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Distressing Development in Terri's Case
Terri'sFight.org ^ | January 17, 2004

Posted on 01/17/2004 7:21:12 PM PST by amdgmary

This document is titled "Petition to Modify Visitation Rules" and was filed on behalf of Michael Schiavo by attorney Deborah Bushnell. The language in this document has caused tremendous concern.

You can view the entire document by clicking here.

Part 1, Paragraph 5: "When the ward is in the hospital, petitioner should be permitted to more strictly regulate the ward's visitors in order to accommodate the need for hospital personnel to administer medication and treatments unimpeded."

Does this language mean to say that Terri's immediate family will no longer be able to visit or see her should she become hospitalized?

Part 2, Paragraph 7: "Visitors are prohibited from evaluating, examining, treating or testing the ward, or causing the ward to be evaluated, examined, treated or tested by any physician, therapist or other person without prior Court approval.

Does this language mean that Terri's family can no longer ask for assistance if she suffers a medical complication or event?

Part 2, Paragraph 8: "Visitors are prohibited from introducing or causing to be introduced any object, matter or substance of any kind, whether liquid, solid or medicinal, orally or in any other manner to the ward."

Withholding oral sustenance when an individual is capable of accepting it is abuse and a deliberate act of omission under Florida Statute 415.102.

Part 2, Paragraph 13: "Visitors may be restricted from the facility if such visitors violate these visitation rules and conditions in any manner."

Does this language mean that Terri's immediate family can be barred from seeing her at the instructions of her husband/guardian at any time?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: deathgrip; felos; georgefelos; injustice; schiavo; schindler; terrischiavo; terrischindler; terrisfight; unmercifulkilling
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To: Republic; amdgmary; editor-surveyor
I truly believe this is a spiritual battle-of immense proportions and consequence.

So do I. I used to think it was mostly about having Michael's initial crime go undisclosed. Now I believe it is that PLUS precedent-setting so as to faster dispatch all those in God's waiting room (FL), not having to worry about silly things like hydration and assisted feeding or assisted anything. (Don't get sick, but if you do, stay home. Esp. if you live in FL and aren't on good terms with the person who will be making med. decisions concerning you,\.)

On the surface it looks like there's a hidden network of people all working to promote...death. (Please look up my Scripture verse in my tagline.) So, anyway, Michael hopes he'll be richly rewarded by these snakes, that is, if he isn't double-crossed.

Apparently, Bushnell is very anxious to have this amended order approved by the court

Check!

Please keep praying!

61 posted on 01/19/2004 9:50:38 PM PST by attagirl (Proverbs 8:36 explains it all)
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To: editor-surveyor
Bump!
62 posted on 01/20/2004 2:44:37 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: cyn
Unreal!!
63 posted on 01/20/2004 2:45:05 AM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: editor-surveyor
Thank you for the ping, ES! It is SO obvious what this is about!

Murder the innocents, the lame, the crippled, the handicapped! Get rid of the "undesirables!"

God, PLEASE help Terri's Family overcome this evil!

64 posted on 01/20/2004 2:59:35 AM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: Pegita; cyn
Terri dwells in the secret place of the Most High
She abides under the shadow of the Almighty.

She will say of the Lord, "He is my refuge and my fortress;
My God, in Him I will trust."

Surely He shall deliver her from the snare of the fowler
And from the perilous pestilence.
He shall cover her with His feathers,
And under His wings she will take refuge;

His truth shall be her shield and buckler.
She will not be afraid of the terror by night,
Nor of the arrow that flies by day,
Nor of the pestilence that walks in darkness,
Nor of the destruction that lays waste at noonday.

A thousand may fall at her side,
And ten thousand at her right hand;

BUT IT SHALL NOT COME NEAR HER

Only with her eyes will she look,
AND SEE THE REWARD OF THE WICKED.

Because she has made the Lord, who is her refuge,
Even the Most High, her dwelling place,
NO EVIL WILL BEFALL HER,
Nor shall any plague come near her dwelling;

FOR HE SHALL GIVE HIS ANGELS CHARGE OVER HER,
To keep her in all her ways.

In their hands they shall bear her up,
Lest she dash her foot against a stone.

She shall tread upon the lion and the cobra,
The young lion and the serpent she shall trample underfoot.

Because she has set her love upon You,
therefore You will deliver her;

You will set her on high, because she has known Your Name.

SHE WILL CALL UPON YOU, AND YOU WILL ANSWER HER;

YOU WILL BE WITH HER IN TROUBLE;

YOU WILL DELIVER HER AND HONOR HER.

WITH LONG LIFE YOU WILL SATISFY HER,
AND SHOW HER YOUR SALVATION.

Psalm 91, NKJ

Oh Most High God and Savior Jesus Christ, all praise is Yours. Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah.

We come together as one oh God and speak Your Word with the authority given us as Your children and heirs. We speak it out loud to send forth our faith and to the ears of the enemy. It shall not return void. All glory is Your our precious Lord.

