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FOX News Channel's JFK: Case Not Closed
FOXnews ^ | Tuesday, October 28, 2003 | foxmarketwire.com

Posted on 11/15/2003 3:04:13 PM PST by Destro

JFK: Case Not Closed

Tuesday, October 28, 2003

On Sunday, Nov. 16, FOX News Channel will present a one-hour special commemorating the 40th anniversary of President Kennedy's assassination.

Join Greta Van Susteren for FOX News Channel's anniversary special — JFK: Case Not Closed .

One week after President John F. Kennedy (search) was assassinated, a nation-wide poll revealed that 62% of Americans believed a conspiracy was involved. And now, 40 years later? What do we believe?

A recent FOX News poll found that many Americans today do not believe Lee Harvey Oswald (search) was a lone gunman. And there may be some evidence to prove it...

President Kennedy's assassination may have turned Dealey Plaza (search) into the world's most famous crime scene, but in 1963 — crime scene investigation was not a sophisticated forensic science.

Cops made some surprising mistakes — mistakes that led to confusion for the investigators and fodder for conspiracy theorists.

Our special will examine the forensic evidence, the autopsy and the single bullet theory, including accounts from the people who were there.

You'll watch footage never before seen on TV and hear eyewitness testimony from people who've never spoken about it until now...

It's a one-hour special on American history that you don't want to miss... only on FOX News Channel.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; jfk
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To: grizzfan
Thanks for the ping.
81 posted on 11/16/2003 4:38:37 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Destro
He fired bad CIA officials too-One which happened to have a brother as mayor of Dallas.

He also fired a promotable Major General (Walker) in April of '61 who lived in Dallas. Walker died about 10 years ago and I believe he took some important secrets to his grave.

82 posted on 11/16/2003 4:43:47 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: The Mayor
JFK conspiracy claims are more resiliant that Dracula: they always come back.

For me this was settled by Josiah Thompson's Six Seconds in Dallas

What Billy Lovelady actually said was the the shirt he was wearing when the FBI took the comparison photographs (the red/white striped one) was NOT the shirt he was wearing in the Depository doorway. He changed his shirt! This is the reason the shirt in the doorway does not match.

In any case, comparison of the shape of the ears, jaw, and hairline of the man in the doorway says "Lovelady" not "Oswald".

83 posted on 11/16/2003 5:27:25 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (You realize, of course, this means war?" B Bunny)
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To: The Mayor
Lovelady and his co-workers said he was the one that was in that doorway. Sorry, I'll believe him and his friends before I would believe some far fetched theory.
84 posted on 11/16/2003 6:30:25 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: ScoochDude
So what? Palm prints aren't on file and it took a while to process the rifle. The wood was too grainy to show any other print.
85 posted on 11/16/2003 6:33:42 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Destro
The Zapruder film was color, as were the pics in Life magazine, 10/2/64. I heard that Life will be reprinting this issue. The one I have, looking at it now, has 4 color frames on the cover.

1. Pres. Kennedy has his hands up near throat area, Jackie is beginning to assist, John Connally is beginning to turn around. A lamppost is visible opposite the hood of the car.

2. The President leans forward, Jackie reaching toward him, John Connally more turned around toward the President. Looks like Connally is speaking to the Pres.

3. Pres. Kennedy's hands are still up to throat, elbows bent as in the two previous frames, with a pained expression; Jackie moving closer, Connally more turned toward the President. The lampost is opposite Connally's jumpseat

4. The President seems to have pitched a bit toward Jackie, head down, hands still at throat, expression visible on his face, Jackie has moved closer, Connally appears to be so turned in his seat that he appears to be facing Pres. Kennedy. Lamppost is just behind JFK by this point. Nellie Connally is visible looking toward the President.

There are eight color pictures within the issue.

1. The first is described as being taken as the car passed "in front of the brick building where the assassin was taking aim." JFK smiling and waving. Car approaching Stemmons Freeway sign.

2. JFK brings both fists up by his throat, elbows outward. Connolly is looking straight ahead. Spectators, motorcycle officer and Jackie show no response to shooting yet. The caption says "President Kennedy clutched his hands to his throat. The commission determined that a bullet had entered the back of his neck and ripped through the lower front portion of his throat. They believe the wound would not necessarily have been lethal."

