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Who says George W. Bush has done "nothing" for conservatives?
WhiteHouse.gov; various news sources ^
| 1/27/04
Posted on 01/27/2004 7:03:00 AM PST by Wolfstar
[ED. NOTE: In the last few months, FReeper Southack put together a list of Bush administration achievements over its first three years in office, and tirelessly posted it whenever an opportunity presented itself. Southack gave me permission to take that list, organize it by topics, and enhance it with further research from whitehouse.gov and other sources. This thread is posted in gratitude to and in honor of Southack.]
Abortion & Traditional Values
- Banned Partial Birth Abortion by far the most significant roll-back of abortion on demand since Roe v. Wade.
- Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy.
- By Executive Order (EO), reversed Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions under the Medical Privacy Act.
- By EO, prohibited federal funds for international family planning groups that provide abortions and related services.
- Upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals.
- Made $33 million available for abstinence education programs in 2004.
- Supports the Defense of Marriage Act and a Constitutional amendment saying marriage is between one man and one woman.
- Requires states to conduct criminal background checks on prospective foster and adoptive parents.
- Requires districts to let students transfer out of dangerous schools.
- Requires schools to have a zero-tolerance policy for classroom disruption (reintroducing discipline into classrooms).
- Signed the Teacher Protection Act, which protects teachers from lawsuits related to student discipline.
- Expanded the role of faith-based and community organizations in after-school programs.
Budget, Taxes & Economy
- Signed two income tax cuts, one of which was the largest dollar-value tax cut in world history.
- Supports permanent elimination of the death tax.
- Turned around an inherited economy that was in recession, and deeply shocked as a result of the 9/11 attacks.
- Is seeking legislation to amend the Constitution to give the president line-item veto authority.
- In process of permanently eliminating IRS marriage penalty.
- Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people.
- Initiated discussion on privatizing Social Security and individual investment accounts.
- Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules would have shut down every home business in America.
- Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.
- Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains.
- Signed trade promotion authority.
- Reduced and is working to ultimately eliminate the estate tax for family farms and ranches.
- Fight Europe's ban on importing biotech crops from the United States.
- Exempt food from unilateral trade sanctions and embargoes.
- Provided $20 million to states to help people with disabilities work from home.
- Created a fund to encourage technologies that help the disabled.
- Increased the annual contribution limit on Education IRA's from $500 to $2,000 per child.
- Make permanent the $5,000 adoption tax credit and provide $1 billion over five years to increase the credit to $10,000.
- Grant a complete tax exemption for prepaid or college tuition savings plans.
- Reduced H1B visas from a high of 195,000 per year to 66,000 per year.
Character & Conduct as President
- Changed the tone in the White House, restoring HONOR and DIGNITY to the presidency.
- Has reintroduced the mention of God and faith into public discourse.
- Handled himself with enormous courage, dignity, grace, determination, and leadership in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 hijackings and anthrax attacks. He almost single-handedly held this country together during those searing days:
- Just three days after the attacks, in his address at the National Cathedral, the President reassured the nation when he said: "War has been waged against us by stealth and deceit and murder. This nation is peaceful, but fierce when stirred to anger. This conflict was begun on the timing and terms of others. It will end in a way, and at an hour, of our choosing."
- On Friday, September 14, 2001, President Bush visited Ground Zero. Standing on a crushed and burned fire engine atop the smoldering pile at Ground Zero, he put his arm around a retired firefighter who had volunteered to help, and began speaking to the crowd. Rescue workers shouted that they could not hear him. Someone handed him a small American flag and bullhorn. The President spontaneously shouted: "I can hear you. The rest of the world hears you. And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon." The crowd roared with cheers and chants of "USA! USA! USA!" Then he raised that American flag and rallied a nation:
Education & Employment Training
- Signed the No Child Left Behind Act, delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations). The very liberal California Teachers union is currently running radio ads against the accountability provisions of this Act.
- Announced "Jobs for the 21st Century," a comprehensive plan to better prepare workers for jobs in the new millennium by strengthening post-secondary education and job training, and by improving high school education.
- Is working to provide vouchers to low-income students in persistently failing schools to help with costs of attending private schools. (Blocked in the Senate.)
- Requires annual reading and math tests in grades three through eight.
- Requires states to participate in the National Assessment of Education Progress, or an equivalent program, to establish a national benchmark for academic performance.
- Requires school-by-school accountability report cards.
- Established a $2.4 billion fund to help states implement teacher accountability systems.
- Increased funding for the Troops-to-Teachers program, which recruits former military personnel to to become teachers.
