TERRI IS NOW BEING RE-HYDRATED. WE DID IT! BUT PLEASE CONTINUE TO PRAY, E-MAIL

Live report from Hospice

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

UPDATE FROM TERRI'S VIGIL SITE ON LOCATION... by floriduh voter and drk4the1: TERRI IS NOT BEING RE-HYDRATED AT MORTON PLANT HOSPITAL IN CLEARWATER, FL. The Governor's Office is under the impression and reporting that the procedure started at 7:07 pm. While it's being reported to the family attorney that she is not going to receive anything. A telephonic hearing is scheduled to begin at 8:30 pm est with Judge Douglas Baird re: Michael Schiavo's suit against Gov. Bush and his executive order of today. Additionally, Michael S. is disputing his removal as Terri's legal guardian. Anything helpful appreciated. Contact floriduh voter or the drk screen name. We are outside fighting the mosquitoes. H E L P !!!!!

293 posted on 10/21/2003 8:51 PM EDT by floriduh voter (Please keep following Terri Threads. We aren't done yet... updates also at terrisfight.org)

[editor-surveyor]

No, the comments were made to "atruelady," and had absolutely nothing to do with the creep's misstress.

I have no idea what you're referring to.

[pc93]

He strangled Terri what else do you want to know?!

[atruelady]

I don't either, but I did post info about Schiavo's "girlfriend" or how about "grrrrlfriend", she is probably a dog. Her name is Jodi Centonze and she graduated from Pinellas Park H.S. in 1993. If I had premium access, I would post a message about her and Schiavo on her school mesageboards for all to see.

[atruelady]

I'M SORRY!!!! JODI CENTONZE GRADUATED IN 1983. I THINK I NEED A BREAK. MY TYPOS ARE OUT OF CONTROL.

[attagirl]

Ssee post 1527. But you did refer your comments to me as well--but don't worry about it. I'll save my anger for bigger things--like Terri's plight.

[windchime]

Thanks for the ping, RC.

[windchime]

Catching up Bump.

"Yeah, same here, and I can tell you that I am not feeling any too comfortable with I have been seeing happening to my church...for as long as it continues to be so, at least officially."

Me either.

I am sooooo far behind in reading/responding that I'm bumping the thread in playing catch up. There's too much information in too many places!

[sweetliberty]

I know! I don't know when I've been in this much of a FReeping FRenzy! Good thing I had some time off. LOL!

[windchime]

"You know I thought people were kidding about throwing out the TV, until I saw one by a trash can with what was obviously a gunshot through the screen."

"ROTFL! What a great mental image. Probably a conservative, too."


I saw it during X42's administration. There were then, and are now, many times I have been tempted to do the same thing!

[windchime]

"That settles it then....Babs it is. LOL!"


Perfect!

[editor-surveyor]

I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. I pinged you only for information. The purpose was to draw attention to the new troll, so that all would be aware and avoid affording said troll any retorical opportunities. :o)

[Robert Drobot]

We must be sure to thank the boy who would be governor and the Florida legislature for greatly improving the situation.

NOT!!!

[ZAKJAN]

Michael Schiavo Continues Legal Battle, Terri Improving

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
October 23, 2003

Clearwater, FL (LifeNews.com) -- Michael Schiavo vows to continue fighting Terri's family -- this time over legislation passed that gave Governor Jeb Bush (R-FL) the authority to require doctors to reinsert the feeding tube that was allowing Terri Schiavo to live.

George Felos, the assisted suicide advocate who is Michael's lead attorney, will go to court on Monday to challenge the constitutionality of Bush's authority. Felos claims the decision should rest with Michael, who obtained a local judge's permission to end Terri's life.

Felos claims Michael is benefiting from an outpouring of public support, though rallies and letterwriting campaigns have been overwhelmingly in Terri's favor.

"He's a fighter, and he's feeling in some ways encouraged," Felos said.

Meanwhile, Terri Schiavo's parents and brother visited her for more than an hour at Woodside hospice.

