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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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To: Raebie; Calpernia
I appreciate your trying day Rae...asking the wrong person , I am not into EOM. Cal, would you help our friend out here please?
8,041 posted on 01/07/2004 10:40:53 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
Voted. 68% say Bush's immigration reform is a bad idea.
8,042 posted on 01/07/2004 10:41:28 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: jstolzen
I've also told her about the Italian paper article ("AQ: We will destroy NYC in <=35 days.").

Do you have a reference to this?

8,043 posted on 01/07/2004 10:43:39 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: hummingbird
FR is monitored anyway, wouldn't you say, de facto, we're already on the job?!

Your right! Hey you FBI, CIA, DHS guys, we at least would like um, um, say a patch for our jackets from each of you!

8,044 posted on 01/07/2004 10:43:47 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: liz44040
Can you share, upload please ;)
8,045 posted on 01/07/2004 10:44:42 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Pro-Bush
Report M?
8,046 posted on 01/07/2004 10:45:34 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: PrivateIdaho
You must learn of the poison river and why it is poisoned now

So into RPG sounds like Castlevania ;)

8,047 posted on 01/07/2004 10:46:38 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
re:7957

Piper, if I can help, that would be wonderful.

My computer is old and does not like a lot of the sites and barely get me on the internet... To think that I traded my cream seperator for it.

When I placed my second order at Walton's for 440 pounds of food, my sister sent my brother for a visit and to see if I had lost it.

I had the last laugh, he did say that he would consider buying more food, but he also said that he had been wondering how long our food is stored before it reaches us.

Ray is a forklift (fancy name now) mechanic and is based at a major brand warehouse, he had begun to notice that the pallets of food that are in his path to his office, are never moved and some had sat there for 2 or 3 years.

That was the first thing that I noticed with the Walton food, the oatmeal and brown sugar had me smelling it and eating it raw, so good.

Many of the beans and flours, actually came from growers in the NW of America, could have been re-bagged of course, but they were so fresh and plump, that I like to think they were grown there.

They have an organic line, but I can only afford the regular supplies.

Do store and save and learn to use it.

Ruth
8,048 posted on 01/07/2004 10:46:43 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Ruth, whose foil hat includes flowers and feathers, and a kitty chasing them.....)
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To: JustPiper; Raebie
Already looking into it. Started here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1013726/posts?page=7844#7844

Raebie's suggestion also led to freeperfromnj's suggestion of EgyptAir. I think that one is the winner.
8,049 posted on 01/07/2004 10:50:26 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: hummingbird
LOL...my George Foreman can beat up your Geroge Foreman...nanana
8,050 posted on 01/07/2004 10:51:05 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Oorang
ROSE

Nuke program parts unearthed in Baghdad back yard

U.S. officials: Find is not smoking gun

Thursday, June 26, 2003 Posted: 6:47 AM EDT (1047 GMT)

Parts of a gas centrifuge system for enriching uranium were dug up in Baghdad.

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Story Tools -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- VIDEO CNN's Mike Boettcher spoke to the Iraqi scientist who led U.S. officials to the nuclear centrifuge buried in his back yard. PLAY VIDEO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (CNN) -- The CIA has in its hands the critical parts of a key piece of Iraqi nuclear technology -- parts needed to develop a bomb program -- that were dug up in a back yard in Baghdad, CNN has learned.

The parts, with accompanying plans, were unearthed by Iraqi scientist Mahdi Obeidi who had hidden them under a rose bush in his garden 12 years ago under orders from Qusay Hussein and Saddam Hussein's then son-in-law, Hussein Kamel.

U.S. officials emphasized this was not evidence Iraq had a nuclear weapon -- but it was evidence the Iraqis concealed plans to reconstitute their nuclear program as soon as the world was no longer looking.

The parts and documents Obeidi gave the CIA were shown exclusively to CNN at CIA headquarters in Virginia.

Obeidi told CNN the parts of a gas centrifuge system for enriching uranium were part of a highly sophisticated system he was ordered to hide to be ready to rebuild the bomb program.

"I have very important things at my disposal that I have been ordered to have, to keep, and I've kept them, and I don't want this to proliferate, because of its potential consequences if it falls in the hands of tyrants, in the hands of dictators or of terrorists," said Obeidi, who has been taken out of Iraq with the help of the U.S. government.

Obeidi also said he was not the only scientist ordered to hide that type of equipment.