Environment & Energy
- Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty.
- Submitted a comprehensive Energy Plan (awaits Congressional action). The plan works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc.
- Established a $10 million grant program to promote private conservation initiatives.
- Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.
- Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary cleanup of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.
- Part of national forests cleanup: Restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges), and removed the need for an Environmental Impact Statement before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.
- Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California.
- Provided matching grants for state programs that help private landowners protect rare species.
Defense & Foreign Policy
- Successfully executed two wars in the aftermath of 9/11/01: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom.
- Saddam Hussein is now in prison. His two murderous sons are dead. All but a handful of the regime's senior members were killed or captured.
- Leader by leader and member by member, al Qaida is being hunted down in dozens of countries around the world. Of the senior al Qaida leaders, operational managers, and key facilitators the U.S. Government has been tracking, nearly two-thirds have been taken into custody or killed. The detentions or deaths of senior al Qaida leaders, including Khalid Shaykh Muhammad, the mastermind of 9/11, and Muhammad Atef, Osama bin Laden's second-in-command until his death in late 2001, have been important in the War on Terror.
- Disarmed Libya of its chemical, nuclear and biological WMD's without bribes or bloodshed.
- Continues to execute the War On Terror, getting worldwide cooperation to track funds/terrorists. Has cut off much of the terrorists' funding, and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network.
- Initiated a comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, and which accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE capabilities were critical in the 21st Century.
- Killed the old US/Soviet Union ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses.
- Has been one of the strongest, if not THE strongest friend Israel has ever hand in the U.S. presidency.
- Part of the coalition for an Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace," along with Great Britain, Russia and the EU.
- Pushed through THREE raises for our military. Increased military pay by more than $1 billion a year.
- Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia.
- Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia, and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.
- Prohibited putting U.S. troops under U.N. command.
- Paid back UN dues only in return for reforms and reduction of U.S. share of the costs.
- Earmarked at least 20 percent of the Defense procurement budget for next-generation weaponry.
- Increased defense research and development spending by at least $20 billion from fiscal 2002 to 2006.
- Ordered a comprehensive review of military weapons and strategy.
- Ordered a review of overseas deployments.
- Ordered renovation of military housing. The military has already upgraded about 10 percent of its inventory and expects to modernize 76,000 additional homes this year.
- Is working to tighten restrictions on military-technology exports.
- Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed.
Globalization & Internationalism
- Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become another League of Nations (in other words, showed the UN to be completely irrelevant).
- Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court.
- Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control (i.e., the International Ban on Small Arms Trafficking Treaty).*
- The only President since the founding of the UN to essentially tell that organization it is irrelevant. He said: "The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations, and a threat to peace. Iraq has answered a decade of UN demands with a decade of defiance. All the world now faces a test, and the United Nations a difficult and defining moment. Are Security Council resolutions to be honored and enforced, or cast aside without consequence? Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant?" We all know the outcome and the answer.
- Told the Congress and the world, "America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country."
Government Reform
- Improved government efficiency by putting hundreds of thousands of jobs put up for bid. This weakens public-sector unions and cuts undeserved pay raises.
- Initiated review of all federal agencies with the goal of eliminating federal jobs (completed September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of the federal government while increasing private sector jobs.
- Led the most extensive reorganization the Federal bureaucracy in over 50 years: After 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency, the Department of Homeland Security.*
- Ordered each agency to draft a five-year plan to restructure itself, with fewer managers.
- Converted federal service contracts to performance-based contracts wherever possible so that the contractor has measurable performance goals.
Health
- Strengthen the National Health Service Corps to put more physicians in the neediest areas, and make its scholarship funds tax-free.
- Double the research budget of the National Institutes of Health.
- Signed Medicare Reform, which includes:
- A 10-year privatization option.
- Prescription drug benefits: Prior to this reform, Medicare paid for extended hospital stays for ulcer surgery, for example, at a cost of about $28,000 per patient. Yet Medicare would not pay for the drugs that eliminate the cause of most ulcers, drugs that cost about $500 a year. Now, drug coverage under Medicare will allow seniors to replace more expensive surgeries and hospitalizations with less expensive prescription medicine.
- More health care choices: As President Bush stated, "
when seniors have the ability to make choices, health care plans within Medicare will have to compete for their business by offering higher quality service [at lower cost]. For the seniors of America, more choices and more control will mean better health care. These are the kinds of health care options we give to the members of Congress and federal employees. What's good for members of Congress is also good for seniors.
