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Wash. Gov. Cancels Presidential Primary
AP ^ | 10/30/2003 | DAVID AMMONS

Posted on 10/31/2003 4:47:40 AM PST by Phlap

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) - Gov. Gary Locke on Thursday called a special session of the Legislature for Dec. 5 to cancel next year's presidential primary, saying the state shouldn't waste money on an election that has no real meaning.

The primary had been set for March 2. But Democrats are using precinct caucuses in February to allocate national convention delegates, making the later Democratic primary moot. And President Bush has no serious challenger for the Republican nomination.

"Canceling the nonbinding presidential primary will save the taxpayers more than $7 million," the governor said. "It makes no sense to spend taxpayer money on an election that serves no practical purpose."

Canceling the primary was first proposed by state Sen. Jim Kastama, a Democrat, and eventually other legislators took up the cause. Local officials also called for the cancellation.

GOP Secretary of State Sam Reed, a staunch backer of the primary, reluctantly went along, telling The Associated Press "it can't pass the straight-face test" to run a meaningless election during a recession.

Kastama hailed Locke's decision to call the special session, and predicted a strong, perhaps even unanimous, vote in both houses.

"It's one of those things that just makes sense," he said.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 2004
The fact is that no state should financialy help any political party choose candidates for any office. The parties(dem, repub or nazi for that matter) should choose their standard bearers at the partys expense.
1 posted on 10/31/2003 4:47:40 AM PST by Phlap
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To: Phlap
to run a meaningless election during a recession

Worst economy in 100 years! This recession which we are currently in (snort!) is so bad, I think we're all doomed.

2 posted on 10/31/2003 4:49:45 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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To: ClearCase_guy
What's funny is I guess he thinks it would be ok to hold a meaningless election at some other time.
3 posted on 10/31/2003 5:06:31 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: Phlap
Disenfranchisement Alert

So rather than let the voters of Washington choose their nominee, the State of Washington's DemocRATic party moves it to the smokey back room. Manipulations galore. Wasn't the shift to a primary vote in response to the "insider trading" of party hacks?

How about the military vote plus others out of their precinct on caucus day? Hmmmmm? No absentee ballot? Disenfranchisement! Disenfranchisement!

That said, I believe a vote would still be meaningful. For example, what if the caucuses choose Clark but the voters choose Dean? That would be mighty meaningful.

4 posted on 10/31/2003 5:25:00 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: Phlap
Why not let Taco Bell handle the primary? Buy a Taco Supreme; a vote for Dean, etc.
5 posted on 10/31/2003 5:28:10 AM PST by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: Phlap
It's interesting that the Democrats of Wash. State think that the Democratic Primary is "meaningless". I guess they think Bush is a shoo-in.
6 posted on 10/31/2003 6:58:40 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: CyberCowboy777
ping
7 posted on 10/31/2003 7:36:10 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
fyi
8 posted on 10/31/2003 7:40:37 AM PST by deport (Guess who is the SUCKER............)
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To: Phlap; 007Dawg; 11B3; 123easy; 1911A1; 7mmMag@LeftCoast; A44MAGNUT; Acrobat; Adam-ondi-Ahman; ...
Washington State Ping List

This is all known Washington State Freepers and interested parties as of 9/23/03
Less those who opted out
If you want on or off this ping list Freepmail me.

9 posted on 10/31/2003 9:22:41 AM PST by CyberCowboy777 (After taking several readings, I'm surprised to find my mind still fairly sound.)
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To: Phlap
Good. We are saving a few million dollars!
10 posted on 10/31/2003 9:26:57 AM PST by Libertina
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To: Phlap
"The fact is that no state should financialy help any political party choose candidates for any office. The parties(dem, repub or nazi for that matter) should choose their standard bearers at the partys expense."

The problem with this is that it disenfranchises independent voters (like me). It seems to me we ought to have a voice in who gets chosen.

The best way, believe it or not, is the Louisiana-style open primary, wherein the two top vote-getters move from the primary to the general election, no matter WHAT party they are (both Democrats, both Republicans, one of each, or any other combination). Folks registered to any party (or no party) can vote for anyone of either party.

11 posted on 10/31/2003 9:36:01 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog
The problem with this is that it disenfranchises independent voters (like me). It seems to me we ought to have a voice in who gets chosen.

Your voice is heard in the general election. If you are not a party member, why should you have a choice in who that party puts forth as a standard bearer? And why should the state pay for political party functions?

12 posted on 10/31/2003 10:06:18 AM PST by Phlap
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"If you are not a party member, why should you have a choice in who that party puts forth as a standard bearer?"

Suppose two Republicans and two Democrats are running. I prefer a specific one of the Republicans, but not the other. Why shouldn't I have a say in which one advances to the general election??

Like I said, this disenfrancises me. A completely open primary (a la Louisiana) is the best choice. And in THAT case, the primary elections is NOT a "political party function".

13 posted on 10/31/2003 10:52:57 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Phlap
I thought the primary was in September 2004, followed by November 2, 2004, general. It's written in the WA State Code that a primary must be held 21 days or 3 weeks prior to the general which ever is soonest or something to that effect. So what's this primary that is trying to be cancelled?
14 posted on 10/31/2003 11:17:50 AM PST by lilylangtree
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To: Brilliant
"I guess they think Bush is a shoo-in."

That was my thought also....LOL.

15 posted on 10/31/2003 12:36:30 PM PST by goodnesswins (Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free.)
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To: deport
The most humerous aspect of this whole thing is it seems like we have an election every couple of months for some initiative or another. I've got my latest (absentee) ballot sitting on my desk that I haven't even opened yet.

I "believe" there are two things on it. I know one is an initiative on whether to repeal the yet to be enacted ergonomics law that will help to pursuade more businesses to leave the area. Rather then consolidate these things into (at least) an annual election it seems like we have one every two-three months.

Meaningless election? That's SOP here. It would be better to simply tie the primary in with some other ballot...perhaps in with a measure to repeal the noxious weed laws.

16 posted on 10/31/2003 1:31:29 PM PST by CWOJackson (.)
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To: Phlap
Does the legislature have a view on building a new Seahawk stadium after the people voted it down????
17 posted on 10/31/2003 4:30:22 PM PST by Drango (Defund the left propaganda machine ~ Pacifica/NPR/PBS~)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Hog of Steel. I like that!

Well, I agree with you. This scenario stinks. The only people who would like it are the puppet masters pulling the strings at party headquarters, who usually distrust grassroots operators and treat us like we smell bad or something.

In essence this means no power to the people of any party, period. Bad news for those who want to steer the country to safety, Conservative of course.

18 posted on 10/31/2003 11:13:00 PM PST by goody2shooz
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To: NonValueAdded
Good point. If I were a rat voter I'd be plenty peeved, but then if I was a rat voter, I'd be too stupid to understand what just happened to me.
19 posted on 11/02/2003 8:06:08 AM PST by ShandaLear
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To: whereasandsoforth
lol
20 posted on 11/02/2003 11:01:00 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firemackbrown.com)
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