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What one company is doing about the AWB and its possible Sunset
Armalite website ^ | unk | Mark A. Westrom

Posted on 10/31/2003 5:58:27 AM PST by Long Cut

The ArmaLite® Post-PostBan ™ Rifle Program

Fact: Unless reauthorized or replaced with a worse program, the Assault Weapon Act of 1994 will expire in September, 2004.

Possible outcomes are:

“Reauthorization,” i.e. no change in the law.
Replacement with a worse law, even to the possibility that production is halted.
Expiration of the law.
Expiration for only a short time, and then be reauthorization or worse.

The AW Ban is a cosmetic law, and we’d all like to own rifles without the blemishes that it established. If the law expires, there’s plenty of time to wait for a new rifle with “pre-ban” characteristics. If any of the other three outcomes occur, a delay could be a real mistake. The purpose of the PPB program is to prepare purchasers for any outcome.

The program offers customers a way to avoid the risk of delay, yet also have the benefits of a change in law. The opportunity is provided by the design of ArmaLite’s® 2003 rifles.

1. Beginning immediately, ArmaLite® 2003 rifles (with a pinned muzzle brake, or none installed) ship with a certificate that will provide customers a pin-on flash suppressor and installation instructions at no charge. Unless earlier legislation makes it illegal for customers to install the device, flash suppressors will ship in summer 2004 to allow time to get the rifle modified even if there’s an opportunity of only a few days.

Until the law changes, the flash suppressor will provide a reminder to every customer that it is essential to get out the vote in 2004.

2. For customers who wish to go an extra step and install a bayonet lug, ArmaLite® will continue to sell pin-on sight bases with bayonet lugs, and will provide installation instructions for gunsmiths. All ArmaLite® clamping front sight bases are easily removable, with no pin-holes in the barrel, so pin-on bases can be easily installed.

3. For customers who wish to be able to convert their rifle to a “Pre-Ban” configuration immediately upon expiration, ArmaLite® will produce and sell AR-10™ collapsing buttstocks (the AR-10™ requires a special collapsing buttstock). It is likely that prompt installation of such a buttstock will allow customers to make other changes at a more leisurely pace.

Installation of options 2 and 3 both are already available for law enforcement customers (with proper rifle markings). Civil customers must await a change in the law, and flash suppressors, bayonet lugs, and collapsing stocks will all be accompanied by clear information about the law to prevent a violation.

4. Pre-2003 rifles with pinned front sight bases or threaded-pinned-welded brakes, or customers who wish threaded brakes on 2003 models instead of pinned ones, require gunsmith or factory replacement of those parts. ArmaLite® offers the components for sale, and will perform conversions at normal shop charges.

Mark A. Westrom
President


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: ar180b; armalite; assaultweaponsban; awb; bang; banglist; evilblackrifles; guncontrol; guns
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To: Jeff Head
Hmm. I'll keep my eyes open when I get Stateside in February, then.
41 posted on 10/31/2003 7:13:03 AM PST by Long Cut (Whiskey...oil for life's frictions)
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To: Rhoderic
"Errr, this might be a stupid question . . . "

Well, actually, it was. But I think by now you should have enough good answers to prompt you to start your own armory. Try it. You'll enjoy it. Nothing like the smell of gunpowder in the crisp morning air down at the local range.

Welcome to FR, where men are men and women are glad of it.

42 posted on 10/31/2003 7:15:55 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Rhoderic
You are probably just a hit and run troll, but I will deconstruct your assumptions just the same.

Errr, this might be a stupid question but why would anyone want to have such a weapon?

What do you mean by "such a weapon"? It is just a semiautomatic firearm of the kind used to hunt with for nearly 100 years.

Where does this stop?

What are you talking about? Modern military small arms are generally less powerful than their civilian counterparts. Except for the full auto weapons, which aren't very popular among civilian gun owners anyway.

Should we encourage selling outdated Army tanks to the general public?

YOU brought that up, no one else did. No one is seriously proposing to do that, either.

And please . . . don't say it's for hunting.

And how many people do you know who want to buy a tank for hunting?

43 posted on 10/31/2003 7:18:45 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: Centurion2000
Bump.
44 posted on 10/31/2003 7:23:03 AM PST by Long Cut (Whiskey...oil for life's frictions)
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To: Long Cut; *bang_list
The * is your friend...
45 posted on 10/31/2003 7:25:21 AM PST by El Laton Caliente
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To: glock rocks
LOL! Outstanding!
46 posted on 10/31/2003 7:25:37 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Long Cut; Travis McGee
Thanks for the link and the information, Long Cut. Yes, some of us are aware, and many more will be when this comes down to the wire. We all discussed this at length earlier this year and knew it going to be an eye-opener for a lot of people next year. Travis Mc Gee has written a book that presents a possible scenario the gun-control perps might use to finalize their ultimate agenda. T'ain't gonna work.
47 posted on 10/31/2003 7:28:14 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Rhoderic
Here's a more detailed version of my first answer.

