Posted on 11/10/2003 8:35:02 PM PST by sweetliberty
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*Correction on thread 6. In the heading where it says, "contained in thread 4," it should read, "contained in thread 5."
Contact information for Judge Greer, probate documents listed for Terry and Michael Schiavo, article from April, 2001 when Terri's feeding tube was ordered by Judge Quesada to be put back in pending deposition of Cindy Shook Brashers, link to clip of Steve Schiavo calling in to Glenn Beck's program, link to information on Schiavo/Centonze property value, link to transcript of On the Record interview with Ken Connor, link to American Patriot Friends Network, link to hospicepatients.org website, article about the testimony of Trudy Capone, link to post about co-sponsor of Terri's Bill in the House, Frank Attkisson giving legal reasons for the need for intervention on Terri's behalf, link to Hospice Patients Alliance website, statement that 9 neurologists have said that Terri is NOT in a PVS, Washington, D.C.contact information via email/fax, summary of legal expenses that Schiavo paid out of the money awarded to him for Terri’s care and rehabilitation, also see chart here for summary of legal expenses, This Round to Terri, But Fight Not Over article in Catholic Standard & Times (10/23/2003), another article, Schindlers Wonder What Happened the Night Terri Collapsed form Catholic Standard and Times:, and a serious question that is raised and needs to be researched.
Also in thread 6 (breaking it down into 2 paragraphs due to the length): information on holdings of Jodi Centonze, was Terri beaten(?), liability claims against Terri’s doctors, chronology of cases against Michael Schiavo, Schiavo v. Bush, who’s paying hospice(?), some quotes from George Felos’ book here and here, Jodi Centonze insurance connections, link to Village Voice article: Lying about Terri Schiavo, federal prohibition of use of funds for assisted suicide and euthanasia, the model husband according to George Felos (also see addition here), findings of Florida medical board on Dr. Hammersfahr and some facts about Judge Greer regarding this case.
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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.
If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.
Terri's Parents File Amicus Briefs to Defend "Terri's Law"
Judge Rejects Bush Effort in Schiavo Case
Please Act On Behalf Of Terri Schiavo And “Terri’s Law”
Bush facing court test to defend Terri's Law
Brother Of Michael Schiavo Defends Life-Support Decision
Schiavo tapes: snippets, then not much
House speaker Byrd defends law keeping brain-damaged woman alive
Terri Schiavo's parents discuss their pain, heartache & resolve
LOL...no, that isn't real "catchy;" however, it's accurate. I'm sure though that some creative FReeper will come up with something clever as a name for the "archive" website for info. pertaining to Terri and these cases.
Unfortunately, wittiness isn't one of my fortes.
You're not the only person wondering such things.
What would it take to have it re-done?...*sigh* in this case, probably a act of God himself!
It brings to mind this little far-fetched thought.
If the conflicting Right to Life and 'right to die' laws remain in effect in ANY state, it won't be long before Felos, or any other shyster will come to the defense of any murderer.
For example, let's say another idiot robs a store and as a result, winds up killing the clerk behind the counter. Shyster lawyer can make the absurd claim the it was the murder victim's "right to die."
Like I said, it is FAR fetched idea, but I can see the ACLU or extreme left pushing for laws to reduce the penalty of murder to nothing but a misdemeanor.
Look how the far left has already made a mockery of our Constitution and BIll Of Rights.
A question that makes me go hmmmmmm.
Posted By: Karen Lee Kranz Date: Wednesday, 12 November 2003, at 10:59 a.m.
Remember a few days ago Pat posted this very hurtful article - written in such an insensitive manner:
http://www.sptimes.com/2003/11/10/Tampabay/Schiavo_tapes__snippe.shtml
And then I replied that I thought we should all send the writer, Mr. Nohlgren, a letter.
Well, here is a great letter from my friend Mike. He makes so many great points that I wanted to post it to give you some ideas. Yesterday I had also posted some comments from Pamela that provide another slant on why Terri might be so slow to respond. Please see:
http://tbihome.org/cgi-bin/terri.pl?read=813
as that describes very briefly some of the points that Pamela makes which could be integrated into the letter that Mike wrote.
I hope you find this helpful. I'm going to write my own letter as soon as I am finished with some medical procedures scheduled for today and tomorrow.
Love and Hugs, Karen
Mr. Stephen Nohlgren St. Petersburg Times nohlgren@sptimes.com
Dear Mr. Nohlgren,
I am writing in reply to your article of November 10, 2003 entitled "Schiavo tapes: snippets, then not much."
Simply put, I am appalled at your ignorance.
The fundamental question is, how many times should Terri respond to stimuli or prompts "by choice" in order to validate her state of consciousness and cognizance? The answer is: Only Once, if she so chooses to do so.
Either she is there, or she is not. Pure and simple. How could you have missed such a basic principle?
Everyone loves to talk about "choice" these days. Have you ever tried to get the attention of a small child while he is busy playing or tired? Sometimes he will ignore you, and that's not because he does not hear you or see you, he does. He simply chooses to ignore you. Some of us adults will do the same.
I submit to you that this observation is even more pronounced with people like Terri, given that she has severe brain injury, been deprived of therapy for years, lives in a hospice environment that is not conducive to stimulating the senses, as well as her own physical limitations.
In addition, Terri is probably very frustrated and suffers some degree of psychological problem that compounds the difficulty of "response on demand". It could also be that Terri is just simply tired most of the time and does not wish to be bothered.
In light of this, I consider Judge Greer's assessment of Terri's "lack of sufficient response" equally ignorant as well.
Mr. Nohlgren, if you are convinced that Terri gave a genuine response only just once through those video tapes, then in good conscience you are obliged to affirm her cognizant ability and advise readers of your finding.
There are many peripheral issues but I would just leave it for now.
Thank you for your time and I hope you will write another article very soon to address this particular concern.
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During the 2000 trial, neurologist James Barnhill testified on behalf of Mr. Schiavo about Mrs. Schiavo's condition. Based on his review of her CAT scans, he told the court that most of her brain was destroyed, replaced by scar tissue and spinal fluid, leaving her no hope of recovery. But Florida neurologist William Hammesfahr, in a June 2001 affidavit, stated that his own review of Mrs. Schiavo's CAT scans revealed significant, viable brain tissue. "The CAT scan readings or MRI readings of Ms. Schiavo's brain were misrepresented to the court during the trial in January 2000," Dr. Hammesfahr said.
Brain scans are taken slice-by-slice. A black layer on one "slice" does not indicate what will be found in the next "slice"
Brain scans are taken slice-by-slice. A black layer on one "slice" does not indicate what will be found in the next "slice"
I cannot for the life of me, figure out how that, in light of Wiliam Hammesfahr's statement on the June 2001 affidavit,this was not used by the Schindlers.....or am I wrong? was it , and disregarded by Greer? ......need more java this morning here!!
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