This is a matter of courtesy, this is a matter of decency and, more, this is necessary if we are to prevent Free Republic from descending into nothing more than a collection of guttersnipes.
Posted on 03/30/2016 11:52:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The April 5 Republican primary in Wisconsin is looking less like a toss-up between Donald Trump and Sen. Ted Cruz and more like a probable win for Cruz. This would be a fairly grave problem for Trump in his effort to reach 1,237 delegates ahead of the convention. Further, a new Wisconsin poll from a well-respected outfit shows horrific favorability ratings for Trump in the state among all voters, mirroring his recent national downturn. If he can’t reach enough delegates ahead of the convention, and his support shows signs of erosion in the final contests—all while his overall favorability rating dives from pretty terrible to comically toxic—it’s going to be that much harder for him to convince delegates to stick with him in Cleveland.
The just-released Marquette Law School poll for March finds Cruz at 40 percent in the state, with Trump at 30 percent and John Kasich at 21 percent. Trump’s 30 percent is actually stable from the February version of the poll … when there were three more candidates still in the race. Cruz’s support, meanwhile, has shot up 21 points in a month, while Kasich’s has increased 13. The once dearly held theory of the Trump ceiling—that his support would never exceed one-third of the primary electorate and thus would not grow even once the field had consolidated—has been shattered in some states. If this poll holds, though, the theory appears to apply to Wisconsin....
(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...
This was my original point of focus. I haven’t changed anything, I did not twist anything, my original post had absolutely nothing to do with you, and you are as insane as the following:
“All of this for a misguided infatuation with a reality television, beauty contestant entrepreneur, a prize fighting promoter, a titty bar owner, a bankrupt gambling casino magnate, a grifter of vulnerable students and nutrition minded suckers, a brutal landlord, a deceiver of customers, a bully, a misogynist, a serial liar, a mountebank and a man thoroughly unworthy of the highest office in the world.”
“I might’ve been able to defend myself if odawg had sent me notice of his subsequent comments concerning me after his first.”
I was responding, first, to your post, and then whoever he is jumped in and you would think I slapped his mother.
He obviously doesn’t think you are capable of defending yourself. He became distraught. Still is.
This is a matter of courtesy, this is a matter of decency and, more, this is necessary if we are to prevent Free Republic from descending into nothing more than a collection of guttersnipes.
“You have done this once to me and, even after I rebuked you...”
“rebuked” me?
As Paul Harvey use to say, I think you are overrunning your headlights. You rebuke me only in your exalted mind only.
I was defending myself to Mongrel. I am not interesting in defending you.
“guttersnipes”
Cite where I said anything to him, about you, that I did not say directly to you.
You do no credit to conservatism.
My apologies to you both.
You are unrepentant and obdurate and obviously a serial offender. You are a drive-by cheap shot artist. You are a moral coward.
You do no credit to conservatism.
I live in Louisiana. I am willing to drive quite a distance to meet you so we can find how who is the coward. Are you willing you son of a bitch?
This is what I always hated about you Nathan... you're refusal to take a stand on any issue. /s
What do you expect from Wisconsin...they talk funny.
Even Megan Kelly recognizes that Donald Trump is nothing more than a carnival barker selling snake oil to the masses!
He’s a worthless POS not worthy of the consideration of any thinking person regardless of party!
You forgot to add that he kicks puppies!/s
This poll again? Cruzlims have been beating off to it for days now despite it’s tiny sample size and outlier status.. Hardly news.
“Not only are you a moral coward but you are an illiterate. I did not call you a physical coward but a moral coward.”
Genius, did I mention anything at all about physical cowardice? Now you are making me laugh. But can you imagine a moral coward who is not also a physical coward?
I am a Southerner. Down here you call someone a coward and you can expect blood on the floor.
I should know.
LOL. You're no messenger.
A messenger doesn't have an agenda. A messenger simply carries a message. A messenger doesn't embellish and distort.
Thank you for confirming for every one who reads this precisely how the Trump swarm operates.
Thank you for disingenuously demonstrating how the Ted Cruz/GOPe smear machine operates.
You guys long ago exceeded any excesses that Donald Trump has been accused of, or is even capable of.
Nothing but 24/7/365 hatred, without conscience or intrinsic merit.
You seek to cast the mote from peoples' eyes while ignoring the beam in your own.
