FOX News Channel's JFK: Case Not Closed

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[Destro]

JFK: Case Not Closed

Tuesday, October 28, 2003

On Sunday, Nov. 16, FOX News Channel will present a one-hour special commemorating the 40th anniversary of President Kennedy's assassination.

Join Greta Van Susteren for FOX News Channel's anniversary special — JFK: Case Not Closed .

One week after President John F. Kennedy (search) was assassinated, a nation-wide poll revealed that 62% of Americans believed a conspiracy was involved. And now, 40 years later? What do we believe?

A recent FOX News poll found that many Americans today do not believe Lee Harvey Oswald (search) was a lone gunman. And there may be some evidence to prove it...

President Kennedy's assassination may have turned Dealey Plaza (search) into the world's most famous crime scene, but in 1963 — crime scene investigation was not a sophisticated forensic science.

Cops made some surprising mistakes — mistakes that led to confusion for the investigators and fodder for conspiracy theorists.

Our special will examine the forensic evidence, the autopsy and the single bullet theory, including accounts from the people who were there.

You'll watch footage never before seen on TV and hear eyewitness testimony from people who've never spoken about it until now...

It's a one-hour special on American history that you don't want to miss... only on FOX News Channel.

[The Mayor]

Zapruder film

[Shooter 2.5]

That's exactly right. Small entrance, big exit.

[Shooter 2.5]

Check the film frame by frame. The initial movement was forward and to the left.

[The Mayor]

[joesnuffy]

Oswald didnt do it...Spector's magic bullet did it...

[sboyd]

No, he is leaned over holding his throat, but it is clear that when the "headshot" hits he goes back and to the left. The car is moving forward and it would have taken something to slam his body to the rear. It does not matter what you shoot, it will always fall or move in the direction of the exit wound. 1 bullet, 7 wounds = BS.

[The Mayor]

The Man In The Doorway

Compare these two images. The man in the doorway of the
school book depository (top) , and Oswald's photo
immediatly after his arrest (bottom).

This is a photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald taken shortly
after his arrest. Note the clear similarity in both
appearance and dress to the man in the schoolbook
depository doorway in the Altgen's photo.

The Warren Commission "identified" the individual as Billy
Lovelady, a fellow Book Depository employee. But while
Lovelady identifed the person in the Altgens' photo as
himself, he also stated that he'd worn a red and white
vertically striped shirt on the day of the assassination
The man in the doorway's shirt in not striped and is open
in front, exposing the tee shirt underneath.

In color films taken from another angle, the color of the
shirt worn by the man in the doorway was revealed to be
orange-brown. When Oswald was arrested, he was wearing the
identical shirt- an orange-brown tweed with missing buttons
and tee-shirt underneath.
Other films taken on November 22, 1963 revealed that
Lovelady was in fact wearing a red and blue plaid shirt.
Hence, the figure in the doorway is NOT Lovelady.
(Billy Lovelady died of a heart attack Jan 1979)

Compliments of RANCHO/POLITICS/JFK

[Shooter 2.5]

Wrong. Look at the film frame by frame. The initial movement is forward and to the left. It's only when both Kennedy and Jackie react together that JFK moves to the rear.

Are you saying a through shot is two wounds? Where do you get that idea?

[Shooter 2.5]

Then how come all the co-workers who were standing right next to him during the entire parade said it was Lovelady?

[sboyd]

The Warren Commission claims three shots. Connally was not hit just once nut he had several wounds. They are claiming the throat wound hit Connally also and came out his side at the hospital. Connally is still clearly not hit when JFK starts to hold his throat. The brain matter did not splatter all over Connally, but over the back of the car. Jackie did not puch JFK to the rear she is talking to him with her hand on his shoulder or arm. She did not jerk him to the rear, the bullet did. I am not saying there was not a "rear" shooter. I am saying that he was hit from a frontal shot in the head. Doctors at the autopsy and nurses said the back of the president's head was gone. We will never know who shot JFK, but technology may one day be able to figure out how many bullets hit Gov. Connally and JFK and the bystander near the bridge who was grazed by the "missing" shot.

[sboyd]

I have that special on tape. It is very professional. It is very convincing, too.

[Bernard Marx]

What did JFK do that is so anti-conservative by modern standards? DId he not cut taxes and confront communists? I ask from ignorance because of age-it was before my time.

He created the New Frontier agenda. Virtually every alphabet government program we hate today was inspired by the New Frontier. It was FDR's New Deal squared.

JFK died before its completion -- actually, before it even really got underway -- but sadly LBJ finished it for him. Ironically, Kennedy was such a putz in dealing with Congress the program likely wouldn't have come to fruition if he hadn't been assassinated. Johnson was one of the most effective Congressional leaders of all time and he knew where all the bones were buried. He bullied and threatened and arm-twisted Congress until he got his way.

It's true that JFK was very different than today's crop of anti-American Democrats, including his brother Ted. He believed in a strong national defense although he gullibly let Castro assume power in Cuba and really blew it at the Bay of Pigs. He was thoroughly outbluffed by Khrushchev in the Cuban Missile Crisis, giving up our missile capability in Turkey in a situation that should have never been allowed to happen.

Worst of all IMO he introduced "government by academics," and brought in Harvard eggheads to many major positions. Sadly their influence remains.