"Terry is great, absolutely great. She has her color back. She's tired, but she just looks wonderful," said her father, Bob Schindler. "I think she's out of harm's way."

The night before, Terri appeared drawn and her eyes were rimmed with red, Schindler said, but she was beginning to look better Thursday.

Doctors reinserted the feeding tube at Morton Plant Hospital in Clearwater on Wednesday and then Terri was secretively transported to the hospice where she has been a patient for years, only minute before Terri's family was scheduled to visit her.

Pat Anderson, attorney for Terri's family, says the action was designed to weaken Terri before she was medically ready to be moved from the hospital.

[shhrubbery!]

Re Wolfson...

I posted these links last night on another thread about potential guardian ad litem, Dr. Jay Wolfson.

Wolfson was accused of assault on a woman colleague back in 1996.

I hasten to say that accusations and lawsuits of this nature are often frivolous; but this case seems to have progressed to the point where the woman accuser did get some $$$ award from Wolfson's insurer, State Farm:

Jay Wolfson involved in "scholars' fracas" (alleged assault on a woman)

court papers re Jay Wolfson

[shhrubbery!]

Correction: The incident involving Wolfson was in 1994, not 1996.

Also, on closer reading of the court papers, it appears that Wolfson's accuser did not get money from Wolfson's insurance company because the incident took place while Wolfson was acting in a business capacity, not in a personal capacity (and injuries incurred in a business situation were not covered by Wolfson's insurance policy).

[supercat]

I posted these links last night on another thread about potential guardian ad litem, Dr. Jay Wolfson.

I personally am not too worried about this guy, and wish that the Schindlers could expidite his appointment (if the Schindlers say they'll refuse anyone else named by Schiavo, what good would the five day wait do?)

The reasons I don't fear this guy:

• If the judge followed the law in naming him, that would mean he was selected through the guardian ad litem office. This office is independent of the trial courts.
• If the guardian ad litem office were corrupted by Greer/Felos/whomever, Greer would have appointed a (corrupt) guardian ad litem for Terri long ago.
• Unlike Schiavo and Felos, Jay Wolfson has a real job and would not want his reputation smeared by misconduct in this case.
• Unlike Schiavo, Felos, and Greer, Jay Wolfson does not need Terri to die to cover up any past misconduct.
• Although much of Wolfson's work will be covered by confidentiality laws, many key aspects will be public. If he acts against Terri's interest, it will be obvious to anyone who cares to look.

Anyone agree/disagree with my reasoning?

[shhrubbery!]

Your points would make sense if we were talking about reasonable people.

But we must always remind ourselves that those on the left are not reasonable(and from what I've read about Wolfson, he's on the left).

They can act egregiously and, most of the time, get away with it -- careers intact.

Viz. Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton, and all the academic phonies such as Doris Kearns Goodwin, Michael Bellesisles, Joseph Ellis.

[supercat]

But we must always remind ourselves that those on the left are not reasonable(and from what I've read about Wolfson, he's on the left).

I think it should be very clear to anyone who pays any real attention to this case that Michael, Felos, and Greer are very likely involved in a criminal conspiracy and need Terri to die to cover up evidence. No even-moderately-sane person, regardless of ideology, is going to want to join in such a conspiracy at this point of the game when it's likely the conspirators will get caught.

They can act egregiously and, most of the time, get away with it -- careers intact.

Yes, but this case has caught the attention both of the public and of a reasonably-conservative governor. If this guy were to join in the conspiracy to kill Terri, he would run a significant risk of getting prosecuted for murder. What benefit could he possibly hope to receive from such action that would justify the risk?

[Coral Snake]

Pollywog is asking all of us to post this on as many Terri threads as possible:

Coming to a CRIMINAL COURT near you!!!

