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Remember when you came on FR -- would you have started flaming immediately or would you have laid back to see the lay of the land?

I take your point. But actually, yes, I did pretty much start flaming away, just like everyone else.

That was six months before the first primary. Buchanan, Keyes, Forbes, Bush, they all had pretty rabid contingents here. Of course, nothing was happening officially so we mostly ate each others alive, I think.

A lot of the bitching going on here doesn't mean as much now as it would in the fall when we actually have to cast a ballot. Some people, like me, live in a state so Red we don't have to worry over the electoral college.

But notice it was about the Republican primaries where we all got in flame wars. It was Republican against Republican for the most part especially after Pat went to Reform. Those were different kinds of flame wars and comments then we see today. Everyone wanted their own candidate to win and we had some knock out fights about our candidates. But in the end most of united when the Florida fiasco started because the thought of Gore was just too much for us to consider. Republicans don't have a real primary this time around but some of these posters never show up on the threads about the Democrat candidates and trash them. That is where it looks really odd -- only trash Pres Bush but no DemocRATs.

I recognize the disagreements with the President and understand the frustration even if I don't share all of it, but to threaten to vote for a RAT or stay home -- no Republican is going to do that -- having spent so many years in the minority -- no way we are not voting or voting for a liberal DemocRAT. We put our differences aside, hold our nose, and vote for the Republican candidate depending the year. Mine was 1996 when Dole ran who was my last choice of all the candidates -- I voted for Phil Gramm in the primary but in the general I voted for Dole. He won Texas at least.