[not-an-ostrich]

Yes although I read it was a piece of his skull and I have seen photos where a large piece of something is visible on the trunk. I read this in 1963 and since.

[The Mayor]

I'm not trying to explain anything in the photos or about them. I just found
this stuff and it is all new to me. I'm gonna add one more link in my next post
that I just found yesterday, that will probably be it for my contributions.
I really don't want to post the autopsy photos, especially the one showing the
back of his head blown out.

I'm convinced and have been for years that it was badgeman,
it the fatal head shot came from the grassy knoll behind the fence..

Click here for full size image

This photograph appears on pages 24 and 25. Taken by AP Photographer James Altgens,
it clearly captures the moment when John Kennedy clutches his throat. Note the following.

John Connally is clearly turned to his right. Had he indeed been hit by the same bullet
which has just exited Kennedy's throat, his wounds would have traversed his body from right to left.
Connally's wounds were from back to front. NOTE: The claim has been made that Connaly was
facing forward when JFK was shot in the neck,
before the photo was taken, but in order to then see the view in this photo,
Connally would have had to twist to his right after being shot!

Note the turned heads of some of the policemen and Secret Service agents.
Clearly, they have heard and are responding to the sound of gunshots.

Note the fourth car back, which contains Vice President Johnson's Secret Service detail.
The car doors are open as the agents rush to protect Johnson from the threat.
Compare this with Kennedy's Secret Service detail, who have not moved at all.
Also note the man within Kennedy's Secret Service car who is grinning ear to ear
(tentatively identified as Dave Powers). It is interesting to note that in the book
"Mortal Error" this photograph is deliberately cropped to hide the open doors
of the car carrying V.P. Johnson's Secret Service detail.

Most importantly, note the man standing in the ground level doorway of the
Texas Schoolbook Depository (which is where he reportedly told the Dallas PD he was at the time).

[The Mayor]

So do I, it is a great tape and like you say very convincing.

This is very a interesting page. There is interviews with the supposed shooter

[Lucy Lake]

Ping.

[CyberAnt]

Nah! He's too stoopid!!

[KC_Conspirator]

Then about 6 or 7 years ago, I read the book: "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner.

Although Posner is a liberal, he thinks things out well and has a good head on his shoulders. He is also not an ideological nutbar whose world outlook affects his work.

[GaryL]

Hi Rocco:

May I respectfully disagree with your characterization of Case Closed?

"Notice how he knocks one conspiracy writer down after another, but couldn't touch Sylvia Meagher's works or Josiah Thompson's Six Seconds in Dallas."

Huh?....Are we talking about the same book here? There are numerous references in Case Closed to Sylvia Meagher's and Josiah Thompson’s books, effectively refuting much of their claims, to the point where I would doubt the validity of any of their conclusions. I’ve just reread all of these references and your characterization that that he “couldn’t touch” either of these two is certainly inaccurate and misleading. You may refute what he says if you choose, but I think his rebuttals against them are very persuasive. In fact he has a entire chapter in Appendix B refuting Meagher’s “mysterious deaths” assertion and her bogus statement that the “witnesses appear to be dying like flies” as if there was some kind of mysterious connection to it all.

"But the ultimate flaw for Posner's book, looking at it from an Oswald-did-it-alone theory, is that it spends 99/100ths of the time discussing Oswald's profile as an assassin, but only spends two pages (with illustrations) on the single-bullet theory."

Wrong again! I count over 30 pages devoted to the single bullet theory! Were you reading some kind of condensed version or something? There ARE two pages of illustrations of the theory, but well over 30 pages hashing out the various aspects and pros and cons of the theory – all in extreme detail.

" …and two pages on Oswald's escape from the sixth floor…"

I hate to sound like a broken record, but this is inaccurate again. There are at least six pages of the text devoted to Oswald’s escape from the TSBD, with an incredibly detailed line sketch of the interior of the building juxtaposed with the exact time frame of Oswald in the building. It shows where he was in the building at every minute, the route he took from the sniper’s nest through the building, and stops he made along the way. Your description grossly mischaracterizes Posner’s treatment of this subject.

"These nuts-and-bolts of the assassination are glossed over unconvincingly, which is terribly damaging to his cause."

You can’t be serious. One of us has read a different book!

"It's at this point when Posner's reasoning turns into a tantrum. The tone of the concluding chapter is so defensive that you sense that Posner himself knows he didn't convince the skeptics."

That’s your opinion, certainly not mine! I’ve read the book three times and I totally disagree with this assertion. I think the tone throughout the entire book is even-handed, even-tempered, and written with confidence of someone who seeks only the truth. He never overstates things and is careful of the conclusions he draws from the evidence. As he demonstrates over and over, the same cannot be said for the other side, which is not above "selectively" picking and choosing from evidence, often omitting evidence that doesn't support its case. In addition, it's not unusual for them to draw outrageous conclusions from the evidence that they do report.

I hate to say it, but your criticisms are typical of those that I’ve read about Case Closed over the years and demonstrates again that Mr. Posner is much more careful with the facts of the case than either the authors of the conspiracy books or the people who criticize him.

[foreverfree]

Hasn't the TSBD been converted to a museum to the assassination? Is it worth patronizing by a FReeper? Does it present the Oswald-alone theory exclusively or are other theories recognized?

foreverfree (like LBJ, born on August 27, but unlike LBJ, my exposure to TX consists of two DFW stopovers in 1981)