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What one company is doing about the AWB and its possible Sunset
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| unk
| Mark A. Westrom
Posted on 10/31/2003 5:58:27 AM PST by Long Cut
The ArmaLite® Post-PostBan Rifle Program
Fact: Unless reauthorized or replaced with a worse program, the Assault Weapon Act of 1994 will expire in September, 2004.
Possible outcomes are:
Reauthorization, i.e. no change in the law.
Replacement with a worse law, even to the possibility that production is halted.
Expiration of the law.
Expiration for only a short time, and then be reauthorization or worse.
The AW Ban is a cosmetic law, and wed all like to own rifles without the blemishes that it established. If the law expires, theres plenty of time to wait for a new rifle with pre-ban characteristics. If any of the other three outcomes occur, a delay could be a real mistake. The purpose of the PPB program is to prepare purchasers for any outcome.
The program offers customers a way to avoid the risk of delay, yet also have the benefits of a change in law. The opportunity is provided by the design of ArmaLites® 2003 rifles.
1. Beginning immediately, ArmaLite® 2003 rifles (with a pinned muzzle brake, or none installed) ship with a certificate that will provide customers a pin-on flash suppressor and installation instructions at no charge. Unless earlier legislation makes it illegal for customers to install the device, flash suppressors will ship in summer 2004 to allow time to get the rifle modified even if theres an opportunity of only a few days.
Until the law changes, the flash suppressor will provide a reminder to every customer that it is essential to get out the vote in 2004.
2. For customers who wish to go an extra step and install a bayonet lug, ArmaLite® will continue to sell pin-on sight bases with bayonet lugs, and will provide installation instructions for gunsmiths. All ArmaLite® clamping front sight bases are easily removable, with no pin-holes in the barrel, so pin-on bases can be easily installed.
3. For customers who wish to be able to convert their rifle to a Pre-Ban configuration immediately upon expiration, ArmaLite® will produce and sell AR-10 collapsing buttstocks (the AR-10 requires a special collapsing buttstock). It is likely that prompt installation of such a buttstock will allow customers to make other changes at a more leisurely pace.
Installation of options 2 and 3 both are already available for law enforcement customers (with proper rifle markings). Civil customers must await a change in the law, and flash suppressors, bayonet lugs, and collapsing stocks will all be accompanied by clear information about the law to prevent a violation.
4. Pre-2003 rifles with pinned front sight bases or threaded-pinned-welded brakes, or customers who wish threaded brakes on 2003 models instead of pinned ones, require gunsmith or factory replacement of those parts. ArmaLite® offers the components for sale, and will perform conversions at normal shop charges.
Mark A. Westrom
President
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: ar180b; armalite; assaultweaponsban; awb; bang; banglist; evilblackrifles; guncontrol; guns
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To: hopespringseternal
I would like a tank.
To: glock rocks
I want that gun.
Please tell me where I can get it!
102
posted on
10/31/2003 9:57:41 AM PST
by
ItsOurTimeNow
("Forth now, and fear no darkness!")
To: EricOKC
"If they STILL didnt get it, we may have to repeat the march - armed" Maybe not wise. Congress rules D.C. It's a federal district and they are troop-protected, if need be. Look what happened to the 'Bonus Army,' and they weren't even armed.
To: 556x45
There are quite a few rifles with 180 roots. You mentioned the SA-80. There is also the Beretta SC70, Singaporese SAR, Taiwanese T-65, and the XM-8's parent, the HK-36.
All use the AR-180 operating system.
104
posted on
10/31/2003 10:04:23 AM PST
by
Long Cut
(Whiskey...oil for life's frictions)
To: Mr. Mojo
"It's my goal never to even touch a gun in my life," he said nervously." There's nothing more pathetic than a hoplophobe exposed in all his cowardly glory.
L
105
posted on
10/31/2003 10:07:00 AM PST
by
Lurker
(Some people say you shouldn't kick a man when he's down. I say there's no better time to do it.)
To: Travis McGee
Travis,
Having worked for a few years in an area rather close to a public library, I began reading books written by holocust survivors mostly out of curiousity. I spend a couple of years reading over a dozen or more first hand accounts. And a few written by folks that did the research and had interviwed survivors.