Michael Schiavo and George Felos, READ IT AND WEEP!!
AFFIDAVIT
_________

STATE OF FLORIDA )
COUNTY OF PINELLAS )

BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CARLA
SAUER IYER, R.N., who being first duly sworn, deposes and says:

1. My name is Carla Sauer Iyer. I am over the age of eighteen and make
this statement of my own personal knowledge.

2. I am a registered nurse in the State of Florida, having been licensed
continuously in Florida from 1997 to the present. Prior to that I was a
Licensed Practical Nurse for about four years.

3. I was employed at Palm Garden of Largo Convalescent Center in
Largo, Florida from April 1995 to July 1996, while Terri Schiavo
was a patient there.

4. It was clear to me at Palm Gardens that all decisions regarding Terri
Schiavo were made by Michael Schiavo, with no allowance made for
any discussion, debate or normal professional judgment. My initial
training there consisted solely of the instruction "Do what Michael
Schiavo tells you or you will be terminated." This struck me as
extremely odd.

-1-

5. I was very disturbed by the decision making protocol, as no allowance
whatsoever was made for professional responsibility. The atmosphere
throughout the facility was dominated by Mr. Schiavo's intimidation.
Everyone there, with the exception of several people who seemed to be
close to Michael, was intimidated by him. Michael Schiavo always
had an overbearing attitude, yelling numerous times such things as
"This is my order and you're going to follow it." He is very large and
uses menacing body language, such as standing too close to you,
getting right in your face and practically shouting.

6. To the best of my recollection, rehabilitation had been ordered for
Terri, but I never saw any being done or had any reason at all to
believe that there was ever any rehab of Terri done at Palm Gardens
while I was there. I became concerned because Michael wanted
nothing done for Terri at all, no antibiotics, no tests, no range of
motion therapy, no stimulation, no nothing. Michael said again and
again that Terri should NOT get any rehab, that there should be no
range of motion whatsoever, or anything else. I and a CNA named
Roxy would give Terri range of motion anyway. One time I put a
wash cloth in Terri's hand to keep her fingers from curling together,

-2-

and Michael saw it and made me take it out, saying that was therapy.

7. Terri's medical condition was systematically distorted and
misrepresented by Michael. When I worked with her, she was alert
and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence,
saying such things as "mommy," and "help me." "Help me" was, in
fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds
of times. Terri would try to say the word "pain" when she was in
discomfort, but it came out more like "pay." She didn't say the "n"
sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort
by saying "pay" and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal
area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included
pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or
moving her legs around. She would let you know when she had a
bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper
and scooted in bed on her bottom.

8. When I came into her room and said "Hi, Terri", she would always
recognize my voice and her name, and would turn her head all the way
toward me, saying "Haaaiiiii" sort of, as she did. I recognized this as a
"hi", which is very close to what it sounded like, the whole sound

-3-

being only a second or two long. When I told her humrous stories
about my life or something I read in the paper, Terri would chuckle,
sometimes more a giggle or laugh. She would move her whole body,
upper and lower. Her legs would sometimes be off the bed, and need
to be repositioned. I made numerous entries into the nursing notes in
her chart, stating verbatim what she said and her various behaviors, but
by my next on-duty shift, the notes would be deleted from her chart.
Every time I made a positive entry about any responsiveness of Terri's,
someone would remove it after my shift ended. Michael always
demanded to see her chart as soon as he arrived, and would take it in
her room with him. I documented Terri's rehab potential well,
writing whole pages about Terri's responsiveness, but they would
always be deleted by the next time I saw her chart. The reason I wrote
so much was that everybody else seemed to be afraid to make positive
entries for fear of their jobs, but I felt very strongly that a nurses job
was to accurately record everything we see and hear that bears on a
patients condition and their family. I upheld the Nurses Practice Act,
and if it cost me my job, I was willing to accept that.
9. Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused

-4-

on Terri's death. Michael would say "When is she going to die?,"
"Has she died yet?" and "When is that bitch gonna die?" These
statements were common knowledge at Palm Gardens, as he would
make them casually in passing, without regard even for who he was
talking to, as long as it was a staff member. Other statements which I
recall him making include "Can't anything be done to accelerate her
death - won't she ever die?" When she wouldn't die, Michael would
be furious. Michael was also adamant that the family should not be
given information. He made numerous statements such as "Make sure
the parents aren't contacted." I recorded Michael's statements word
for word in Terri's chart, but these entries were also deleted after the
end of my shift. Standing orders were that the family wasn't to be
contacted, in fact, there was a large sign in the front of her chart that
said under no circumstances was her family to be called, call Michael
immediately, but I would call them, anyway, because I thought they
should know about their daughter.

