true of a few, it's in error on the many, and will, in any case, persuade no one, but will impress the Great Leaping Choir quite nicely.


978 posted on 01/27/2004 9:55:19 PM PST by Sabertooth (Take the Reagan Amnesty Pop Quiz! - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065553/posts)
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To: George W. Bush; PhiKapMom
Those folks are ripe for Ralphie if Howie falls through.

G, you're right ,they are pretty damned ripe .Looks like Dr.Strangehate just might put his money and his disciples to good use in the Kermit Party .

979 posted on 01/27/2004 9:55:24 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Sabertooth
I don't write such screeds,

Sorry ,I had to scrape my shoes off after that one.

980 posted on 01/27/2004 10:02:47 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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