3. JFK's arms still at throat, Jackie, expressionless, turned generally toward JFK, Connally turned more than sideways in his seat to the right speaking back to JFK. Caption: "As Mrs. Kennedy reached to help her husband, Connally twisted around. He told the commission he heard a shot and turned to see if Kennedy was all right. It is still not absolutely clear which bullet hit the governor. Though he believes it was another bullet--the second fired by Oswald--the commission concluded that it probably was this same one that had passed through the President's throat." My observation: if JFK was hit in the back, and the bullet exited his throat causing him to put fists to throat, the bullet would have had to stop in mid-air to wait for Connally to totally turn around in his seat, speak to JFK, then turn all the way back toward the front. While JFK is slumped in pic 5, Connally is still alertly looking up out of the car to the right.

4. JFK, arms still up, leaning forward, Connally appears to be looking directly at JFK with Jackie looking slightly in Connally's direction. Nellie looking toward front--male in front passenger seat appears to be turned toward Nellie. Caption: Both Kennedy and Connally began to slump. A Secret Service agent sitting beside the driver turned to look back while onlookers, unaware that anything was amiss, applauded. My comment: Connally is speaking to JFK, not slumping, and turns back around in the next frame to look out the window.

5. Jackie leaning in toward JFK's face, JFK's chin lowered, leaning toward Jackie, Connally looking out to his right as though searching, Nellie leaning toward his left ear. Caption: "The President's head fell forward into Mrs. Kennedy's arms just before the assassin fired again.

6. Frame 6 does show impact with Kennedy's head, with spray moving upward. This frame is more blurry than the others, but you can make out Jackie with arms wrapped around the President's neck, her white gloves visible around his neck. The funny thing is that JFK's head is up, you can see the shadow under his chin, his right ear, the cowlick area of his head and the outline of his face. She is leaning in very close to him toward the front of his face. Connolly's hairline and forehead are visible and he's looking more toward the front. Caption: "The direction from which shots came was established by this picture taken at instant bullet struck the rear of the President's head and, passing through, caused the front part of his skull to explode forward." My comment: The only problem with that is published pictures of the dead President lying on his back with his eyes open show no damage from the front. Witnesses in Parkland hospital said his face was undamaged.

7. There is obvious crowd reaction. Jackie beginning to turn toward the back of the vehicle. Secret Service agent Clint Hill visible with hand on back of trunk. The President has collapsed to his left toward Jackie. There is a big white spot in the back of JFK's head, surrounded by hair. Nothing is visible in the Connallys' seat except yellow roses.

8. Jackie out on back of trunk, Secret Service agent Hill is hoisting himself up to the back of the car, left foot on bumper, right foot on pavement. JFK slumped to his left but still visible. The right side of his head, right ear and right shoulder are visible. Zapruder's photography is fairly clear through the first shot to JFK's throat. There is quite a lot of action between the first shot where JFK puts his fists to his throat (pic 2) and the impact shot (pic 6). Connally goes from riding normally to turning around to speak to the President, to turning back forward and looking up and out of his right window area. At the time of 2nd apparent impact with JFK (pic 6)the pictures become blurrier, Connolly is definitely sitting forward with his back to the Pres.

86 posted on 11/16/2003 6:14:30 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: ntnychik; Shooter 2.5; The Mayor
I can't help but but in for a moment and if I am wrong,please advise.The original route was changed at the last minute.The original route was not to pass the depository.If this is indeed the case then it must have been more than one person involved,hence,the conspiracy theory.There is no doubt in my mind that LHO was there and that he did in fact fire his weapon,I also believe others were involved,like many others.
87 posted on 11/16/2003 6:37:02 PM PST by eastforker (Money is the key to justice,just ask any lawyer.)
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To: eastforker
If you ever stood in Dealy Plaza, not too many people stand in the middle where the road intersects the two grassy areas. It made more sense to skirt the streets that had the buildings next to it. It was a work day.

Why offer a view for only a few people who would have to leave their buildings to venture out to a grassy area?


88 posted on 11/16/2003 7:04:05 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Thats my point shooter.If the route was changed at the last minute,how would LHO have known about in time to be able to set up the hit?From my understanding and correct me if I am wrong,LHO went to work at the depository weeks before so he could set up this hit.Again,please correct me if I am misinformed.
89 posted on 11/16/2003 7:10:20 PM PST by eastforker (Money is the key to justice,just ask any lawyer.)
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To: Howlin
If he ran today, he'd be smeared by the press and the Dems as a conservative.

