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Streisand Blames Reagan for Her Son's AIDS
NewsMax ^ | 11/17/03 | Limbacher

Posted on 11/17/2003 10:31:44 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: Jim Noble
As far as I'm concerned, Streisand is psychotic. The cure is simple. She needs har ass whipped until her nose bleeds. It will take three doses of it to interfere with her private internal world and get her attention reoriented toward reality.
101 posted on 11/17/2003 4:13:12 PM PST by RLK
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Yet another alert for THE POSTING RULES!

Rule 1, official:
"Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts."

Rule 2, unofficial:
Denigrating, insulting, or misrepresenting homosexuals, however, is always acceptable.

{/sarcasm OFF}

To add specific comments: Yes, Jason Gould is Streisand's son from her marriage to Elliott Gould, who's shown with his son in the earlier photo.

And, no, I don't endorse Streisand's shrill ignorance about AIDS, governmental action (or inaction), and Reagan's response -- but neither is it appropriate to condemn those who are ill from this disease. Or from having the viral precursor to it, as Jason Gould does (and not AIDS). Does everyone who touches his or her nose after being out touching surfaces in public deserve to be condemned for having the influenza virus? Criticized for stupidity, yes. That's not the same issue.

102 posted on 11/17/2003 4:15:59 PM PST by Greybird ("War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce)
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To: RLK
As far as I'm concerned, Streisand is psychotic

Could be.

But this Reagan-AIDS fixation is not confined to her. It used to be very popular.

Since it was so at variance with the facts, I was wondering if you had any thought about why (I mean, why him).

103 posted on 11/17/2003 4:27:57 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: cajungirl
David Horowitz' book "Radical Son" explains this point to be true.

There were a few gay doctors that found their patients in the same bathhouses. They tried to point this out to the press but were slammed for their efforts.

The libs had an agenda to follow, they don't care for the facts or truth.

104 posted on 11/17/2003 5:06:19 PM PST by perfect stranger (No tagline today. Tagline yesterday, tagline tomorrow, but no tagline today.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Streisand Blames Reagan for Her Son's AIDS"

Which Reagan??

105 posted on 11/17/2003 5:07:52 PM PST by tracer
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Streisand Blames Reagan for Her Son's AIDS"

Which Reagan??

106 posted on 11/17/2003 5:10:41 PM PST by tracer
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Grow the hell up for a change, Bubs
107 posted on 11/17/2003 5:15:18 PM PST by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: cajungirl
They STILL don't want their bath houses shut down.
108 posted on 11/17/2003 5:50:05 PM PST by altura
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To: cajungirl
Proposed Bathhouse Reopening Rekindles Gay Community Debate
New generation of gay men not affected by damage done by AIDS in the '80s, some say
By Curtis Pond

The Community United for Gay Sexual Privacy sparked emotional feelings about safe-sex practices when two of its members submitted an initiative to San Francisco City Hall last week that if passed on November's ballot, would reopen San Francisco's gay bathhouses.

"I worry that if the bath houses were reopened, it would effect those with no memories of the 1980s. There are adults around today who weren't around 20 years ago when AIDS was first reported."
--Dr. Jay Schlumpberger of the Palo Alto Medical Foundation
At the core of the debate are the views of a new generation of gay people who feel that the City's codes against bathhouses are from another era.

The group has said that it wants to create more places for gay men to have safe sex, and rewrite the rules that make bathhouses illegal.

San Francisco's gay bathhouses were closed by the City's Department of Public Health in 1984 when it was discovered that the bath house's penchant for multiple-partner sex was helping to spread HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

During that time, the gay community became divided as people argued about the role the bathhouses played in sexual freedom.

On one side were those who refused to abandon the gains that were made during the gay liberation movement in the 1970s. The other side of the debate was filled with voices who had simply grown tired of losing loved ones to a silent killer.

But now, with the emergence of powerful drugs that stunt the growth of HIV, AIDS related deaths have been on the decline since the early 1990s.

