Hill Cool to Bush Immigration Plan

Washington Post ^ | 1/11/04 | Helen Dewar

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

President Bush's proposal to give temporary legal status to millions of undocumented immigrants is running into stiff resistance from both left and right on Capitol Hill and stands little chance of enactment this year, according to supporters and opponents. While this assessment is based on early responses, with the lobbying effort barely begun, some lawmakers say the measure's only chance of passage this year would require an all-out push by the president, and even that might not be enough.

[Hugin]

stands little chance of enactment this year

Yes, they will wait until they are safetly re-elected, then they will screw us.

[Orangedog]

Do you suppose that President Bush knew that he was proposing something he wnated to be discussed, discected and inspected by Congress? He is not King, or Dictator, so I suppose he put it out there for a debate. No?

I would have believed the 'put it out for discussion so Congress (or the Supreme Court) can spike it' strategy before the campaign finance reform fiasco. Karl Rove is overstaying his welcome.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

In a perfect world, I wouldn't be forced to read post after blathering, empty-headed post from (*kaff*kaff*) "lifelong conservatives" referring to our principled anti-abortion, pro-tax cut, pro-defense Republican president as a "socialist," "a "liberal" or a "treasonous anti-conservative war criminal," right here on an ostensibly conservative message board, either. Your point being what, precisely...?

[Magno]

I hope you are right. I have not seen the polls for weeks. Let's see what happens next week. Many people are not happy.

[Wild Irish Rogue]

" In a perfect world, of course: the posting of this story would mean that all the online nellies, yellowbellies and faux "conservatives" all darting about on these boards and whinnying to the effect that "Bush is a war criminal from HELL!" and suchlike would finally just settle the @#$% down, for a moment or two; take a deep, communal breath; go to their respective Happy Places, within themselves; and cease embarrassing themselves (and this board) with their pop-eyed hysterics. "

That's a classic. Thanks.

[Rome2000]

I have no idea why Bush is doing this.

Something about securing a GOP majority in the House and Senate for the next 50 years.

It's a good idea

[Zipporah]

Kind of reminds me of the good old days of gridlock..Yep .. gridlock is a good thing..

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

"Hill cool" Well of course they would be its their voting base that G.W.B. is giving a free ride to they aren't gonna raise heck about that !

[jpsb]

We could be looking at another 94. Bush has stepped into it big time, I've never seen the conservative base of the GOP this pissed off. They are pissed and this (amnasty to illegals) is the straw that broke them.

[Digger]

Please help me understand this. Leaders are suppose to lead. So should a leader put forth this crapola with the anticipation that another enity (Congress)will scrub it - - or does a leader put forth a program that protects & enhances Americans that can pass Congress? This proposal is not worth a 30 second thought. These trial balloons were a benchmark of the Klintoons. Why should this Cowboy incorporate their playbook? I say send all in Washington on the next 1 way voyage to Mars.

[jpsb]

[Something about securing a GOP majority in the House and Senate for the next 50 years.]

Good? For what? The elites are the only ones this is good for. Screw them and thier one party system.

[Penny]

<"In a perfect world, I wouldn't be forced to read post after blathering, empty-headed post from (*kaff*kaff*) "lifelong conservatives" referring to our principled anti-abortion, pro-tax cut, pro-defense Republican president as a "socialist," "a "liberal" or a "treasonous anti-conservative war criminal," right here on an ostensibly conservative message board, either. Your point being what, precisely...?">

Gee whiz. I didn't know you were forced to read anyone's post--but my point is not obtuse. We can be civil in our disagreement of others' viewpoints.

"Ostensibly" conservative? That you find opinions on this issue in stark contrast to your own does not lessen the reality that this is a conservative message board, one that ALLOWS a diverse spectrum of opinion. Good night.

[sonofatpatcher2]

Re: Hill Cool to Bush Immigration Plan

Gad! I was hoping this was Hillary's response to W's saying she should leave the country for good...

[Digger]

Please help me understand this. Leaders are suppose to lead. So should a leader put forth this crapola with the anticipation that another enity (Congress)will scrub it - - or does a leader put forth a program that protects & enhances Americans that can pass Congress? This proposal is not worth a 30 second thought. These trial balloons were a benchmark of the Klintoons. Why should this Cowboy incorporate their playbook? I say send all in Washington on the next 1 way voyage to Mars.

[jpsb]

hey kent are their any democratic issues that Rove and Bush haven't stolen yet?

[Orangedog]

Bush has stepped into it big time, I've never seen the conservative base of the GOP this pissed off. They are pissed and this (amnasty to illegals) is the straw that broke them.

The last straw would be if he signs the extension to the assault weapons ban this year, as he has said he would. If there is anything that would piss off enough of the NRA vote to stay home instead of going to the polls and swing the election, that would. Someone needs to show Karl Rove the vote of the 2000 elections in Florida again before he advises GWB to keep ignoring concerns of the base vote.

[jpsb]

[jpsb]

re the above cartoon credit to sweetliberty.

[CyberAnt]

Bingo! A person with a working brain .. how unique!

[Kevin Curry]

"For I was a stranger and you welcomed me." (Matthew o25:35)

"Well, Mr. Ortiz, under the law I should find you guilty of breaking and entering the home of Mr. Jihad. The evidence well establishes the crime beyond a reasonable doubt. You certainly don't dispute it. But your testimony about how rudely Mr. Jihad treated you upon finding you hiding in his basement was most disturbing. Instead of making up a room for you and giving you the keys to his SUV and free access to his refrigerator, he angrily--ANGRILY--told you at the point of gun to 'freeze" and he called the police to arrest you and remove you from his home.

"That evidence, when examined in the light of the scripture from Matthew that you so eloquently recited to the court gives the incident a decidely different character. I am not persuaded by Mr. Jihad's lame excuses, particularly his assertion that his spare bedroom was being held for a stranger who had come to his door and asked for and received permission to stay overnight. You were already in the home; the stranger had not yet arrived. Mr. Jihad ought to have given you the room.

"Mr. Jihad, for the crime of unchristian behavior toward a burglar, this First Imperial Court, in the name of Caesar, sentences you to have the letter 'U' for 'unchristian' branded with a hot iron on your forehead. Shame on you, Mr. Jihad, shame on you!"