To avoid any of these in the United States:


48 posted on 10/31/2003 7:28:29 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: El Laton Caliente
My bad. (LC smacks wrist with wooden ruler)
49 posted on 10/31/2003 7:29:21 AM PST by Long Cut (Whiskey...oil for life's frictions)
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To: Rhoderic
Should we encourage selling outdated Army tanks to the general public?

No, they are a b!%&# to park. They should be reserved for surf fishermen, makes navigating beaches easier.

Silly question, silly answer.

50 posted on 10/31/2003 7:30:36 AM PST by StriperSniper (All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Eastbound
Let's hope. The campaign the graboids will unleash with all the dough they're husbanding right now will be like nothing we've ever seen, though.

They'll spend millions (plus whatever Hollywood spends) to avoid being showed for the imbecilic hoplophobes they are.

51 posted on 10/31/2003 7:34:11 AM PST by Long Cut (Whiskey...oil for life's frictions)
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To: Dead Corpse
I suspect there's going to be an unforseen major shift in politics in the next couple of years if this crap continues. I see the mother of all grassroot movements.
52 posted on 10/31/2003 7:36:57 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Long Cut
Great choice too! The only 'defect' is the plastic lower. Original Ar18/180s had a heavy sheet steel lower which, I think, was more substantial. At any rate youll have loads of fun w/ it.
53 posted on 10/31/2003 7:42:25 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Long Cut
Well, it DID drive the price for all semiauto sporters through the roof, as well as the cost of mags.

Well, for pre-ban models anyway, but that's because they were made "special" by the ban. My postban M15A2 (Armalite's designation for their AR-15 model) cost around the same as prebans went for before the ban.

Don't get me wrong, I think you should be able to have an AR with a bayonet lug & a flash hider if that's what you want. I just don't see much utility in it for the average shooter. My point is, I guess, that the AW ban was a bust, it did little to nothing.

The Brady Bunch has figured that out, which is why they are trying to "close the loopholes" left in their silly cosmetic ban. Thankfully, most of American has gotten past their anti-"Matty Mattel Looking" Ugly Gun hysteria, and soon, God willing, this whole thing will be a past issue.

54 posted on 10/31/2003 7:43:04 AM PST by Kenton
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To: Jeff Head
BUMP !!
55 posted on 10/31/2003 7:44:00 AM PST by glock rocks (molon labe)
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To: 556x45
I don't see it as a "defect". Polymer gun parts are more than proven at this point. Glock, Sig, HK, etc.

Armalite is also thinking about making a version with a Picatinny rail, and a .308 version.

56 posted on 10/31/2003 7:47:32 AM PST by Long Cut (Whiskey...oil for life's frictions)
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To: Eastbound
With all the hype they are spreading about islamofascist terrorism about to happen in the country, you'd think they would open the armories and start distributing all those ugly guns instead of wanting to collect them. It just doesn't make sense that they think the gummint is going to be the protector of the people if terrorism gets a foothold here.
57 posted on 10/31/2003 7:50:57 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Rhoderic
Errr, this might be a stupid question but why would anyone want to have such a weapon? Where does this stop? Should we encourage selling outdated Army tanks to the general public?


"The right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible."
-Sen. Hubert H. Humphrey, D-Minn, 1960
58 posted on 10/31/2003 7:52:12 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Kenton
Yeah, the whole thing was proof-positive that they didn't know what the Hell they were talking about. Problem is, after 10 years and all the letters and emails and counterefforts of our side, I STILL read editorials and VPC press releases that speak of "High-Powered Assault Rifles", "Weapons Of War", "Criminal Weapon-Of-Choice", etc.

We educate. They lie, lie, and they lie. And since they're appealing to emotional histeria, they sway voters.

59 posted on 10/31/2003 7:52:14 AM PST by Long Cut (Whiskey...oil for life's frictions)
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To: Rhoderic
Should we encourage selling outdated Army tanks to the general public? Why not? It’s a popular hobby. http://bcoy1cpb.pacdat.net/military_vehicles.htm
60 posted on 10/31/2003 7:54:47 AM PST by El Laton Caliente
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