According to the Center for Disease Control, HIV infection dropped from 8th to 14th in 1997 among leading causes of death in the U.S. However, the risk of AIDS has not deteriorated.

"There is an increase in the number of HIV cases among younger people in the U.S." said Dr. Jay Schlumpberger of the Palo Alto Medical Foundation.

"I worry that if the bath houses were reopened, it would effect those with no memories of the 1980s. There are adults around today who weren't around 20 years ago when AIDS was first reported," he said.

Schlumpberger said that the rate of new HIV infections a year is around 40,000.

Michael Ritter, a coordinator for prevention programs at San Francisco State University, said there are young people who may feel invulnerable to HIV, but attitudes of invulnerability have been around since AIDS was first discovered.

"There's been this it-can't-happen-to-me feeling all along," he said. "The most you can do is provide adequate education and devices to protect them, whether it's in a bathhouse or a private room."

Ritter added that there wasn't much difference in sex clubs and bathhouses, just a door that people can close for privacy. Although the scare factor of AIDS has diminished over the past few years, most gay men are still using condoms regularly, said Albert Angelo, a health educator at SF State.

"Most high-risk behavior is still protected safely," he said, "but younger people seem to have less fear. They weren't around when everyone was dying."

Angelo said the main issue in the debate over bath houses is whether or not private rooms encourage unsafe sex.

"Adults can have unsafe sex anywhere," he said. "Barebacking (sex without condoms) is now a huge underground thing. Having private rooms doesn't mean that this type of thing will happen."

If the initiative is approved by the Department of Elections, the group will need 10,200 signatures to put it on the ballot.


109 posted on 11/17/2003 5:54:23 PM PST by doug from upland (Why aren't the Clintons living out their remaining years on Alcatraz?)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
So somehow it's Reagans fault that she drove her son into homosexuality?
111 posted on 11/17/2003 6:07:28 PM PST by Bullish
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
First of all, I think it is horrible when anyone gets this dreaded disease no matter how they contract it. Having said that, to blame someone else for it, is ludicrous, and just shows that Babs has been blinded with hatred for republicans. In fact, she is apt to commit a hate crime anytime now.
112 posted on 11/17/2003 6:28:01 PM PST by ladyinred (Talk about a revolution, look at California!!! We dumped Davis!!!)
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To: capt. norm
Saw a cover of one of the tabloids last week that was labelled "Actresses Without Make-up" or something to that effect. The most scary picture on it was one of B.S. I'm talking serious, Boris Karloff scary.

And that is why you have me around. To scan covers and post them for all to see.


113 posted on 11/17/2003 6:29:50 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I have a plan. I need a dead monkey, empty liquor bottles and a vacuum cleaner.)
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To: Semper Paratus
Ha Ha ha Ha ha chuckle Ha HA ha, that WAS funny
114 posted on 11/17/2003 6:37:57 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: ladyinred
she is apt to commit a hate crime anytime now.

What has she done here?

115 posted on 11/17/2003 6:38:01 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Yo! bablebrain, Maybe it is because your offspring scr&wed the wrong party, GO CRAWL BACK UNDER THE ROCK YOU AND YOUR "offspring" came from....

Not you TW

116 posted on 11/17/2003 6:38:03 PM PST by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
She's got a link on her site to Frank Rich's smear piece about Reagan and AIDS. Probably a coincidence.
117 posted on 11/17/2003 6:39:42 PM PST by unsycophant
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To: Hildy
Nicely said!
118 posted on 11/17/2003 6:42:40 PM PST by hope
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To: randog
>i?Well, they didn't call Ronnie "Ol' Cornhole" for nuthin'.......

Just had to pipe that in didn't ya? :^)

119 posted on 11/17/2003 6:47:57 PM PST by Bullish
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To: martin_fierro
Unless he contracted AIDS through an innocent blood transfusion, I have little sympathy for this clown.

I do. With those parents, who wouldn't turn out screwy?

120 posted on 11/17/2003 6:48:07 PM PST by Tall_Texan ("Is Rush a Hypocrite?" http://righteverytime2.blogspot.com)
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