- New Health Savings Accounts: Effective January 1, 2004, Americans can set aside up to $4,500 every year, tax free, to save for medical expenses. Depending on your tax bracket, that means you'll save between 10 to 35 percent on any costs covered by money in your account. Every year, the money not spent would stay in the account and gain interest tax-free, just like an IRA. These accounts will be good for small business owners, and employees. More businesses can focus on covering workers for major medical problems, such as hospitalization for an injury or illness. At the same time, employees and their families will use these accounts to cover doctors visits, or lab tests, or other smaller costs. Some employers will contribute to employee health accounts. This will help more American families get the health care they need at the price they can afford.
Homeland Security, Border Enforcement & Immigration
- *See Government Reform above. Under President Bush's leadership, America has made an unprecedented commitment to homeland security.
- Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the first 10 ABM silos in Alaska so that America will have a defense against North Korean nukes. Has ordered national and theater ballistic missile defenses to be deployed by 2004.
- Announced a 9.7% increase in government-wide homeland security funding in his FY 2005 budget, nearly tripling the FY 2001 levels (excluding the Department of Defense and Project BioShield).
- Before DHS was created, there were inspectors from three different agencies of the Federal Government and Border Patrol officers protecting our borders. Through DHS, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) now consolidates all border activities into a single agency to create "one face at the border." This not only better secures the borders of the United States, but it also eliminates many of the inefficiencies that occurred under the old system. With over 18,000 CBP inspectors and 11,000 Border Patrol agents, CBP has 29,000 uniformed officers on our borders.
- The Border Patrol is continuing installation of monitoring devices along the borders to detect illegal activity.
- Launched Operation Tarmac to investigate businesses and workers in the secure areas of domestic airports and ensure immigration law compliance. Since 9/11, DHS has audited 3,640 businesses, examined 259,037 employee records, arrested 1,030 unauthorized workers, and participated in the criminal indictment of 774 individuals.
- Since September 11, 2001, the Coast Guard has conducted more than 124,000 port security patrols, 13,000 air patrols, boarded more than 92,000 vessels, interdicted over 14,000 individuals attempting to enter the United States illegally, and created and maintained more than 90 Maritime Security Zones.
- Announced the Student and Exchange Visitor Information System (SEVIS), an internet-based system that is improving America's ability to track and monitor foreign students and exchange visitors. Over 870,000 students are registered in SEVIS. Of 285 completed field investigations, 71 aliens were arrested.
- This week, the US-VISIT program began to digitally collect biometric identifiers to record the entry and exit of aliens who travel into the U.S on a visa. Together with the standard information, this new program will confirm compliance with visa and immigration policies.
- Eliminated INS bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability.
- Split the Immigration and Naturalization Service into two agencies: one to protect the border and interior, the other to deal with naturalization.
- Signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal aliens.
- Established a six-month deadline for processing immigration applications.
- Information regarding nearly 100% of all containerized cargo is carefully screened by DHS before it arrives in the United States. Higher risk shipments are physically inspected for terrorist weapons and contraband prior to being released from the port of entry. Advanced technologies are being deployed to identify warning signs of chemical, biological, or radiological attacks. Since September 11, 2001, hundreds of thousands of first responders across America have been trained to recognize and respond to the effects of a WMD attack.
Judiciary & Tort Reform
- Is urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits.
- Killed the liberal ABA's unconstitutional role in vetting federal judges. The Senate is supposed to advise and consent, not the ABA.
- Is nominating strong, conservative judges to the judiciary.
- Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims.
Politics
- His leadership resulted in Republican gains in the House and Senate, solidifying Republican control of both houses of Congress and the presidency.
- Signed an EO enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision regarding union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes.
Second Amendment
- Ordered Attorney General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, and is NOT a Leftist-imagined "collective" right.
- Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit.
- Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers.
- *See Globalization & Internationalism.
Traditional Values, Compassion & Volunteerism
- Endorses and promotes "The Responsibility Era." President Bush often speaks of the necessity of personal responsibility and civic volunteerism. He said, "In a compassionate society, people respect one another and take responsibility for the decisions they make in life. My hope is to change the culture from one that has said, if it feels good, do it; if you've got a problem, blame somebody else to one in which every single American understands that he or she is responsible for the decisions that you make; you're responsible for loving your children with all your heart and all your soul; you're responsible for being involved with the quality of the education of your children; you're responsible for making sure the community in which you live is safe; you're responsible for loving your neighbor, just like you would like to be loved yourself."