"I think there may be more than three other copies. And I think it is quite important to look at this list so they will not fall into the hands of the wrong people," he said.

Centrifuges are drums or cylinders that spin at high speed and separate heavy and light molecules, allowing increasingly enriched uranium to be drawn off.

David Kay, who led three U.N. arms inspection missions in Iraq in 1991-92 and now heads the CIA's search for unconventional weapons, started work two days ago in Baghdad. CNN spoke to him about the case over a secure teleconferencing line.

"It begins to tell us how huge our job is," Kay said. "Remember, his material was buried in a barrel behind his house in a rose garden.

"There's no way that that would have been discovered by normal international inspections. I couldn't have done it. My successors couldn't have done it."

Kay said he had mixed emotions when he saw the centrifuge components: "It was a realization that I hadn't gotten all the parts [of Iraq's nuclear program]. So there was a moment of regret, but there was also an exhilaration that now maybe we have a chance to take this to the very bottom."

CNN had this story last week but made a decision to withhold it at the request of the U.S. government, which cited safety and national security concerns.

The U.S. government told CNN the security and safety issues have been dealt with and there is no risk now in telling the story fully.

The gas centrifuge equipment dates to Iraq's pre-1991 efforts to build nuclear weapons.

Experts said the documents and pieces Obeidi gave the United States were the critical information and parts to restart a nuclear weapons program, and would have saved Saddam's regime several years and as much as hundreds of millions of dollars for research.

David Albright, who was a U.N. nuclear weapons inspector in Iraq in the 1990s, said inspectors "understood that Iraq probably hid centrifuge documents, may have had components, and so it is very important that those items be found."

"What it is that Obeidi was ordered to keep was all the information and some centrifuge components, so that if he was given the order, he could restart the centrifuge program," said Albright, president of the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington.

"In a sense, the program was in hibernation. He was the key to the restart of this centrifuge program, and he never got the order. So in that sense it doesn't show at all that Iraq had a nuclear program. And Obeidi told me that he never worked on a nuclear program after 1991."

Obeidi said he felt unsafe in Iraq after the U.S.-led invasion and that he was getting pressure from different corners of the country.

He also said other Iraqi scientists were watching to see if he was safe after he cooperated with the U.S. government.

Now that he and his family are safely out of Iraq, Obeidi said he believes other scientists would come forward with other components of Iraq's weapons program.

Before the Iraq war, U.S. officials said Iraq tried to purchase aluminum tubes that could be used in centrifuges that enrich uranium.

In his March 7 presentation to the U.N. Security Council, however, International Atomic Energy Agency Director General Mohamed ElBaradei said there was no evidence "Iraq intended to use these 81-millimeter tubes for any project other than the reverse engineering of rockets." (Full story)

U.S. officials, including President Bush, also had cited British intelligence documents indicating Iraq may have tried to buy 500 tons of uranium from Niger, but the IAEA said the documents were obvious fakes.

CNN correspondents Mike Boettcher and David Ensor and producer Maria Fleet contributed to this story.

8,051 posted on 01/07/2004 10:57:00 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Revel

George John Tenet was sworn in as Director of Central Intelligence on 11 July 1997 following a unanimous vote by both the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the full Senate. In this position he heads the Intelligence Community (all foreign intelligence agencies of the United States) and directs the Central Intelligence Agency.

Mr. Tenet served as the Deputy Director of Central Intelligence, having been confirmed in that position in July 1995. Following the departure of John Deutch in December 1996, he served as Acting Director.

Through the entire Clinton admin. Deutch also was a Xlinton man

That high enough?

8,052 posted on 01/07/2004 10:58:14 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Calpernia
Gulf Air Cargo Care is your guarantee of speed and reliability every step of the way.

This worries me...why is Gulf Air still allowed here?!

8,053 posted on 01/07/2004 11:00:54 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
Report M?

I am pissed that 8 Million Illegals have amnesty to stay here in the states legally. Who rewards criminals?

On the terror front, I feel like my chain has been yanked big time. I have been in a frenzy since Christmas eve, and now I hear about the scientists with nuke detectors..I was surprised to see Baltimore on the list of cities. I should have known that they won't strike until the country is fat and happy.

