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Fate of military arms part of larger gun issues
The Washington Times (AP) ^
| Dec 1, 2003
| Tom Stuckey
Posted on 12/02/2003 6:29:27 AM PST by neverdem
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:40:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Maryland; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; guncontrol; gunprohibition
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To: neverdem
If I have a human intruder in my house, I'd want a gun designed to kill humans, not deer.
To: Question_Assumptions
"If I have a human intruder in my house, I'd want a gun designed to kill humans, not deer."
Very good, Question! I love that quote.
When a anti-gun person might say to me "Too many people are being killed out there, so many people have died", my standard response is "Well, there are alot of bad people out there that just need killing!" That shuts them up fast, as they don't know what to say to that statement, as its soooo completely out of tune to their view of society.
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posted on
12/02/2003 8:54:27 AM PST
by
Lockbar
To: NYFriend
Conspiracy Guy likes his Browning A-Bolt 270 with Composite Stock and Leupold 3X10 50mm obj Gold Ring Scope. He also likes his Ruger P-95 in 9mm sidearm. In this picture Conspiracy Guy is entering Area 51 to free Elvis. After he was free Elvis said, "Thank you very much".
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posted on
12/02/2003 9:03:52 AM PST
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Ignorance can be corrected with knowledge. Stupid is permanent.)
To: demlosers
"Another government Critter who doesn't know what the 2nd Amendment is about, or is this guy being disingenuous?"What, a Dimocrat telling lies?
Tell me it ain't so!
</sarcasm>
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posted on
12/02/2003 9:14:46 AM PST
by
Redbob
To: neverdem
Since when is an Uzi a "long gun"?
To: NY.SS-Bar9
I guess you've never had a weapon not work when it was supposed to.
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posted on
12/02/2003 9:50:12 AM PST
by
NYFriend
To: neverdem
Does this mean that I can buy one of the thousands of Browning M2s when they start replacing them in '05?
To: neverdem
They were designed to kill COYOTES and GROUNDHOGS...then our military bean-counting eggheads decided to have Colt and the Mattell Toy Company pop them out to arm reluctant draftees with (so they could stay high, and play with pleasant to fire ray-guns)...now they're a LOT improved....but all I'm allowed to own is an inaccurate Mini-14 to protect my children, livestock, dogs...from packs of Coyotes, the occasional large Bobcat, Cougar, Bear, multiple predators of the 2-legged kind, strung-out on mind-altering speed and alcohol.....because the AR is BLACK...looks cool...and has the dreaded, lethality-increasing Pistol Grip. Genius ! The "Law" is a beautiful thing...when the Lawyers run the goverment...isn't it.
S'cuse me...I have to throw up now. Guard the Flag until I get back.
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:07:24 AM PST
by
PoorMuttly
(DO, or DO NOT. There is no TRY - Yoda)
To: Sharpshot613
Since when is an Uzi a "long gun"? Uzi may make some pistols, but the typical Uzi is a pistol caliber firearm with a shoulder stock that is fired like a rifle. Even with a short (<16") barrel, it (along with other submachine guns)may be considered as a long gun.
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posted on
12/02/2003 10:11:34 AM PST
by
Atlas Sneezed
(Police officials view armed citizens like teachers union bosses view homeschoolers.)
"We're not trying to infringe on the Second Amendment," Mr. Garagiola said.
Mr Garagiola, infringing on the Second Amendment is precisely what you are doing. The Second Amendment isn't about hunting and contains no definition of "arms".
To: NYFriend
I guess you have a different POV than I do.
My definition of "better" is more about accuracy.
If "better" means "works after being abused" - may I suggest an AK-style variant.
To each his own.
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posted on
12/02/2003 11:45:14 AM PST
by
NY.SS-Bar9
(BOYCOTT HALLMARK)
To: Fee
And new for 2004 is the M1A SOCOM 16! 7.62X51 (.308) semi-auto M14!!! 16" bbl and Springfield Armory proprietary muzzle brake. I am already saving for mine. Warned the wife and everything. I have a semi CAR-15 and a Ruger mini-14 with factory folding stock. This will blow them both from the surf. My ROBAR tuned M1A is set up for extreme long range with a range finding scope and match ammo, so this will total out the collection of every tool for a special task.....
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posted on
12/02/2003 12:00:59 PM PST
by
ExSoldier
(When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
To: neverdem
MD, MA and CA are the Axis of EVIL.
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posted on
12/02/2003 12:02:01 PM PST
by
ExSoldier
(When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
To: debaryfl
"They are especially deadly and are designed for inflicting lethal harm on a large number of people at once,"Which is why only the police should have them and not civilians.
Such is the definition of POLICE STATE
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posted on
12/02/2003 12:04:11 PM PST
by
ExSoldier
(When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
To: NYFriend
"I guess you've never had a weapon not work when it was supposed to."What's the very worst sound in the world? According to the late Peter Hathaway Capstick, world renowned Big Game Hunter, as in last of the Great White (Bwana!) Hunters; it's hearing a "click" when you expected to hear a "boom." Now there stood a "Man among MEN!"
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posted on
12/02/2003 12:10:06 PM PST
by
ExSoldier
(When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
To: laotzu
The Ruger Mini-14 is a far superior weapon to the Mattel M-16.It is obvious to anyone that knows a damn thing about the subject. Others guess wrong.
Well, heck. I wouldn't give you a dime for either one of them, then. Ruger makes nice boltguns and revolvers, but I've never had much use for any of their semi-auto rifles, with the exception of the 10/22.
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posted on
12/02/2003 12:11:55 PM PST
by
Oberon
(What does it take to make government shrink?)
To: Oberon
"with the exception of the 10/22" My favorite. What a great plinking gun.
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posted on
12/02/2003 12:21:09 PM PST
by
laotzu
To: NY.SS-Bar9
Actually, I'll agree with you. I was disapointed with the accuracy of the Ruger as well. I don't know what the twist rate is for the Mini-14, but I know the M16A1 and M16A2's had different twist rates to better match different ammunition (M109 v. older M193 ???). I don't know which ammo I ran through the Mini-14 or whether it mattered.
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posted on
12/02/2003 12:48:39 PM PST
by
NYFriend
To: laotzu
My favorite. What a great plinking gun. I'll have to agree with you there.
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posted on
12/02/2003 12:53:54 PM PST
by
Oberon
(What does it take to make government shrink?)
To: neverdem
Fate of military arms part of larger gun issues Count on the Washington "Bleep" to get it wrong. No respectable military in the world uses "semi-automatic assault weapons", they use for real assault rifles, which are select fire, not semi auto.
Then again, the second amendment isn't about protecting duck hunters. Keeping and bearing select fire assault rifles, as used by the Army, is just the sort of thing intended to be protected by the Second Amendment.
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posted on
12/02/2003 1:06:41 PM PST
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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