You're not kidding. If he ran today, after looking at some of his positions he'd be smeared by most Republicans for being too conservative as well.

90 posted on 11/16/2003 7:12:20 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Destro
Yes, after the Bay of Pigs, JFK fired and publicly humiliated CIA director Allen Dulles and said that he would destory the CIA and "scatter it to the four winds." He also fired Charles Cabell, Deputy Director of the CIA, who was the brother of Earle Cabell, Mayor of Dallas.

Strange, isn't it, that Dulles, a known enemy of JFK, became the most influential member of the Warren Commission?
91 posted on 11/16/2003 7:15:20 PM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: mlo
Then how did the motorcycle cop who was riding to the rear and left of JFK's car get sprayed with JFK's blood and brain matter? HUH?????

The cop just said on Greta's show AS HE HAS SAID FOR 35+++ years that he rode through a cloud of matter. He earlier said that afterwards, someone came up to him and said "What's that hanging from your lip?" It was part of JFK's brain.

How do you reconcile that fact with the scenario that there was no shot from the front????

You can't. It is physically and logically impossible. You won't even try to address these hard facts.
92 posted on 11/16/2003 7:22:23 PM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: DesertWalker
Yes, that is exactly what Jackie was doing. JFK's brain/skull had been blown backward and in her hysteia she wanted to get it to "save him." Anyone who claims that JSK was not shot from the front is a fool or a liar.
93 posted on 11/16/2003 7:28:41 PM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: GaryL
I read "Case Closed" and was insulted that Posner would think that I was such fool that I would buy for one minute any of his ridiculous and baseless assertions. I see that he found an easy mark in you.

NOTHING that Posner said holds water. How foolish can you be?????
94 posted on 11/16/2003 7:31:08 PM PST by Iwo Jima
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To: Destro
So why the hatred towards him by the conservatives? Is it the adultery thing?

Maybe it's because the liberals today use the part of Kennedy they like to remember him with.

Have you ever heard a liberal use this quote? "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country". This quote is all but forgotten today.

95 posted on 11/16/2003 7:41:41 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Iwo Jima
You seem to be quite informed.This is good.There is also a question of Jack Rubenstein,a small time gangster from Chicago.I understand,don't know if it is true,he got a visit from a California Republican politician while in jail after he killed LHO.I am sure you know who this was!Anyway,the fact that JR got inside to do the dirty deed is in itself quite interesting.As Danny Thomas would say"There's something rotten in Denmark"
96 posted on 11/16/2003 7:51:58 PM PST by eastforker (Money is the key to justice,just ask any lawyer.)
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To: Bernard Marx
One of the worst things he did was allow the building of the Berlin Wall. Nikita stated in his memoirs that he didn't expect that he'd get to finish building it - he thought JFK would erupt, demand that he cease and desist, and Nikita would get some kind of favorable concession somewhere in the world. JFK wasn't 100% evil, but he had some really nasty, commie-coddling advisors.
97 posted on 11/16/2003 7:55:29 PM PST by 185JHP ( PepsiOne for the men. Tab for the horses.)
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To: 185JHP
I'm no buff on this matter, but it is my own personal belief that we will find out exactly what happened someday. The answers will likely come from some classified Soviet archive, and Oswald's name will be on the pages along with anyone else who was inolved.
98 posted on 11/16/2003 8:00:05 PM PST by July 4th
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To: Iwo Jima
I read "Case Closed" and was insulted that Posner would think that I was such fool that I would buy for one minute any of his ridiculous and baseless assertions. I see that he found an easy mark in you.

NOTHING that Posner said holds water. How foolish can you be?????

THAT was a ridiculous and baseless assertion, with insults thrown in. Why not try debating on the facts?

99 posted on 11/16/2003 8:06:24 PM PST by mlo
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To: Destro
Missed the show.

Did anyone mention the new book by Barr McClellan, Blood, Money & Power: How L. B. J. Killed J. F. K.?

The reason JFK was assassinated has always been of less interest to the general public than whodunit and how, it would seem. Perhaps this book will tie some loose ends up.

100 posted on 11/16/2003 8:12:49 PM PST by logician2u
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