Frustration level is high, and I am questioning everything. I need to step back and evaluate the big picture to get to the truth. The economy, gold prices, falling dollar, immigration reform, EOM, Ridge, EU, Russia, China, Israel, Qaddafi, Mars, Pakistan/India Peace, North Korea reaching out, Africa hell, Outsourcing Jobs, PBS, Liberal bias, Dean.......It all is relevant, and many factions are fighting like hell for NOW is the time of change. I see a time of sweeping change in America, and it is happening faster than we know!
8,054 posted on 01/07/2004 11:01:41 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: JustPiper
"What to tell the family about being prepared".

Tell them that the cost of food is going up and your money in the bank is not drawing enough interest to pay you to leave it there.

You might tell them, that during the early 70's, Bill came home and woke me up, an hour after leaving for work with the statement "Would you take me to the hospital, I think that I am having a heart attack".

He was, and it was over two years before he was able to work.

Then there is Gloria, whose husband lost his job almost a year ago, when the factory closed and her food supply is about used up.

Then there was Ruth in later years, whose LDS friend moved from the area and gave me her food supply, some 20 years old and not as good as todays dried food. I was to feed it to the animals, a pickup load of it.

But my health failed and I lived on it for a year, till I could sell my place in the hills and move back closer to town.

Or about Dena, who lived on her Y2K food, after her husband was badly injured in a motorcycle accident.

I can't tell you how many times, I have heard other versions of how the Y2K food was used, but all will fall into the above classes.

And if they still don't listen or like a brother of mine who says that he won't need to store food, cause Ruth has it already and he will come here.......then you store more food, because the one thing that is sure, is they will arrive.

Be safe and happy.

Ruth
8,055 posted on 01/07/2004 11:02:26 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Ruth, whose foil hat includes flowers and feathers, and a kitty chasing them.....)
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To: JustPiper
I am buying a gun this week

Good for you, self-defense is so important.

8,056 posted on 01/07/2004 11:06:11 PM PST by thecabal
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To: turbocat; Donna Lee Nardo; LayoutGuru2
[tubavil] When push comes to shove, muslims are muslims and we are the kaffirs...

ijaz is an American-born muslim of Pakistani descent. I trust him as much as those muslim fbi translators... ======================================================= Tonight on The O'Reilly Factor, Bill O'Reilly addressed the arrest of Florida State University Professor Sami Al Arian. Bill O'Reilly's guest was Fox news analyst Mansoor Ijaz.

Bill O'Reilly pointed out that he had been under heavy attack over the past year from the Muslim community for originally breaking the first arrest of Professor Al Arian, but had kept quiet over the ongoing debate.

Sami Al Arian was arrested on terrorism-related charges and Bill O'Reilly said that if he was innocent, Al Arian should be fully exhonerated and given full backpay.

In the closing remarks of the segment, Bill O'Reilly said that if the Islamic Imams had come out publicly, which they should have done, after 9/11, and condemned it with mass ralleys that he would recieve it. Bill O'Reilly said that it was the imam's responsibiity to tell the American people what they think - not his.

Bill O'Reilly gave the closing remarks to Fox News analyst Mansoor Ijaz, who had led a very stern and vigorous (sometimes heated) defense for Islam during the segment.

Manssor Ijaz's reply to Bill O'Reilly:

"You're right about that, but there is a problem - and that is that these people are scared. They're scared of you, they're scared of the media, they're scared of people that are driving them further and further under the ground.

And, I'm telling you that it is creating a basement that is going to retaliate against the American people (O'Reilly says, "I hope not!") in a way we have never seen before!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/852754/posts

8,057 posted on 01/07/2004 11:06:15 PM PST by tubavil
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HOMELAND INSECURITY New anti-terror program contains hidden loophole High-level memorandum orders 'mitigation' if travelers delayed - In rolling out the new US-VISIT program to fingerprint and screen foreign travelers, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge boasted that it ''pulls the welcome mat from terrorists.''

IMPORTANT

But there's one more factor not being considered by the Republicans and their overconfident cheerleaders: The possibility of a major third-party candidate who could draw more votes away from Bush than from the Democratic nominee.
How Bush can lose

8,058 posted on 01/07/2004 11:06:15 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Calpernia; All
OBL coming in on a Falcon logo flight in the cargo hold?
"Belly of the Eagle"

Unfortunately, this feels right

8,059 posted on 01/07/2004 11:07:56 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
Hey, George Foreman is my neighbor and you are no George Foreman, so there.
8,060 posted on 01/07/2004 11:08:32 PM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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