Every gun grabber should be made to read such real life accounts of what Animals can and will do if they have the "Power" to do it.
Some of it made me physically sick to read. It also galvinized my feelings towards ever giving anyone that kind of power over me. NEVER!
106
posted on
10/31/2003 10:11:04 AM PST
by
Area51
(RINO hunter!)
To: 556x45
Check out
THIS LINK. It's one of the best resources online for guns I've found.
107
posted on
10/31/2003 10:12:50 AM PST
by
Long Cut
(Whiskey...oil for life's frictions)
To: Long Cut
$1000? Where are you shopping? You can get a very good kit gun (all new parts) for %450 and a receiver for $120 and put it together yourself.
108
posted on
10/31/2003 10:15:01 AM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: Blood of Tyrants
I've been looking at Entreprise's and DPMS' websites, and SGN. BTW, all the "kit guns" and low-buck Hesse and Imbel FALs are now BANNED from importation by the BATF's decree.
109
posted on
10/31/2003 10:26:15 AM PST
by
Long Cut
(Whiskey...oil for life's frictions)
To: EricOKC
If you think about it a minute, the best time to visit D.C. would be to join in the celebration after all the vacancies have been filled.
To: Long Cut
I'm worried that you are right,sir. None of my (now adult) children are interested in shooting or firearms ownership.
If GWB does sign an AWB, the best thing for the country will be to vote him out and Hitlery in. Only in this manner will the civil war get started before my generation is gone and there is even anyone left that knows what the constitution says,let alone means. FMCDH
To: Long Cut
Wasnt talking about the operating system but rather the basic internal design. The bolt/carrier, 'running' arms (that the carrier runs on) and springs are very similar. I think other bits might be also. There are loads of rifles that use an op rod...the Garand, AK, SKS etc....a long list. Which leads to the puzzling question of WHY did they abandon the op rod on the 15???
112
posted on
10/31/2003 10:33:22 AM PST
by
556x45
To: Rhoderic
Errr, this might be a stupid question but why would anyone want to have such a weapon? Where does this stop? Should we encourage selling outdated Army tanks to the general public? And please . . . don't say it's for hunting. Sounds reasonable to me.
113
posted on
10/31/2003 10:34:24 AM PST
by
archy
(Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
To: Big Mack
Hey, don't leave out the geezer generation! We're still here a'plenty.
To: Long Cut
However, such weapons are quite fun to shoot, are robust and reliable, and are quite versatile. They are also lightweight and easy to use and train on. Plus, the ammo is relatively inexpensive.Not to mention they are also very 'modular' in their design, very easy to modify (simple to build an entire gun from a bag of parts using a few simple tools), very easy to swap uppers (thereby facilitating caliber changes) and lowers, lots of aftermarket parts available, and they represent the current "state of the art" in homeland defense, tyranny-busting, Constitutional Militia arms. Other than that, no one "needs" such a weapon, unless one takes the 2nd (or the Constitution) seriously and believes the Founders' words (paraphrased as:"the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is the bedrock of liberty."
115
posted on
10/31/2003 10:36:12 AM PST
by
45Auto
(Big holes are (almost) always better.)
To: hopespringseternal
-And how many people do you know who want to buy a tank for hunting?
Ooooh, I want to try that ; )
116
posted on
10/31/2003 10:36:16 AM PST
by
looscnnn
("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
To: archy
No please... not the Average White Band......no!!!!
To: jjm2111
If it gets to the presidents desk, and he signs it, [that] would be a campaign issue like you wouldnt believe, said Pratt. It would put gun owners in a real foul mood. That is an understatement all right. I won't be voting for President Bush if he signs an AWB renewal.
Ditto. I voted for him because he seemed to be quite conservative. I've been pleased with his actions against the Islamo-fascists and tax cuts, but displeased with his signing of the CFR and the Homeland Security bills, and the excessive domestic spending. Given that the Dems would be worse on these issues, as of now I would still vote for him again. HOWEVER, if GWB signs ANY renewal or expansion of ANY provision of ANY gun control bill, he'll lost my vote - along with all other Republican candidates in '04.
To: Rhoderic
I need one to shoot my enemies with.
Don't you want to be my friend?
To: looscnnn
Yup! You won't even have to dress it out. Just wrap the parts and throw 'em in the freezer. :>
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