- Started the USA Freedom Corps, the most comprehensive clearinghouse of volunteer opportunities ever offered. For the first time in history, Americans can enter geographic information about where they want to get involved, such as state or zip code, as well as areas of interest ranging from education to the environment, and they can access volunteer opportunities offered by more than 50,000 organizations across the country and around the world.
- Established the The White House Office and the Centers for the Faith-Based and Community Initiative located in seven Federal agencies. The faith-based initiative supports the essential work of these important organizations. The goal is to make sure that grassroots leaders can compete on an equal footing for federal dollars, receive greater private support, and face fewer bureaucratic barriers. Work focuses on at-risk youth, ex-offenders, the homeless and hungry, substance abusers, those with HIV/AIDS, and welfare-to-work families.
- The White House released a guidebook fully describing the Administration's belief that faith-based groups have a Constitutionally-protected right to maintain their religious identity through hiring even when Federal funds are involved.
- Issued an EO implementing the Supreme Court's Olmstead ruling, which requires moving disabled people from institutions to community-based facilities when possible.
- Increased funding for low-interest loan programs to help people with disabilities purchase devices to assist them.
- Revised the Department of Housing and Urban Development's Section 8 rent subsidies to disabled people, permitting them to use up to a year's worth of vouchers to finance down payments on homes. HUD has started pilot programs in 11 states.
- Committed US funds to purchase medicine for millions of men, women and children now suffering with AIDS in Africa.
- Heeding the words of our own Declaration of Independence, the president laid out the non-negotiable demands of human dignity for all people everywhere. On January 29, 2002, he said, "No nation owns these aspirations, and no nation is exempt from them. We have no intention of imposing our culture. But America will always stand firm for the non-negotiable demands of human dignity." As stated by the President, they are a virtual manifesto of conservative principles:
- Equal Justice
- Freedom of Speech
- Limited Government Power
- Private Property Rights
- Religious Tolerance
- Respect for Women
- Rule of Law
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To: onyx
Tell that to Vermont and Massachusettes.Guess what. That's the problem of Vermont and Massachusetts. The citizens of those states need to approach their state legislatures and deal with it. As are 37 other state legislatures now discussing how best to pass a law that will not be overturned. Contrary to your apparent wishes by your postings, not everyone looks to Washington to 'fix' every issue.
IF you do more than bitch, color me happily suprised
You can color yourself whatever color you want, frankly I could care less. Just because my beliefs are based in principle over party does not make me 'unappeasable'. However, it does make me a conservative
541
posted on
01/27/2004 11:46:19 AM PST
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice.)
To: Neets
You mean like these folks?
That's a joke, right? Is there really such a group? With a motto "McGovern '72, Part II" and an attribution to the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"?
I thought that was just stuff people did with Photoshop to make the DUers crazy.
To: Ophiucus
Karl Rove is actively trying to find a Republican to run against Tancredo because Tancredo opposes any amnesty or coddling of illgals.
There's your first example.
543
posted on
01/27/2004 11:47:02 AM PST
by
Bikers4Bush
(Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
To: Miss Marple
The number one issue in this election is national security. We are at war with a group of Islamic terrorists who want to destroy this nation and Western Civilization. Not one of the democrats (except possibly Lieberman) would prosecute the war on terror, and Lieberman isn't going to get the nomination. To elect a democrat means we lose Cheney, Rice, and RUMNSFELD. It means we have the horrible Rat appointees in all cabinet positions, such as a Janet Reno type as Attorney General. It means that we will have a democrat for Secretary of State, and if you don't think Bill Clinton wants that job, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
I do not want another Ruth Bader Ginsberg appointed to the Supreme Court. I don't want a Sandy Berger type asNational Security Advisor. I don't want to see taxes raised, the UN kissed up to, and France appeased.
I want the military funded and not turned into a social experiment. I want my grandchildren to be able to worship at their Lutheran church and I don't want my granddaughters wearing burkhas!!
Spending and domestic policy can be reversed by future Coongressional action. Foreign policy and defense actions, on the other hand, are controlled exclusively by the executive branch, and a Rat in charge would risk the safety of this nation.
I support the President, I am proud to, and I think those who are threatening to go third party or stay home are supporting the Rats, willingly or not. It is a foolish and dangerous position.
Just wanted to bump this excellent post. These sentiments come straight from my heart too.
544
posted on
01/27/2004 11:47:22 AM PST
by
LucyJo
To: hchutch; Neets
WOO-HOO! Thanks. I hope it holds!
See #539! LOL! Fingers crossed.
