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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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To: Donna Lee Nardo
So I do wonder about this... Because perhaps usama thought he would not have to take his attacks to a mass destruction level... I just don't know, but I really want to find out, dammit!

Are you sure about that? There is only one way we're going to find out.
8,381 posted on 01/08/2004 7:28:08 PM PST by mindspy
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To: FairOpinion; All
re post no. 8309...WORTH REPEATING...

To: oceanview

Some places couldn't even be evacuated -- "shelter in place" is a euphomism to "tough luck".

See this article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1054169/posts

Report: New York Must Keep Focus On Anti-Terror

Albany - A digital attack that cripples computers. A biological pathogen that overwhelms the state's hospitals. Contaminated food that sets off a mad cow-like scare. All are potential terrorist threats highlighted in a State Senate report to be released today that says New York State must do more to improve homeland security, be it in the city, Long Island or its Canadian border.

The report, by a Republican-led committee chaired by Sen. Michael Balboni (R-East Williston), identifies computer networks, agriculture, hospitals and international borders as particularly exposed targets, making about 30 recommendations for possible legislation.

While most of the report deals with statewide concerns, it includes a section on Long Island's preparedness, noting that due to its unique geography and population density, evacuation is impossible, and families need to be self-sufficient while "sheltering in place."



8,309 posted on 01/08/2004 2:04:36 PM PST by FairOpinion
8,382 posted on 01/08/2004 7:33:34 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Mossad1967
(If threats are real, not just Jihadi BS), Attack to follow shortly thereafter.

Feds must be pretty confident that all of the threats are just jihadis farting in the wind, else they wouldn't drop the alert level, don't you think?

8,383 posted on 01/08/2004 7:34:01 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
Not to sure?
8,384 posted on 01/08/2004 7:35:27 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: Mossad1967
(If threats are real, not just Jihadi BS), Attack to follow shortly thereafter.

I think they are doing this as a pretense to see what the reaction/chatter is etc....

8,385 posted on 01/08/2004 7:38:49 PM PST by SunnyUsa
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To: Cindy
likely true, I am on long island, you can't even get in or out under normal traffic conditions!
8,386 posted on 01/08/2004 7:38:50 PM PST by oceanview
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To: mindspy
I do not consider it impossible that we can uncover plan specifics in time to thwart a WMD attack, if such an attack is planned/ever planned. I also do not consider it impossible that we may not be able to thwart such a plan. Plainly, I am on the fence. Yet I know the U.S. and our current, true allies ;) are working hard to stop all attacks, and I suppose that is all we can do at most.
8,387 posted on 01/08/2004 7:40:08 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
I wouldn't go that far, he may not want to be at orange during the SOTU. they can lower the alert level while still doing the same things domestically that have been going on for the last several weeks: increased airplane security, NEST teams, etc. all I am saying is: don't discount the political calculations here.
8,388 posted on 01/08/2004 7:41:36 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Letitring
Thanks for the link; I have bookmarked it. Trying to make us feel more comfortable, are you? ;)
8,389 posted on 01/08/2004 7:43:00 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
we sure weren't able to know or do anything about the 2001 anthrax attacks, I still fear that the most, because its use has been demonstrated.
8,390 posted on 01/08/2004 7:43:44 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Mossad1967; Sean Osborne Lomax; Calpernia; JustPiper; TexKat
FWIW

I live in a small upstate NY town 3 miles from the Lake Ontario lakeshore, 50 miles from the Border, 15 miles from 3 nuke plants. My daughter works at a restaraunt in town and tonight on here shift 6 Border Patrol agents stopped in throughout the shift. Never ever see them in town.
Also she said something about train police. Never heard of them before. A spur that runs to Massena on the border from the south runs through town, and right behind my house. Many chemicals transport on that line along with a lot of bauxite and aluminum ingots that travel along the two Alcoa plants on its path.
She is all upset . I just told her with an orange alert the security around here being so close to Canada and the three nuke plants is probably sky high even if there is no specific threat. To myself however I think it seems strange. Also would be strange to take the alert down so soon with so large a presence it this area now.
8,391 posted on 01/08/2004 7:45:32 PM PST by L`enn
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To: L`enn
http://www.news4jax.com/news/2749376/detail.html
8,392 posted on 01/08/2004 7:48:14 PM PST by L`enn
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To: L`enn
There is NO OFFICIAL word of the threat level coming down. That is the media citing a source, citing a source, citing a source.
8,393 posted on 01/08/2004 7:49:27 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: tmp02
Super Bowl XXXVIII Sunday, Feb. 1, 6:25 pm on CBS Reliant Stadium, Houston, Texas

Oh, PLEASE tell me this isn't the case.

"Sum of All Fears", anyone?

< 2/4.

HUGE viewership - WORLDWIDE.

Texas. (Added bonus).

Check them vending machines, boys!!

8,394 posted on 01/08/2004 7:53:49 PM PST by jstolzen (We gotta start thinking LIKE the bad guys!!)
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To: Iron Eagle
I will say it again. They got nothing. Zip, nada, bukus..

Iron - I wish I shared your optimism.

Actually, I think the odds are VERY high that they have at least suitcase, and possibly larger nukes.

Go check out: http://worldthreats.com and look at the write-up on AQ WMD. It's sobering stuff and WELL researched/cross referenced.

8,395 posted on 01/08/2004 7:58:32 PM PST by jstolzen (We gotta start thinking LIKE the bad guys!!)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo; JustPiper; oceanview; Sean Osborne Lomax; jerseygirl
JustPiper, oceanview and Sean: what do you think jerseygirl's post? Why do you think such a nuke would not have been set off by now..

Donna Lee - if they DO have nukes, it is quite possible that they are waiting to use them at a time that would have maximum impact - politically and economically.

There's also more - MUCH more - if you consider that we're not dealing with AQ as a bunch of crazy Islamic radicals, but actually proxies for another nation state (eg: Russia or China). I read an article on this earlier (will post in a few min if I can find it) that put all of this in an entirely new - and absolutely terrifying - light. And, if what I read is indeed the case - there is a very good and logical reason that they haven't pushed the big red button - YET.

8,396 posted on 01/08/2004 8:04:50 PM PST by jstolzen (We gotta start thinking LIKE the bad guys!!)
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To: jstolzen
"some officials want to leave the orange alert until after the superbowl"

ABC News
8,397 posted on 01/08/2004 8:05:33 PM PST by Mossad1967
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To: JustPiper; Donna Lee Nardo
I agree that Donna has given us food for thought!
8,398 posted on 01/08/2004 8:05:35 PM PST by EllieR (Just peachy -- it's better than being pruney.)
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To: L`enn
bump
8,399 posted on 01/08/2004 8:05:42 PM PST by foreverfree
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To: jstolzen
Because timing is everything, and I mean everything.
8,400 posted on 01/08/2004 8:06:13 PM PST by Sean Osborne Lomax (http://www.HomelandSecurityUS.com)
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