10. Any time Terri would be sick, like with a UTI or fluid buildup in her
lungs, colds, or pneumonia, Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled
even, hoping that she would die. He would say something like,

-5-

"Hallelujah! You've made my day!" He would call me, as I was the
nurse supervisor on the floor, and ask for every little detail about her
temperature, blood pressure, etc., and would call back frequently
asking if she was dead yet. He would blurt out "I'm going to be rich!"
and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died,
which included a new car, a new boat, and going to Europe, among
other things.

11. When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the
door closed and locked while he was with Terri. He would typically
be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would be
trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold
sweats. It looked to me like Terri was having a hypoglycemic reaction,
so I'd check her blood sugar. The glucometer reading would be so low
it was below the range where it would register an actual number
reading. I would put dextrose in Terri's mouth to counteract it. This
happened about five times on my shift, as I recall. Normally Terri's
blood sugar levels were very stable due to the uniformity of her diet
through tube feeding. It is medically possible that Michael injected
Terri with Regular insulin, which is very fast acting, but I don't have

-6-

any way of knowing for sure.

12. The longer I was employed at Palm Gardens the more concerned I
became about patient care, both relating to Terri Schiavo, for the
reasons I've said, and other patients, too. There was an LPN named
Carolyn Adams, known as "Andy" Adams who was a particular
concern. An unusual number of patients seemed to die on her shift,
but she was completely unconcerned, making statements such as
"They are old - let them die." I couldn't believe her attitude or the fact
that it didn't seem to attract any attention. She made many comments
about Terri being a waste of money, that she should die. She said it
was costing Michael a lot of money to keep her alive, and that he
complained about it constantly (I heard him complain about it all the
time, too.) Both Michael and Adams said that she would be worth
more to him if she were dead. I ultimately called the police relative to
this situation, and was terminated the next day. Other reasons were
cited, but I was convinced it was because of my "rocking the boat."

13. Ms. Adams was one of the people who did not seem to be intimidated
by Michael. In fact, they seemed to be very close, and Adams would
do whatever Michael told her. Michael sometimes called Adams at

-7-

night and spoke at length. I was not able to hear the content of these
phone calls, but I knew it was him talking to her because she would
tell me afterward and relay orders from him.

14. I have contacted the Schindler family because I just couldn't stand by
and let Terri die without the truth being known.

FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT.


CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N.

The foregoing instrument was acknowledged before me this 29 day of August,
2003, by CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N., who produced her Florida's driver's license
as identification, and who did take an oath.

Notary Public

My commission expires

---

[shhrubbery!]

If this guy were to join in the conspiracy to kill Terri, he would run a significant risk of getting prosecuted for murder. What benefit could he possibly hope to receive from such action that would justify the risk?

You mean Wolfson. If the link posted above about his assaulting a female colleague is accurate, the Wolfson may be a hothead. I.e., not particularly reasonable.

Yes, this should not be an ideological issue, but sadly, it largely is. Have you not noticed the usual suspects of the LEFT lining up to demand Terri's death?

True, there are a couple of people on the right, such as Neal Boortz and lesser-light John Gambling (whom I never liked anyway) taking Schiavo's side. But they have shown themselves to be misinformed.

As for the public getting to know the details of the case: I don't see how that will necessarily help Terri. The public knew the details of Chappaquiddick, yet Teddy-boy is still re-elected time after time.

And remember Elian? And the brutal pictures of his seizure by immigration agents? Still the public was not persuaded to see the immorality of the Clinton administration in that case.