545
posted on
01/27/2004 11:47:55 AM PST
by
onyx
(Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
To: prairiebreeze
...one of the most trying and difficult times in American history....certainly THE most trying in recent years.
Yes, very much so. In our "me-generation," instant-gratification era, too many have quickly forgotten that 9/11/01 and the anthrax attacks were:
- The first acts of war by an external enemy on any of the 13 former orginal colonies since 1812.
- The first large-scale bioweapons attack, not just on U.S. soil, but in history (to my knowledge).
- The first time any nation's entire air traffic was grounded.
- One of the very rare times (if not the only time) when Wall Street and other markets were shut down for days.
I don't know if the magnitude of what happened that Fall has yet sunk into the minds of many Americans. If we had a president in office who indulged in finger-pointing at the prior administration, or at the other political party, or who didn't act decisively to kick-start the nation's economy, or destroy our enemies, who knows where we'd be today.
There is nothing more truly conservative (and Republican) than actions and behavior of George W. Bush in the aftermath of 9/11/01 and the anthrax attacks. For people who genuinely consider themselves conservatives to fail to reward this President for literally conserving the nation getting it through those dark days with the least possible long-term damage would be, frankly, dishonorable.
546
posted on
01/27/2004 11:49:43 AM PST
by
Wolfstar
(George W. Bush — the 1st truly great world leader of the 21st Century)
To: The Old Hoosier
BUSH/CHENEY 2004!!!Getting more done for Conservatives than the whiners will ever admit.......... :o)
547
posted on
01/27/2004 11:49:44 AM PST
by
ohioWfan
(BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
To: Wolfstar
Sabertooth, as you and I have already discussed, immigration appears to be your key issue. It's not for many other people, though.
You brought up a host of issues, and I didn't feel that the point was well-taken that they are all examples of conservative accomplishments by President Bush, though many certainly are. I mentioned several, Illegal Aliens and enforcement of our immigration laws being one. While many may not find that to be a pressing issue, many clearly do. That's why the topic is getting so much play, not only on this thread, and in this forum, but on talk radio, in the news, and in the country at large. As mentioned, the President's immigration proposal is already DOA in the House.
So? Illegal Aliens are now a hot button issue this election, and the President is the one that's made it so, with his highly unpopular Amnesty proposal. That's not going to change between now and November. But if the Democrats were able to wrest control of either chamber of Congress or the White House, without doubt they would pass a bona fide blanket amnesty so fast it would make our heads spin.
First: no, they wouldn't pass a "blanket Amnesty," no one would, though they'd likely pass a worse Amnesty than President Bush is proposing. The term "Blanket Amnesty" is never anything more than a red herring. It means "Amnesty without restriction," and even the Democrats would have restrictions. Second: by proposing his own Amnesty and striking a highly divisive chord in the GOP, President Bush has empowered the Democrats. He's the source of the problem, not the people he's angered. America's vociferous and widespread opposition should not have been a surprise, and the semantic contortions the President has engaged to deny his Amnesty is an Amnesty are evidence it wasn't a surprise. To whatever degree his Amnesty proposal hinders GOP turnout in November, President Bush will be the person most responsible for that. They would be aided by John McCain, J. D. Hayworth, and several other border state Republicans, which means they would have an excellent change of getting it past both the House and Senate. There is where efforts to kill any form of amnesty should be focused.
Sorry, no deal. Congress must also be addressed, but Amnesty should be opposed wherever it's advanced, and right now, President Bush is by far the most powerful proponent of Amnesty for Illegal Aliens.
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548
posted on
01/27/2004 11:49:54 AM PST
by
Sabertooth
(Take the Reagan Amnesty Pop Quiz! - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065553/posts)
To: Bikers4Bush
Karl Rove is actively trying to find a Republican to run against Tancredo because Tancredo opposes any amnesty or coddling of illgals. There's your first example.
The hell you say?!
(I wonder when Colorado's filing period ends...)
549
posted on
01/27/2004 11:50:43 AM PST
by
StoneColdGOP
(McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
To: George W. Bush; doodlelady
What is it with you and the "staff" bit? Did you buy FreeRepublic from Jim and not tell us about it? You're just a FReeper like the rest of us. Just because you chose to disguise yourself as the POTUS doesn't mean you actually are.
By the way, my dear, some disruptive FReepers have been allowed to remain for YEARS before being given the boot.
550
posted on
01/27/2004 11:50:48 AM PST
by
arasina
(So there.)