I've never seen a more arrogant, condescending, unprincipled group of slanted propagandists in my life than the coalition of Media/Left/GOPe/Cruz supporters who have banded together in the common cause of destroying an individual who loves his country and simply wants to help make it great again.
Like I said, you're no messenger, you're simply a deceiver with no decency.
Every sentence you type veritably drips with hysterical malevolence. Your malice is couched in lofty words, but underneath the phony veneer of objectivity is nothing but lies and spin.
Messenger? HAH!
I have written many sentences, perhaps you can find some examples of the deplorable " lies and spin."?
Please note you wrote in the conjunctive not in the disjunctive, "lies and spin," so let's see you produce some examples of lies which demonstrate that I am a "deceiver" without "decency". Let's hear those lies.
There is a difference between a lie and an opinion. An opinion is part of the give-and-take of political debate but a lie is a knowing misrepresentation of a material fact. Let's see you produce some knowing misrepresentations of material facts because I will not let you get away with posting an opinion and calling it a lie.
Your turn.
Always looked forward to your posts ... until recently when your TDS has become unbearable.
I think you have lived abroad too long, and no longer recognize how corrupt our political system has become, and the fact that only a real outsider has any chance at changing things.
You can’t reform a corrupt system by electing someone who is a member of that system. Electing another Harvard lawyer won’t change a damn thing. Especially one who is married to a NAU proponent and has the establishment backing him.
Just MNSHO.
Is there anyone in the United States up to and including the president of the United States before Trump declared his candidacy who would not pick up the telephone if Donald Trump called? Donald Trump has spent his entire life social climbing and ingratiating himself with the powerful. That is one of the ways he acquired his fortune.
Donald Trump is the consummate insider.
Indeed, Nathan, I did like the response you linked. Your opinions are clear, and persuasive. I don't agree on all, but... I do on many.
I don't have as negative an opinion of Trump as you do. I think he's a man who truly does love his country and has been trying to do good things for it. He's failed in many areas, but succeeded in others. Nevertheless, he has never shirked from the spotlight... (lol, now THERE's an understatement!)
I think it's pretty clear that DJT has been dreaming about being President for most of his adult life. Like 17+ others, he saw an opportunity in this cycle, and jumped on it. Before anyone else, Trump very clearly saw THE ISSUE that could carry him all the way: Illegal Immigration. He made this issue the centerpiece of his announcement, and returns to it every time he gets into trouble. Nine months later, he’s STILL the Republican front runner, and the ONLY candidate with a chance to win an outright majority of the votes. Like it or not, he IS the “winner”…. Almost. Our bizarre system for nomination might still save the day for the establishment.
Personally, I have always preferred Cruz and still do. But, I copied the quote from Michelala above for a reason: I think it’s correct. As a Cruz supporter, I must admit; he has NO CHANCE to win the nomination outright, with votes from the people. Perhaps Cruz has the political organizational skills to pull off a win in an open convention, but… I doubt it. I see it as FAR MORE likely that, we get a GOPe candidate like Ryan. In fact, I’d probably take an even money bet, right now, that Paul Ryan will be the R Party nominee. He won’t win the general (Since the Trump AND Cruz supporters will revolt). But, he’ll be ‘nice enough’ in the losing, that Republicans will be able to hold the House, and… hopefully, the Senate. This is the logic of the GOPe.
Honestly? I don’t know what I think. I WANT to believe that Trump is a smart man with pure motives, one who could be a strong leader in a fight against Socialism. He does have a relationship with the American people that has been developed over 30 years, and won’t be easily destroyed by the media. He does FIGHT, in a way no other R leader will. But, he also continues to do truly stupid, childish things like talking about his ‘junk’, attacking Heidi Cruz, or not simply apologizing to Michelle “Baby Face” Fields. I am concerned by the possibility that Trump would “lose it all’. That would be a disaster for this country, as you have correctly identified.
I waffle because, I don’t see a clear path forward. I don’t see a champion for conservatism worthy of the cause. I don’t see a country receptive to our message. I fear, we are like the drug addict who must hit rock bottom before seeing the hope of Jesus. Maybe, as a country, we deserve Bernie Sanders? Or maybe, we need to prop up our best fighter and try to carry him to the finish line. Of one thing I’m sure, Trump WANTS to win, and will FIGHT for it. We’ll see how the process plays out. I HATE being pessimistic, but I don’t see any way this ends well for conservatism, or America.
If not Trump, who?
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