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But notice it was about the Republican primaries where we all got in flame wars. It was Republican against Republican for the most part especially after Pat went to Reform. Those were different kinds of flame wars and comments then we see today. Everyone wanted their own candidate to win and we had some knock out fights about our candidates. But in the end most of united when the Florida fiasco started because the thought of Gore was just too much for us to consider. Republicans don't have a real primary this time around but some of these posters never show up on the threads about the Democrat candidates and trash them. That is where it looks really odd -- only trash Pres Bush but no DemocRATs.

I recognize the disagreements with the President and understand the frustration even if I don't share all of it, but to threaten to vote for a RAT or stay home -- no Republican is going to do that -- having spent so many years in the minority -- no way we are not voting or voting for a liberal DemocRAT. We put our differences aside, hold our nose, and vote for the Republican candidate depending the year. Mine was 1996 when Dole ran who was my last choice of all the candidates -- I voted for Phil Gramm in the primary but in the general I voted for Dole. He won Texas at least.

But notice it was about the Republican primaries where we all got in flame wars. It was Republican against Republican for the most part especially after Pat went to Reform.

Absolutely. I think I'm about the only one who stayed Republican but then, voter registration is meaningless here anyway. In the end, only a few of the Brigade voted Pat. The rest of us voted Bush and worked the Floriduh thing with everyone else, Buchanan's nasty attempt to argue that his Floriduh votes actually belonged to Gore being the final straw(!!!). Along with the impeachment, those were FR's finest moments actually.

Republicans don't have a real primary this time around but some of these posters never show up on the threads about the Democrat candidates and trash them. That is where it looks really odd -- only trash Pres Bush but no DemocRATs.

I probably don't get around enough to notice. But then, without our own primary or a threat to gun rights, people have to have something to do. FR is, by its nature and entire history, combative. We...um...tend to attract a certain type of voter/activist, if you hadn't noticed.

As to your other remarks, I think the greater threat to Bush and especially to downstream candidates will not be third-party or crossovers. It'll be the stay-homes, 3 million in 2000 and a number that keeps growing among the GOP base according to Rove. I keep telling myself I don't have a good reason to vote since Bush will take my state (or at least my congressional district) anyway and the state candidate I hate most is going to win the governorship if he even hints he wants it. But by fall, I'll have a burr up my butt about something and race to the polls to vote against something, certain that the fate of the free world hangs upon it. But then, I don't ever end up voting for anyone unless I see something positive in it, otherwise, it's a blank ballot, something that shocks the old people who count the votes. But they only whisper among themselves and I wouldn't care if it was open-ballot instead of secret-ballot anyway. I don't give a crap what anyone else thinks of my voting.

Uh-oh. Getting a little too honest here.