To: PhiKapMom
Remember when you came on FR -- would you have started flaming immediately or would you have laid back to see the lay of the land?
I take your point. But actually, yes, I did pretty much start flaming away, just like everyone else.
That was six months before the first primary. Buchanan, Keyes, Forbes, Bush, they all had pretty rabid contingents here. Of course, nothing was happening officially so we mostly ate each others alive, I think.
A lot of the bitching going on here doesn't mean as much now as it would in the fall when we actually have to cast a ballot. Some people, like me, live in a state so Red we don't have to worry over the electoral college.
To: Tamsey; MeekOneGOP; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; dixiechick2000; nopardons; potlatch; PhilDragoo; ..
Same method "advocated" by "pure Conservatives", as seen in CA recently.
Let the opposition party win.
Let things get so bad that the citizens will rise up and vote them out.
Think 1930s Germany.
Ross Perotistas and PattyCakers.
Think 1992.
8 years.
Look at the new dem crop.
Worse than Slick!
Note Hillary is getting behind our troops to look more "centrist" now?
NYC voters are again getting anti-Iraq War, even after 911.
70% that died in WTC II on 911 voted Gore/Hillary/OBL in 2000
Brutal but true.
Based on how NYC and NY and NJ vote in Nov 2004 I will decide how I respond when NYC gets hit again.
All they seem to want is more money like a massive personal LOTTO win.
552
posted on
01/27/2004 11:51:46 AM PST
by
autoresponder
(DEAN GOES NUTS: http://00access.tripod.com/Dean.html http://00access.tripod.com/SlickWillie.html)
To: Neets
LOL No, not like them at all.
To: Neets
Thanks, Neets. Love your graphic. The race is not always to the swift, but to the wise.
554
posted on
01/27/2004 11:51:49 AM PST
by
Wolfstar
(George W. Bush — the 1st truly great world leader of the 21st Century)
To: George W. Bush
555
posted on
01/27/2004 11:53:08 AM PST
by
Neets
(Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
To: George W. Bush; Neets; yall
556
posted on
01/27/2004 11:53:27 AM PST
by
onyx
(Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
To: The Old Hoosier
I just don't think we help push Bush to the right by shutting up and coddling his liberal tendencies. We can't...you're correct there. But staying home this November and/or giving support to the alternatives will not push Bush or America to the right either. Write letters, send emails, vote for and support authentic conservative candidates at the senatorial/congressional/state/local levels. See the bigger picture and the historical picture. Yes, it is true that liberal tendencies have infultrated the Republican party as well; in some ways...we've made that bed and now have to sleep in it; in other ways its completely our fault for voting for RINO's; and in some cases the party simply fields a candidate that is electable instead of principled...or worse, its simply about money and power. Thats reality. The brainwashing, socialistic, dumbing-down, anti-American, NWO, globalist, baby killing, death party ideals of liberalism that has infested todays American culture that last 50? or so years is a reality as well. I'm fed up with it too and would love for it to be different. While it is realistic to hold public officials accountable, it is not realistic to expect a %100 shift to the right after 3 years or 8 years of an administration. This will take time...and it won't be perfect. Politics isn't perfect (except in a communistic state /sarcasm)
I'm not a big fan of the 2 party system either...but right now, its a reality. No viable, conservative, principled, electable, 3rd party with staying power and a support base exists right now. It just don't. We have to go with our best shot, and right now...thats GWB and the Republican party. Given GWB's overall record...you must at least conclude that he is %100 better than Clinton/Gore H.Clinton/Clarke or Dean/Edwards (do you envision the kind of world where Howard Dean has the ability to pull the nuclear trigger?); we're just not going to get soemthing like a Paul/Tancredo ticket right now...but thats not to say that in the future...that won't be possible.
557
posted on
01/27/2004 11:53:42 AM PST
by
BureaucratusMaximus
(If we aren't going to be a Constitutional Republic...lets be the best empire we can be.)
To: Lead Moderator
Darn!!!
558
posted on
01/27/2004 11:54:10 AM PST
by
Neets
(Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
To: Wolfstar
I think what they really want is a Fairy Godmother to wave a magic wand and remake the world into a perfect pumpkin.That sounds like what Weasley Clark is claiming to be able to do. :o)
559
posted on
01/27/2004 11:55:41 AM PST
by
arasina
(So there.)
To: George W. Bush
Yes, we have seen some posting talking points. I've seen two Kerry guys who were using stuff directly off his page. There may have been more. That's just me, and it just happens that I recognized the lines after checking something out over there.
Regards, LM
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