Amen and amen.

65 posted on 01/20/2004 5:31:58 AM PST by PrepareToLeave
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To: PrepareToLeave
Heavenly Father, we return to give You thanks for this family of believers. We knit our hearts as one for this mother's child, and praise You for Your loving kindness to her these many years. We look to You for that one small stone that will slay this giant ... the merchants of death. To You be all glory, now and forevermore, Amen ...
66 posted on 01/20/2004 5:42:25 AM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Budge; PrepareToLeave
Hi, Budge. Yes, isn't it! The evil in this thing continually exceeds what I think possible -- which is a sobering lesson. I thank God for His promises, as preparetoleave posted, and for the strength He gives us; this would otherwise be overwhelming.
67 posted on 01/20/2004 11:32:26 AM PST by cyn (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Republic; gww1210
"I truly believe this is a spiritual battle-of immense proportions and consequence."

The knife is being twisted. . .

Here's a wild "why not?" thought -- does Radio FR (now renamed RIGHTALK RADIO) have investigative reporters yet?

68 posted on 01/20/2004 11:38:39 AM PST by cyn (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: tutstar
Dr. Cranford’s published definition of the Persistent Vegetative State differs substantially from Florida law. Court transcripts show that Judge George Greer used Dr. Cranford’s definition in assessing Terri, rather than Florida’s stricter definition.


Conclusion 1 - 3 There is no definitive neurological test for PVS.
Conclusion 1 - 4 There is no neurological test which will determine PVS patient consciousness.
Conclusion 1 - 5 In relation to the problem of PVS patient consciousness, medical practice has assumed that Consciousness IN = Consciousness B. Furthermore it has used the ‘reflex test’ as the criterion for establishing Consciousness B.
In recovery, if Terri improves, PVS is invalidated
Karen Quinlan’s case was the first case involving PVS to come before the US courts. Her breathing had been sustained by a respirator and the court application was for permission to remove the respirator. This the court permitted. However, on the removal of the respirator, Karen Quinlan did not die but continued to breath, unaided. She survived for a further 10 years in a PVS. She died in 1985 of acute pneumonia. Antibiotics had not been given to treat the pneumonia.
69 posted on 01/20/2004 6:45:30 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: Robert Drobot
What kind of national campaign is taking place through the 'volunteer' Schindler Foundation media people ( or is it person ) to rally an outcry against this latest example of inhuman violence against Terri Schindler-Schiavo?

Keep after Jim King to bring SB 692 to committee and McCabe to investigatebrutality, DV, abuse, neglect, exploitation.
cc to the GOV
70 posted on 01/20/2004 6:51:28 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: Robert Drobot
Can Jeb Bush visit Terri? Michael Schiavo wouldn't want that, now would he?
71 posted on 01/21/2004 3:21:49 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Pegita
We look to You for that one small stone that will slay this giant ... the merchants of death.

I especially like that part.

72 posted on 01/21/2004 3:25:54 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: cyn; floriduh voter; sweetliberty
hey, when you print a sheet of these at half size onto sticky backed paper, with a good quality printer, they make pretty good postage stamp companions!


73 posted on 01/21/2004 9:31:53 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Jeb's probably on Michael's list, but not the one at the hospital.
74 posted on 01/22/2004 2:59:55 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: amdgmary
sickening.
75 posted on 01/23/2004 3:29:06 PM PST by Terriergal ("arise...kill...eat." Acts 10:13)
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To: CindyDawg
1. To kill her more efficiently...

2. so no one can screw up his case with real facts.
76 posted on 01/23/2004 3:29:45 PM PST by Terriergal ("arise...kill...eat." Acts 10:13)
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To: amdgmary; phenn; FL_engineer
Do we have an update on when this will be heard?

Do I understand correctly that if this petition is granted, it will take effect immediately?

If this is granted, what immediate recourse does Terri's family have to keep from being shut out completely?

In fact, Terri's family was already shut out completely when she was admitted for rehydration in October -- they had no idea how she was, what was being done. And we know that Michael and Felos behaved despicably at that time -- the family was allowed in to visit only AFTER Terri had been released -- but the family had no idea of that! nor did they know where or how Terri was for HOURS after that!

We know Terri's admission for rehydration was delayed for hours even after Gov. Bush signed 'Terri's bill' that was passed by the majority of the FL house and senate. But at least did the EMT's start an IV immediately in Terri? Or not?

Prayers continue for Terri & her family & her angels.

77 posted on 01/26/2004 3:53:49 AM PST by cyn (www.terrisfight.org)
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...thinking of you, Terri, and keeping you in my prayers, as so very many are!
78 posted on 01/27/2004 12:07:07 AM PST by cyn (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: PrepareToLeave
smiling & agreeing with you as I reread your post here! thanks again!
79 posted on 01/27/2004 12:11:14 AM PST by cyn (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Pegita
Amen!

80 posted on 01/27/2004 12:11:56 AM PST by cyn (www.terrisfight.org)
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